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Waiting to get back to Portland for an MRI......

Either this is really nothing - or the Blazers are raising idiocy to an art form. There is no middle ground here. If Roy aggravates the injury against the Spurs, somebody's ass needs to be in the unemployment line the next day.

This is such obvious practice. Baffling why our training staff is so blind to see it.

If they suspect this injury is something that needs to be diagnosed by an MRI, why wait? The conclusion I came up with was that they don't think it's very serious. Don't really trust their judgment though.
 
It could be like rolling an ankle. Might hurt the day you do it, but the next day it might not. Ice it pop and anti-inflammatory and see how it feels. if it still hurts after then then consider the MRI.
 
This is such obvious practice. Baffling why our training staff is so blind to see it.

If they suspect this injury is something that needs to be diagnosed by an MRI, why wait? The conclusion I came up with was that they don't think it's very serious. Don't really trust their judgment though.
why not? In your expert opinion, which injury should their medical staff have been able to foresee?

the :ohno: around here is ridiculous. Sometimes shit just happens and no one is the bad guy.

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Their history has been dubious. Letting Webster return too early, letting Rudy participate in Eurobasket when he was battling a chronic injury, waiting to operate on Nic's shoulder until October, when Nic himself thought that he needed surgery since August.

It's not about "foreseeing" injuries as much as it is about actively treating and preventing them.
 
If Roy is lost for a significant amount of time, Portland's playoff chances will take a hit.

That's my analysis.
 
Seriously? lol... god damn.. this is borderline ridiculous.
 
Their history has been dubious. Letting Webster return too early, letting Rudy participate in Eurobasket when he was battling a chronic injury, waiting to operate on Nic's shoulder until October, when Nic himself thought that he needed surgery since August.

It's not about "foreseeing" injuries as much as it is about actively treating and preventing them.
they let Webster return too early in your expert medical opinion or are you talking out your ass? Please fill me in on your medical background related to these matters. I'd also be curious to know how they could have forced Rudy not to play in Eurobasket

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why not? In your expert opinion, which injury should their medical staff have been able to foresee?

the :ohno: around here is ridiculous. Sometimes shit just happens and no one is the bad guy.

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This isn't about prediciting a future injury. They already know he is hurt, they are saying they are concerned enough to want an MRI, but they are going to let him play in another game before they do the test?

It doesn't take a medical professional to see the risk involved. This isn't game 7 of the play-offs. If he really needs the MRI, why wait? :confused:
 
they let Webster return too early in your expert medical opinion or are you talking out your ass?

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There is no need to get so hot. Nothing I have said is completely out of left field.

Webster's injury occurred as a result of him re-aggravating his initial stress fracture. He played five minutes before going down again. Since stress fractures occur degeneratively, rather than by a one time freak instance, it's obvious to deduce that he came back way too early. Even if the imaging analysis revealed that everything looked fine structurally, the staff should have given him time to strengthen the muscles surrounding his mended fracture.

I'd also be curious to know how they could have forced Rudy not to play in Eurobasket

Uh, they could have cited his injury and kept him out?? I really don't know what you want me to say here.

He had been complaining about back pains since the Ariza incident.

It doesn't take a medical professional to see the risk involved.
Exactly.
 
This isn't about prediciting a future injury. They already know he is hurt, they are saying they are concerned enough to want an MRI, but they are going to let him play in another game before they do the test?

It doesn't take a medical professional to see the risk involved. This isn't game 7 of the play-offs. If he really needs the MRI, why wait? :confused:
good grief get a grip... you know you don't know shit so why assume the worst? Guys don't fall into NBA team doctor positions. They are highly trained and experienced experts who work with these players year round. If Brandon is to play, it only makes sense that their collection of Docs many years of training/experience leads them to believe that further damage really isn't at risk. I'm not a Doc or even aware of what sort of problem he's having with the joint, but I am aware that the shoulder isn't weight bearing. If it's thought to be just a bruise (or something equally minor) and they just want to do their due diligence confirming that with an MRI back in Portland, why should that make me question their judgment? Do you know more then me on this? If you do please share. In the meantime it seems unfathomable to think that they'd allow the face of the franchise to play if he was risking additional damage. I'm sure further analysis will be done tomorrow and won't be surprised if he's a late scratch, but the chicken little act to every bit of bad news is really tired.

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There is no need to get so hot. Nothing I have said is completely out of left field.

Webster's injury occurred as a result of him re-aggravating his initial stress fracture. He played five minutes before going down again. Since stress fractures occur degeneratively, rather than by a one time freak instance, it's obvious to deduce that he came back way too early. Even if the imaging analysis revealed that everything looked fine structurally, the staff should have given him time to strengthen the muscles surrounding his mended fracture.
I'm no more hot then you. I am tired of posters playing pretend medical expert though. Which opinion to trust on an injured player's time table... a collection of medical experts who've been overseeing a player's recovery or some internet posters with no specific knowledge of the injury, no contact with the player, and who don't know jack shit about this sort of thing :dunno:
Uh, they could have cited his injury and kept him out?? I really don't know what you want me to say here.
playing international ball isn't Portland's call, it's Rudy's. I'm sure every pro club would rather their guys under contract never played internationally.

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The Spurs encouraged Parker from sitting out in a few games in the tournament. The Bulls didn't allow Noah from playing in games outside of the practice, exhibition ones.

Probably the biggest news surrounding the mini-tourney---France's difficulty dealing with NBA front offices. After some haggling, Tony Parker has been ruled out of the first game on Wednesday vs Italy. Tony was initially going to play with a mild ankle sprain, but the Spurs were not taking any chances (probably hyper-vigilant after Manu's Olympic injury) and scratched Tony. Supposedly, Parker & France are a little miffed.

France can't be too pleased with the Bulls management, either. Joakim Noah was allowed to participate in some friendly games & training camp, but Bulls' pulled the plug on Noah's involvement with Team France for the rest of the summer. France could really use both NBAers, especially vs. Italy, and these decisions by two NBA front offices could cost France a berth in next year's World Championship.

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2009/08/france-italy-begin-quest-for-eurobasket.html

I'm sure something similar could have been done with Rudy (and Batum, for that matter).
 
Is this all just a bad dream? I keep hoping I'm going to wake up and find that the Blazers are on a 12-game winning streak and Oden is playing like an all-star.
 
Do you know more then me on this? If you do please share. In the meantime it seems unfathomable to think that they'd allow the face of the franchise to play if he was risking additional damage.

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Exactly my point. Why even take the risk? I know the team is short-handed, and there is pressure for everyone to suck it up (eg LMA's sore ankle), but I just don't see the point.

As for what I know - not much. I popped my shoulder out in high-school football practice, and was told to keep it in a sling for a couple of days. Once the ache eased up, I could go back to normal activity - no worries.

Since turning 40, I have had the shoulder scoped, gone through PT, and had regular cortisone shots. Most days, I still can't raise that arm above my shoulder. How much of that is genetic predisposition to arthritis, and how much was the Dr being a doofus - I can't say. :dunno:

Granted, Roy is not 16. His body isn't still growing, so maybe the issues are different.
 
Tonight might be a game for Nate to pull a Greg Popovich and sit Brandon & Lamarcus. We've already won 2 games on this brutal 4 game trip so we're playing with "house money" (so to speak) Roy leads the NBA in minutes, and he & LA are both averaging over 40 minutes/game in December.

Last night's win was great, and normally I'd say we have a better chance of beating SA than Dallas on the road. But with Joel out, it changes everything. Fortunately Dallas doesn't have a low post scorer, and that allowed us to stay in the game. But tonight? Duncan is going to control the paint on both sides of the floor. You can't roll Juwan Howard out there and expect him to contain TD. And that means LA will have to guard him more often than not. The guy is already playing on a sprained ankle and a bruised knee, and he played 45 minutes last night. I realize that sitting LA & Brandon leaves us with 7 available bodies (including Pendegraph) Start Cunningham and Tolliver and let them play 30-40 minutes. You never know, they still might make it a game. Remember the SA @ Denver game last season (link below) where Pop sat TD, Parker, Finley? Manu was already hurt . . . their 2 leading scorers for that game were Mason (11 PPG) & Bonner (8 PPG) and they kept it close somehow.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=290203007
 
yah i think i hate more mavs players then any other team in the nba.

dirk always irritated me.

jj is the new earl boykins

howard is a blazer killer.
 
yah i think i hate more mavs players then any other team in the nba.

dirk always irritated me.

jj is the new earl boykins

howard is a blazer killer.

The only team I hate worse than Dallas is the Lakers. Mark Cuban makes me want to puke.
 
yah i think i hate more mavs players then any other team in the nba.

dirk always irritated me.

jj is the new earl boykins

howard is a blazer killer.

Wow, even more then Blazer players?
 
I say we rest Roy and get him taken care of, in fact let's be waaaay overly cautious. Maybe keep him out the rest of the year. Call it tanking if you want, but honestly, I don't want any of our legit players playing anymore this year. I'm seriously worried they'll also suffer serious injuries, maybe career-ending. It's clear a higher power is against us this year, so I say we quit trying to tempt fate and spare the rest of the roster a season-long rehab as well. I don't want them to quit, but we need to realize it's just going to keep happening.

We already have 18 wins, more than the Nets will get all year, but if we field the entire roster of the Idaho Stampede, maybe we'll end up with a great lottery pick, which is better than dwelling in mediocrity the rest of the season and probably barely missing the playoffs. Of course, once all the Idaho Stampede are injured, we'll have to figure a plan Z, but I'm sure we'll think of something. Maybe the WNBA. Maybe hold a tryout for Blazer fans. This could be the break some of us have been waiting for.
 
Exactly my point. Why even take the risk? I know the team is short-handed, and there is pressure for everyone to suck it up (eg LMA's sore ankle), but I just don't see the point.
I talked to my doctor father this morning describing the symptoms that have been relayed. He said it was probably just a contusion and the nerves were affected by swelling. If so, he wouldn't be risking injury any more then he always does when he plays. Pop is a Urologist and hasn't spent a moment with BR so thats just his guess at the situation, but it's at least it's somewhat informed insight into whats what here
As for what I know - not much. I popped my shoulder out in high-school football practice, and was told to keep it in a sling for a couple of days. Once the ache eased up, I could go back to normal activity - no worries.

Since turning 40, I have had the shoulder scoped, gone through PT, and had regular cortisone shots. Most days, I still can't raise that arm above my shoulder. How much of that is genetic predisposition to arthritis, and how much was the Dr being a doofus - I can't say. :dunno:

Granted, Roy is not 16. His body isn't still growing, so maybe the issues are different.
getting old sucks. I'd guess that like most former pro athletes Brandon will eventually ache a lot. But today he's young and being judged by the experts as good to go so hopefully everything works out.

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I say we rest Roy and get him taken care of, in fact let's be waaaay overly cautious. Maybe keep him out the rest of the year. Call it tanking if you want, but honestly, I don't want any of our legit players playing anymore this year. I'm seriously worried they'll also suffer serious injuries, maybe career-ending. It's clear a higher power is against us this year, so I say we quit trying to tempt fate and spare the rest of the roster a season-long rehab as well. I don't want them to quit, but we need to realize it's just going to keep happening.

We already have 18 wins, more than the Nets will get all year, but if we field the entire roster of the Idaho Stampede, maybe we'll end up with a great lottery pick, which is better than dwelling in mediocrity the rest of the season and probably barely missing the playoffs. Of course, once all the Idaho Stampede are injured, we'll have to figure a plan Z, but I'm sure we'll think of something. Maybe the WNBA. Maybe hold a tryout for Blazer fans. This could be the break some of us have been waiting for.
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exactly

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I say we rest Roy and get him taken care of, in fact let's be waaaay overly cautious. Maybe keep him out the rest of the year. Call it tanking if you want, but honestly, I don't want any of our legit players playing anymore this year. I'm seriously worried they'll also suffer serious injuries, maybe career-ending. It's clear a higher power is against us this year, so I say we quit trying to tempt fate and spare the rest of the roster a season-long rehab as well. I don't want them to quit, but we need to realize it's just going to keep happening.

We already have 18 wins, more than the Nets will get all year, but if we field the entire roster of the Idaho Stampede, maybe we'll end up with a great lottery pick, which is better than dwelling in mediocrity the rest of the season and probably barely missing the playoffs. Of course, once all the Idaho Stampede are injured, we'll have to figure a plan Z, but I'm sure we'll think of something. Maybe the WNBA. Maybe hold a tryout for Blazer fans. This could be the break some of us have been waiting for.

I like the cut of your jib. :cheers:
 
I say we rest Roy and get him taken care of, in fact let's be waaaay overly cautious. Maybe keep him out the rest of the year. Call it tanking if you want, but honestly, I don't want any of our legit players playing anymore this year. I'm seriously worried they'll also suffer serious injuries, maybe career-ending. It's clear a higher power is against us this year, so I say we quit trying to tempt fate and spare the rest of the roster a season-long rehab as well. I don't want them to quit, but we need to realize it's just going to keep happening.

We already have 18 wins, more than the Nets will get all year, but if we field the entire roster of the Idaho Stampede, maybe we'll end up with a great lottery pick, which is better than dwelling in mediocrity the rest of the season and probably barely missing the playoffs. Of course, once all the Idaho Stampede are injured, we'll have to figure a plan Z, but I'm sure we'll think of something. Maybe the WNBA. Maybe hold a tryout for Blazer fans. This could be the break some of us have been waiting for.


See, this is the kind of creative thinking the Blazer front office so sorely lacks! :pimp:
 
If Portland is going to tank for a reasonable chance at John Wall, they need to let it leak that one of their players (maybe Steve Blake) was academically ineligible due to having someone else take a test for him, so that the league will take away Blazers wins that are already in the books. We need some way to catch up to teams like New Jersey in losses.
 
It's my understanding that he's going to try to play tonight, with an MRI in Portland tomorrow.
 
It's my understanding that he's going to try to play tonight, with an MRI in Portland tomorrow.

Yikes. Initially I want to say 'cool, he is playing' but with our medical staff, I am worried he is going to get hurt tonight.

Oh dear lord. Now I feel like I should delete that, I don't want to Nik Brandon.
 

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