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Thnx for all the info!

I don't think I'll re-buy my library to blu-ray. I have about 400 movies. But I do plan on buying some of the classics on blu-ray for better picture quality. Like 'The Shining,' 'The Godfather trilogy,' ect.

Ok, I'm using my PS3 but I plan on upgrading my blu-ray this weekend. Any recommendations on a player?

I'd hold off till December if you already have a PS3.

I'm sure with the economy, there will be some nice sales near the holidays.

Amazon previously had a special of 100$ off Sony Blu-Ray players when you bought 4 Blu-Ray movies (so you actually came +40$.

-Petey
 
Why do you need to upgrade the player if you have a PS3?

The PS3 player is one of the best reviewed models.
 
Why do you need to upgrade the player if you have a PS3?

The PS3 player is one of the best reviewed models.

At least 3 of the software updates I downloaded for the PS3 have improved the DVD playback quality.
 
At least 3 of the software updates I downloaded for the PS3 have improved the DVD playback quality.

Hey, I never thought of this. This could be a good option. Where can I get these software updates from?
 
Time Warner has already talked about bandwidth restrictions on my internet usage. I'm sure my cable provider and others will charge hefty premiums for the service. Part of why I think Blue Ray will be around for a while.

It's not like cable TV killed VHS, DVD did.

-Petey

Well all you need to do is not be afraid to try the competition. I have used Comcast and Qwest against each other so many times it is insane. The key is to have all your email web based, so you can switch providers at the drop of a dime without having a major PITA. You may be in a situation where your current provider is your only option. All I know is that if I received the warning letter on data limits, I would call them up and tell them to stick their business where the sun doesn't shine.
 
Hey, I never thought of this. This could be a good option. Where can I get these software updates from?

It's in the menus on the PS3 somewhere...
 
Well all you need to do is not be afraid to try the competition. I have used Comcast and Qwest against each other so many times it is insane. The key is to have all your email web based, so you can switch providers at the drop of a dime without having a major PITA. You may be in a situation where your current provider is your only option. All I know is that if I received the warning letter on data limits, I would call them up and tell them to stick their business where the sun doesn't shine.

The choices in NYC are pretty limited if you want a cable based system. Otherwise you have to change to a whole new system (Dish/DirectTV), but not all buildings will let you use the equipment. Cable providers really have you by the nads in NYC.

-Petey
 
My Monster cable was a part of my Sony Blu-Ray/TV package. Not all HDMI cables are the same though. It's all about how much information flows through the cable; a higher capacity = better quality, especially in the audio.

You are in a sense right, but the technology hasn't advanced that far to take advantage of those HDMI cables that have a higher bandwith.

Please for the love of God, don't pay more than $10 for an HDMI cable. Go to monoprice.com and save a lot of money.

I can't find the article right now that compared HDMI cables of all different types of quality. The cables were tested with diagnostic equipment and the cables varied in length from 3' to 100' and the equipment could not detect a difference between a $5 cable and a $300 Monster Cable. Don't believe the hype. Here's a little article from PCWorld to educate people on the basics of digital cables: PCWORLD

Blue Ray is already out dated. They are going to be streaming HD movies to your TV through various means which do not require physical media. Some companies like NetFlix, already are.

Blu-Ray is far from outdated. Digital distribution is a long ways off from giving consumers a true HD experience, that is Video + Audio. A bluray disc is 50GB of data. If you want to watch a movie of equal quality, you'll have to buffer it for a week before you'd get a stable streaming picture. The crap that Netflix streams is hard to watch on a 15" monitor, how the hell is that gonna look on my 50" plasma?

Blu-Ray is an amazing format. I do refuse to rebuy my old DVD collection on Bluray though. The studios have already gotten my money once, I won't give it to them again just for a new format. I do only buy new releases on Bluray now. The prices need to come down, but I only buy them from Amazon or Walmart if they have the discs for the same price in the store. As soon as I can get my new release blurays for $20, I'll be a happy camper.
 
BlazersBlood,

I did the math and they can actually stream blu ray quality audio and video without much problem.

My assumptions are 50G for a 2 hour movie.

50G / 2 = 25G per hour.

25G / 60 = .417G / minute

.417G / minute / 60 = .007G / second

7 Megabits.

My Time Warner does 15 Megabits with 20 burst.

This is without compression. They could degrade the quality slightly by compressing 4:1 and delivering near Blu Ray stream to people with 1.5MBit connections.

FWIW
 
BlazersBlood,

I did the math and they can actually stream blu ray quality audio and video without much problem.

My assumptions are 50G for a 2 hour movie.

50G / 2 = 25G per hour.

25G / 60 = .417G / minute

.417G / minute / 60 = .007G / second

7 Megabits.

My Time Warner does 15 Megabits with 20 burst.

This is without compression. They could degrade the quality slightly by compressing 4:1 and delivering near Blu Ray stream to people with 1.5MBit connections.

FWIW

Interesting numbers. Too bad I don't know what they mean! LOL.

I've got FiOS and I'm supposed to be able to get 15 Mb/s, but it isn't anywhere close to that consistently. I still don't believe that you can stream high quality video + audio to fill a big screen tv. Like I said, I've got FiOS & I've got trouble streaming live action with superior quality on my 17" laptop.

I've never seen anybody download 50 Gb in 2 hours. Even if you compensate and say you let it buffer for an hour, you will still have trouble watching a movie hiccup free.
 
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BlazersBlood,

I did the math and they can actually stream blu ray quality audio and video without much problem.

My assumptions are 50G for a 2 hour movie.

50G / 2 = 25G per hour.

25G / 60 = .417G / minute

.417G / minute / 60 = .007G / second

7 Megabits.

My Time Warner does 15 Megabits with 20 burst.

This is without compression. They could degrade the quality slightly by compressing 4:1 and delivering near Blu Ray stream to people with 1.5MBit connections.

FWIW

Those aren't 7 Megabits, those are 7 Megabytes in your calculation. But the whole 50 gb aren't used for the movie alone, so it's probably more interesting to look at only the movie data.

There are already "copies" of movies with 1080p resolution encoded with h.264 out there, those are normally around 8-12gb. Which leads to ~1.5-2 Megabyte per second or 12-16 mbit/s (assuming 90 min of film).
 
I think to be called "HDMI", the cables have to meet very stringent specs. It's not like the differing levels of shielding in coax cable, it's basically just $90 for the Monster label.

Not true.

Edit- but BlazersBlood's post makes me take a step back.
 
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You are in a sense right, but the technology hasn't advanced that far to take advantage of those HDMI cables that have a higher bandwith.

Please for the love of God, don't pay more than $10 for an HDMI cable. Go to monoprice.com and save a lot of money.

I can't find the article right now that compared HDMI cables of all different types of quality. The cables were tested with diagnostic equipment and the cables varied in length from 3' to 100' and the equipment could not detect a difference between a $5 cable and a $300 Monster Cable. Don't believe the hype. Here's a little article from PCWorld to educate people on the basics of digital cables: PCWORLD



Blu-Ray is far from outdated. Digital distribution is a long ways off from giving consumers a true HD experience, that is Video + Audio. A bluray disc is 50GB of data. If you want to watch a movie of equal quality, you'll have to buffer it for a week before you'd get a stable streaming picture. The crap that Netflix streams is hard to watch on a 15" monitor, how the hell is that gonna look on my 50" plasma?

Blu-Ray is an amazing format. I do refuse to rebuy my old DVD collection on Bluray though. The studios have already gotten my money once, I won't give it to them again just for a new format. I do only buy new releases on Bluray now. The prices need to come down, but I only buy them from Amazon or Walmart if they have the discs for the same price in the store. As soon as I can get my new release blurays for $20, I'll be a happy camper.


Thanks for the information. I'm glad I didn't spend a dime on either of my HDMI cables. Question though. I have the 'generic' HDMI from my HD receiver to my LCD TV, and I have the Monster HDMI from my Blu-Ray to my TV. If there is no difference, this should not matter, right?
 
Those aren't 7 Megabits, those are 7 Megabytes in your calculation. But the whole 50 gb aren't used for the movie alone, so it's probably more interesting to look at only the movie data.

There are already "copies" of movies with 1080p resolution encoded with h.264 out there, those are normally around 8-12gb. Which leads to ~1.5-2 Megabyte per second or 12-16 mbit/s (assuming 90 min of film).

Right. Multiply by ~10 to get megabits (start/stop bits, etc.)
 
Thanks for the information. I'm glad I didn't spend a dime on either of my HDMI cables. Question though. I have the 'generic' HDMI from my HD receiver to my LCD TV, and I have the Monster HDMI from my Blu-Ray to my TV. If there is no difference, this should not matter, right?

No difference.

-Petey
 

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