Bread traded to Kings

[Messiah717]

Trades don’t matter when you have a clueless GM who has no plan. It doesn’t matter who they bring in it to coach. They’re doomed because this front office is absolutely miserable.

 

[kreidertime]

I’ve never seen the kid play like 99% the morons saying the return sucked. But based on scouting reports it seems like he’s got high upside. It’s not a retool. It’s going to be a total rebuild and when you totally rebuild, you need to suck very badly to get super high picks that even our moron scouts can’t fuck up. Lafreniere and Kakko they managed to fuck up, but everybody had them rated that high.

 

[kreidertime]

I’m just as concerned about firing our scouts as I am Drury they all need to go.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

It wont take long before this trade can be accurately graded or evaluated. Obviously the hope is that LA goes on a run, makes the playoffs and wins a couple rounds but the chances of that are basically non-existent as they aren't in playoff position at the moment. IF they make they playoffs they will likely need to beat two out of Vegas, Edmonton and Colorado. It's not going to happen.
Can you find a talented NHL caliber player in the 3rd round, obviously yes but the chances of that player being an impactful or difference-making player are slim.
It really comes down to Greentree and his transition into the NHL. He'll certainly get a handful of games at the end of the season and then he'll be thrown to the proverbial wolves at the start of next season...which by all indications is going to be another slog as the team continues to shed it's valuable players. So, good luck developing him into a confident and competent NHLer!
What a mess.

 

[JTM]

Trades don’t matter when you have a clueless GM who has no plan. It doesn’t matter who they bring in it to coach. They’re doomed because this front office is absolutely miserable.

This is the point, it doesn't matter. I know we cannot just fold up our tents and go cry in the corner, but the truthful sad reality is the Rangers are horrific and have no future at all. Drury has destroyed everything here. He has made so many terrible trades, I cannot even count anymore. He has recycled through coaches like candy. He is so bad at his job, it an embarrassment, and VERY par for the course with Dolan, that Drury still has a job. He should have been fired after last season.

Also yeah, we had zero leverage with Panarin, but again Drury has created a toxic environment here. Players are outwardly saying F you to the Rangers. Truth be told, only 2-years with an $11M cap hit isn't bad (especially when you see all the top UFA's have re-signed so the UFA field is empty this summer - Panarin would have been by far the # 1 player available), the Rangers maybe should have brought Panarin back for that, but from everything I read he wouldn't have signed that deal to stay here, he was done with the Rangers/Drury. On the way out Panarin had one more F you to Drury, send me to LA or nothing, thus limiting our return. With all his shenanigans and lack of communication and respect to multiple players, they are done with this clown Drury, and by extension the Rangers. You can trade the players he did, but do it with communication and respect, Drury did none of it.

This whole package of everything is why I say Drury has absolutely destroyed the organization and we have no future at all. This is the result of putting a guy in roles where he is in over his head and not qualified to execute, then it gets compounded by Dolan's refusal to fire the guy. It really is terrible.

 

[JTM]

It wont take long before this trade can be accurately graded or evaluated. Obviously the hope is that LA goes on a run, makes the playoffs and wins a couple rounds but the chances of that are basically non-existent as they aren't in playoff position at the moment. IF they make they playoffs they will likely need to beat two out of Vegas, Edmonton and Colorado. It's not going to happen.
Can you find a talented NHL caliber player in the 3rd round, obviously yes but the chances of that player being an impactful or difference-making player are slim.
It really comes down to Greentree and his transition into the NHL. He'll certainly get a handful of games at the end of the season and then he'll be thrown to the proverbial wolves at the start of next season...which by all indications is going to be another slog as the team continues to shed it's valuable players. So, good luck developing him into a confident and competent NHLer!
What a mess.

In order for the 2026 third round pick to become a 2026 second round pick, the Kings need to win one round. It is at best questionable they'll even make the playoffs, but if they somehow do, they'll have to play Colorado, Vegas, or Edmonton most likely, so they'll lose round one anyway, which means the 2026 pick stays a third rounder AND we do not get the 2028 fourth rounder (the Kings need to win two playoff rounds for us to get this pick).

Bottom line is the trade will be Panarin FOR Greentree and a 2026 third round pick (the better of LA's or DAL's third round pick).

A third-round pick and a 3rd line wing for Panarin. Another wonderful trade by Drury, which was forced by Panarin saying F you Chris.

Mark it down now, the only other moves will be an underwhelming return for Trocheck and Schneider, and maybe Drury will give Lafreniere away for pennies on the dollar as well (although he may hang onto him). No one of any consequence will go, Zibanejad, Fox, Miller etc. all no shot to get traded because Drury burned so many bridges the players are all like F you, I ain't going nowhere Chris!!!

 

[kreidertime]

Morash on WFAN is a moron. Greentree can’t skate in his opinion, which is bullshit. He had to work on the skating and he made tremendous strides from all scouts.

 

[kreidertime]

CHL notebook: Kings prospect Greentree among top scorers | NHL.com

Windsor forward ranks 2nd in OHL in points, says 'very possible' to be in NHL next season

www.nhl.com

Why L.A. Kings’ Liam Greentree is a top prospect: ‘He brings so much to the table’

The No. 26 pick in the 2024 draft took a big step last season, ranking among the highest scorers in the OHL and captaining a playoff team.

www.nytimes.com

 

[kreidertime]

Ask Casey Torres about coaching Liam Greentree, and he answers quickly.

“I’m glad to go into battle with him,” Torres said a little more than a year ago, in the simplest terms he could.

At the time, Torres was the Windsor Spitfires’ coach and Greentree was preparing for the 2024 NHL Draft.

That January, Torres had named Greentree his captain, a rare honor for a draft-eligible player, just a couple of weeks after his 18th birthday. Greentree went on to lead the Spitfires in goals (36), assists (54) and points (90). The 36 goals and 90 points — which came on a young team that won only 18 of 68 games and finished last in the league’s Western Conference — were both the most by a draft-eligible forward in the OHL that year. He’d also played in the 2024 CHL/NHL Top Prospects Game in Moncton, N.B., scoring Team White’s goal in a 3-1 loss, and was named to the OHL’s First All-Rookie team after leading all rookies with 25 goals in the 2022-23 season.

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“He was our best player, captain, leading scorer. He was awesome. Leadership’s not easy, and he has taken that role with open arms,” Torres said. “I think there are brighter days ahead for the Windsor Spitfires, and I think they’ll be as early as this upcoming year because of the amount of experience that he and our ’06 group gained. We really entrusted a lot (in him) in a league driven by 19- and 20-year-olds.”

At the end of Greentree’s draft year, NHL Central Scouting listed him as its 14th-ranked North American skater for the 2024 draft, making him the second-highest OHLer behind Oshawa’s Beckett Sennecke (who ranked 13th).

“A good combination of size and skill — he is very effective at driving the play to the net and getting open to shoot,” NHL Central Scouting’s report read. “He protects the puck well and is hard to check, especially off the cycle slipping into scoring areas. Good offensive creativity and confidence with the puck, makes plays using his soft hands in tight, he has an NHL shot and release. Plays his best and gets consistent results when playing the power forward game.”

Torres, who is also a former amateur scout with the Pittsburgh Penguins, felt he should have been a top-15 pick and that he was a first-rounder “all day.”

“I love his work ethic, I love his character, I love his transferable skills, the way he shoots the puck, the way he competes, he’s a hockey nut, and he’s certainly a guy you’d want in your organization,” Torres said.

The Los Angeles Kings drafted him with the No. 26 pick.

Liam Greentree led the Spitfires from the bottom of the OHL Western Conference to the second round of the playoffs.Luke Durda / OHL Images
A year later, he’s coming off an even bigger post-draft season that saw him finish third in the OHL in points (119), fourth in goals (49), fifth in assists (70), fourth in plus-minus (plus-55) and second in shots on goal (306).

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As Torres predicted, the Spitfires took a step on the back of their captain, losing to the Kitchener Rangers in Game 7 of the second round of the OHL playoffs. In their run, Greentree elevated once more, registering 14 goals and 24 points in just 11 playoff games for combined totals of 63 goals and 143 points in 75 regular-season and playoff games.

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His play earned him an invitation from Hockey Canada to attend the World Junior Summer Showcase in July in Minneapolis, which he had to miss to rehab a hand injury.

Today, Spitfires general manager Bill Bowler calls him “an elite performer in our league” and lauds his maturity, character, leadership and progress.

“He just keeps getting better and better,” Bowler said.

Chief among his progress has been his improved skating, which he has worked hard at with power skating coach Kyle Allard and by strengthening his legs in the gym. (The Spitfires listed him at 6-foot-3 and 216 pounds last season, which would have made him the fourth-heaviest Kings forward, behind Quinton Byfield, Anze Kopitar and Tanner Jeannot.)

“He’s got a powerful long stride now,” Bowler said. “He’s becoming a man. The hockey ability, the knack of scoring, the shot have always been evident. I think Liam has the ability to score and create offense regardless of the opponent. He generates it all by himself, and he was always a consistent performer. But there’s no question for me (that the skating is there now). I see him blow away from the opponent, and that’s obvious now.”

Spitfires teammate and Chicago Blackhawks prospect AJ Spellacy calls Greentree “an exceptional player.”

“He’s got an unreal shot — NHL shot already. His ability to protect pucks all over the ice is a big part of his game and will continue at the next level. That’s where he has success, is with his patience and his puck protection,” Spellacy said. “Off the ice, he’s a great guy. He leads by example, but when things need to be said on the ice or in the room, he’s someone who will step up and say that.”

Ask Greentree about himself, and he talks about his dad, Trevor, a general contractor; his mom, Shannon, a registered nurse; and his older brother. He describes himself as mentally tough, passionate and determined, and his game as hard, tough and having a presence. He’s interested in being an athletic therapist in life after hockey, and likes to play tennis and golf. He models his game after Minnesota Wild winger Matt Boldy and says, “He’s big, he’s strong, he uses his body well, he’s got a good shot, and he’s smart.” He uses a straighter curve than most of his peers these days because of Patrick Kane

 

[kreidertime]

The problem with most fans other than being mentally incompetent is when they look at a scouting report it’s the year they’re getting drafted. They don’t check on scouting reports two or three years after.

 

[kreidertime]

I have no idea why anybody listens to Pronman the guy is literally a fucking schmuck as a scout. Wheeler knows what he’s talking about.

 

[PorterPanzer]

I watched that interview with the Spitfires coach and came away impressed, Greentree has leadership skills severely lacking on this team and his size will most likely give him a good look. If all he needs to work on is his skating this was a great trade. Other then blind hatred for Drury, knocking this trade is sour grapes. Drury>Gorton all day