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I grew up with a kid who, by the time we were in the 3rd grade, we all knew he was gay.
 
julius said:
I grew up with a kid who, by the time we were in the 3rd grade, we all knew he was gay.
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....and he's now your avatar...right?
 
RR7 said:
so before kissing a girl, or having sex, if you're a male, you're not a heterosexual, and acting on your feelings is what makes you heterosexual? That makes no sense.
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I think that the argument would be that all animals are driven by the need to procreate. I don't have an opinion one way or the other, though, on what the cause is for deviations from the norm.
 
I don't think it's an either-or proposition.
I think there's a sliding scale of strength of sexual preference based on genetics.
I think there's also significant environmental impact.
I think that one person whose genetic makeup puts them near the middle in the preference spectrum could end up leaning toward hetero or homo sexuality based on various factors in his/her development.
I think that others whose genetic makeups are more toward one end of the spectrum are less susceptible to environmental influence.
I think that despite genetic & environmental influences, people can always make a choice.
 
I personally dont care if someone is born gay or chooses to be gay. If they are attracted to the same sex and it makes them happy, then go for it. It's not hurting me or my family any.

Funny song from a band I used to listen to named Sloppy Seconds.
I love lesbians more than anyone
So why don't lesbians love me?
I want lesbians, each and every one
So why don't lesbians want me?
It turns me on the way
They all wear sexy lingerie
And string bikinis everywhere they go
But they don't let me watch
As they explore each other's crotch
The way they do on video
Oh, I love lesbians more than anyone
So why don't lesbians love me?
And I want lesbians, each and every one
So why don't lesbians want me?
It's strange that anyone
Would wonder why a lesbian
Will always be a great athlete
There ain't no mystery
At least as far as I can see
'Cause what they are is what they eat
Yeah, I love lesbians more than anyone
So why don't lesbians love me?
Some of them are vampires
And some of them teach gym
Some are topless dancers
But all of them are slim
Some are into leather
And some write poetry
They make love together
Just to fuel my fantasy
'Cause I love lesbians more than anyone
So why don't lesbians
Why don't lesbians
Why don't lesbians love me?
Why don't lesbians love me?
Why don't lesbians love me?
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i really dont understand why people care what other people do if they arent harming anyone...

think of it like this

unicorns dont care if you think they exist any more than you care if unicorns think that YOU exist

gay people dont care that you think they are going to hell any more than YOU care if they think YOU are going to hell
 
3RA1N1AC said:
i really dont understand why people care what other people do if they arent harming anyone...

think of it like this

unicorns dont care if you think they exist any more than you care if unicorns think that YOU exist

gay people dont care that you think they are going to hell any more than YOU care if they think YOU are going to hell
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It seems like a lot of it comes down to, if it is just a choice they make, then it's fair game to discriminate against them, because they bring it on themselves. So no equal rights if you are choosing. But if they are born that way, it's protectable, theoretically, against discrimination, at least legally. Like with marriage, etc.
 
PapaG said:
Totally!

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RR7 said:
It seems like a lot of it comes down to, if it is just a choice they make, then it's fair game to discriminate against them, because they bring it on themselves. So no equal rights if you are choosing. But if they are born that way, it's protectable, theoretically, against discrimination, at least legally. Like with marriage, etc.
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why would it be fair game to discriminate? who gives a shit what kind of junk they like in their mouth?

the people who are sooo against it/make the biggest deal about it, are often closeted gay and overcompensating for the fact they they have these feelings
 
3RA1N1AC said:
unicorns dont care if you think they exist any more than you care if unicorns think that YOU exist
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Unicorns are born gay, though. It's a well-documented mythical fact.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I don't think it's an either-or proposition.
I think there's a sliding scale of strength of sexual preference based on genetics.
I think there's also significant environmental impact.
I think that one person whose genetic makeup puts them near the middle in the preference spectrum could end up leaning toward hetero or homo sexuality based on various factors in his/her development.
I think that others whose genetic makeups are more toward one end of the spectrum are less susceptible to environmental influence.
I think that despite genetic & environmental influences, people can always make a choice.
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Does this contribute to global warming? Should we call in Al Gore?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
why would it be fair game to discriminate? who gives a shit what kind of junk they like in their mouth?

the people who are sooo against it/make the biggest deal about it, are often closeted gay and overcompensating for the fact they they have these feelings
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I don't mean it on a personal level. But, in the way of gay marriage, people for gay marriage will say they deserve equal treatment, and that sexuality should be a protected class. But people opposed will say they are making that choice, so it doesn't afford the same protections as, say, race does, since people don't choose their race.
 
Legit. People are attracted to who they are attracted to. For example, guys are referred to as "ass men" breast men" legs men". There is a reason for that. I prefer brunettes with large breasts and taller than 5'6", while others might prefer short blondes with small breasts (oh who am I kidding? No one prefers small breasts) Anyway, I believe it is the same for people who are attracted to the same sex. While I don't understand how a man can look at another man's hairy ass and get aroused, I believe it's in their genetic make up that it does arouse them.
 
RR7 said:
It seems like a lot of it comes down to, if it is just a choice they make, then it's fair game to discriminate against them, because they bring it on themselves.
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Um, in what sense do they "bring it on themselves"? Are they choosing to discriminate against themselves?

Let's apply that reasoning to, I don't know, religion. Nobody is GENETICALLY Christian, so clearly they CHOOSE to be Christian, so it's fair game to discriminate against them, because they bring it on themselves.
 
I don't feel that way at all, just saying that those opposed look at it as a not protected class because they think it is a choice, and not that they are born that way.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Um, in what sense do they "bring it on themselves"? Are they choosing to discriminate against themselves?

Let's apply that reasoning to, I don't know, religion. Nobody is GENETICALLY Christian, so clearly they CHOOSE to be Christian, so it's fair game to discriminate against them, because they bring it on themselves.
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I think Smurfs are gay. I mean come on man! They only have one female and no one is even interested? Then you got that "Vanity" guy that's all about putting flowers on his hat! And papa smurf doesn't even have a shirt on. What gives?
 
Perhaps the poster should learn about
1) natural selection, what it is and isn't
2) the thousands, literally, of research articles on homosexuality/bixexuality/transgender in the animal world
3) the theories on inheritance of sexual orientation and how natural selection worked on the genetic tendency to homosexuality
4) the hundreds of thousands of gay men and lesbians who are parents, since you seem to think being gay and procreating are mutually exclusive

Honestly, I am also tired of people with no information saying they KNOW about something they don't know about. Whether being gay or cosmology or global warming or whatever. I mean, it isn't that hard to visit a library and learn a few things. Maybe I should be more charitable. But guess what? Homophobia is NOT genetic. So maybe someone should finally learn better.

Tell me, genius, did you, at some point, sit down and say, hmmm, am I going to decide to be gay or decide to be straight? Did you thoughtfully consider the relative advantages of being gay and being straight? Did you check out both and then decide what you liked better? Or did you know you were attracted to girls/women before you even lost your virginity, if you have? So why is it so fucking impossible to believe that LGBT people ALSO know from Day 1 who we are?
 
crandc said:
Perhaps the poster should learn about
1) natural selection, what it is and isn't
2) the thousands, literally, of research articles on homosexuality/bixexuality/transgender in the animal world
3) the theories on inheritance of sexual orientation and how natural selection worked on the genetic tendency to homosexuality
4) the hundreds of thousands of gay men and lesbians who are parents, since you seem to think being gay and procreating are mutually exclusive

Honestly, I am also tired of people with no information saying they KNOW about something they don't know about. Whether being gay or cosmology or global warming or whatever. I mean, it isn't that hard to visit a library and learn a few things. Maybe I should be more charitable. But guess what? Homophobia is NOT genetic. So maybe someone should finally learn better.

Tell me, genius, did you, at some point, sit down and say, hmmm, am I going to decide to be gay or decide to be straight? Did you thoughtfully consider the relative advantages of being gay and being straight? Did you check out both and then decide what you liked better? Or did you know you were attracted to girls/women before you even lost your virginity, if you have? So why is it so fucking impossible to believe that LGBT people ALSO know from Day 1 who we are?
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I got a question. If this does have something to do with evolution... What if we all end up being gay? Does our genome survive?
 
crandc said:
Perhaps the poster should learn about
1) natural selection, what it is and isn't
2) the thousands, literally, of research articles on homosexuality/bixexuality/transgender in the animal world
3) the theories on inheritance of sexual orientation and how natural selection worked on the genetic tendency to homosexuality
4) the hundreds of thousands of gay men and lesbians who are parents, since you seem to think being gay and procreating are mutually exclusive

Honestly, I am also tired of people with no information saying they KNOW about something they don't know about. Whether being gay or cosmology or global warming or whatever. I mean, it isn't that hard to visit a library and learn a few things. Maybe I should be more charitable. But guess what? Homophobia is NOT genetic. So maybe someone should finally learn better.

Tell me, genius, did you, at some point, sit down and say, hmmm, am I going to decide to be gay or decide to be straight? Did you thoughtfully consider the relative advantages of being gay and being straight? Did you check out both and then decide what you liked better? Or did you know you were attracted to girls/women before you even lost your virginity, if you have? So why is it so fucking impossible to believe that LGBT people ALSO know from Day 1 who we are?
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I got a question. If this does have something to do with evolution... What if we all end up being gay? Does our genome survive?
 
magnifier661 said:
I got a question. If this does have something to do with evolution... What if we all end up being gay? Does our genome survive?
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Yes, haven't you ever seen movies/tv shows where the lesbian couple ask their guy friend to impregnate them?
 
crandc said:
Perhaps the poster should learn about
1) natural selection, what it is and isn't
2) the thousands, literally, of research articles on homosexuality/bixexuality/transgender in the animal world
3) the theories on inheritance of sexual orientation and how natural selection worked on the genetic tendency to homosexuality
4) the hundreds of thousands of gay men and lesbians who are parents, since you seem to think being gay and procreating are mutually exclusive

Honestly, I am also tired of people with no information saying they KNOW about something they don't know about. Whether being gay or cosmology or global warming or whatever. I mean, it isn't that hard to visit a library and learn a few things. Maybe I should be more charitable. But guess what? Homophobia is NOT genetic. So maybe someone should finally learn better.

Tell me, genius, did you, at some point, sit down and say, hmmm, am I going to decide to be gay or decide to be straight? Did you thoughtfully consider the relative advantages of being gay and being straight? Did you check out both and then decide what you liked better? Or did you know you were attracted to girls/women before you even lost your virginity, if you have? So why is it so fucking impossible to believe that LGBT people ALSO know from Day 1 who we are?
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I have a question about your opinion slash rant... What does LGBT stand for?
 
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