Breaking News: Blazers will not use Amnesty Clause on Brandon Roy

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Carlito said:
So until feb... We should count on Camby, Johnson, and ? If that doesn't alarm u then something is wrong.

Here comes "get pryz"
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Exactly! We can make through 4 weeks of the season with Camby, Johnson, Prz, and Aldridge manning the 5 no problem.
 
Chuck Hayes would have instantly improved this team on the defensive end. Now that we're keeping Roy we can only offer the mini mid-level. I think the best way to bring in an impact bigman is through trade, not free agency.

I just don't know how much Przy could help. He looked pretty bad after his injury. Maybe it was rust? For his sake I hope it was.
 
Treaty of Batum...

My gut instict is Oden walks after this year regardless. He's been a huge bust in Portland, he's a big city guy, and Miami and rings will appeal to a 25 year old with a favorable tax advantage. So I don't think PA thinks Oden will be here in a year either. The other thought is Oden breaks something putting on his shorts and it's a complete write off with this years contract only having to paid out. As for Roy, they'll keep him till season ticket renewals hit, then he's gone. Short season ya know... Don't want the stupid fans thinking we're dropping their hero before they pay top dollar for season tickets once again.

Meanwhile all the real basketball fans of Ptown will watch a product meant to be sold unfold for a half season.

Oh well!!!
 
Ghost Pepper said:
Treaty of Batum...

My gut instict is Oden walks after this year regardless. He's been a huge bust in Portland, he's a big city guy, and Miami and rings will appeal to a 25 year old with a favorable tax advantage. So I don't think PA thinks Oden will be here in a year either. The other thought is Oden breaks something putting on his shorts and it's a complete write off with this years contract only having to paid out. As for Roy, they'll keep him till season ticket renewals hit, then he's gone. Short season ya know... Don't want the stupid fans thinking we're dropping their hero before they pay top dollar for season tickets once again.

Meanwhile all the real basketball fans of Ptown will watch a product meant to be sold unfold for a half season.

Oh well!!!
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Big city guy? he is from Indiana and went to Ohio State.
 
He spends his summers in LA and has been to Miami for extended stays... He wants the life...

I don't think people think he's a John Stockton type of guy! Those who have seen him in the clubs at least! HAHAHAHA!
 
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Ghost Pepper said:
He spends his summers in LA and has been to Miami for extended stays... He wants the life...
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It's kind of funny, that was one of the big concerns with choosing Durant over Oden -- that he was "big time" and would only want to stay in a big flashy market -- It's weird how things can turn out.
 
Ghost Pepper said:
If the fans of Ptown that "everyones" so worried we'll lose if BRoy is let got vanish.... I would retort "That's a HUGE VICTORY because those are some of the dumbest fucking people on the planet!!!" This guys knees are gone and they wont repair! HE KNOWS IT! Paul ALLen knows it, and so does the coaching staff!" This is a SAD OBVIOUS MARKETING STUNT to get people to come to the games. Paul Allen wants to protect his investment for atleast the next 2 years while looking for a suitable buyer. This is truly how sad our worthless owner has fallen. He wont spring for playoff t-shirts for a sold out Rose Garden, but will PR boost a gimp show that every true basketball fans knows has no shot of getting past the first round of the playoffs. WOW!

Let's not even go to the facts that B Roy plays no defense and slows the offense down to a crawl, but this all but screams 32 win season. As for those who think the blazers had a shot at an up tempo offense this year??!! Think again!!!! LA's #'s will sag, Wallace will be picking his nose waiting for a play to develop and Wes and Batum strengths will be rusting. However, we will get to see Brandon limp up the court, run the shot clock down then try and go 1 on 3 with bad knees. Now that's something to buy season tickets for! HAHAHAHAHA!

Paul Allen is looking to dump this team and he's hoping BRoys past success will buy him some time with the fans...

This is no longer a product worth supporting, because it's scam! We don't have a GM, we are not waiving a guy who can barely walk, and we trying to extend another that breaks his knee getting out of bed. This is stupid people!

Thank God for the Ducks!!! I'm out!
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Some interesting points made here. I'm curious if you grew up and blazer fan and where?
 
Ghost Pepper said:
If PA wants this team to be better he cuts Roy who kills this teams tempo and plays no defense, get a freakin GM, and gets a coach that has an ability to draw up a freaking offense!

That's where I'd start!

BTW- Need a Magnifier is exactly the type of fan who feels winning is the free chalupa at the end of the game! No offense taken!
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Mag isn't Mexican..... I am!
 
I know Durant would rather go out cow tipping than throwing 100's at strippes like greg! Go figure! HAHA!
 
Carlito said:
From reading magnifiers posts I agree with u ghost pepper. Just be prepared to be called Ben Davis or Mixum!
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Remember angry little new guy....... it wasn't WHAT those 2 ass hats were saying, it was HOW they said it.
 
Well HCP... I hope ya don't have stock in Chalupa's because with Roy out there 100 point games will be as regular as snow in death valley!
 
Ghost pepper, owning the board!

and


jwquick Jason Quick
Blazers guard Brandon Roy set to arrive in Portland Tuesday night and will presumably begin workouts Wednesday at team's practice facility
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If B-Roy is here for the season he won't be playing more than 20-25 mpg. Not a problem.
 
Ghost Pepper said:
Well HCP... I hope ya don't have stock in Chalupa's because with Roy out there 100 point games will be as regular as snow in death valley!
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My opinion..... Brandon realizes his limitations by the end of pre season and accepts an reduced roll. We will average more points per game then last season.
 
HCP said:
My opinion..... Brandon realizes his limitations by the end of pre season and accepts an reduced roll. We will average more points per game then last season.
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Honest question for you, John. What makes you believe Brandon will realize his limitations this year when he didn't realize them last year?
 
Ghost Pepper said:
Treaty of Batum...

My gut instict is Oden walks after this year regardless. He's been a huge bust in Portland, he's a big city guy, and Miami and rings will appeal to a 25 year old with a favorable tax advantage. So I don't think PA thinks Oden will be here in a year either. The other thought is Oden breaks something putting on his shorts and it's a complete write off with this years contract only having to paid out. As for Roy, they'll keep him till season ticket renewals hit, then he's gone. Short season ya know... Don't want the stupid fans thinking we're dropping their hero before they pay top dollar for season tickets once again.

Meanwhile all the real basketball fans of Ptown will watch a product meant to be sold unfold for a half season.

Oh well!!!
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OK GP, that makes sense to me.

If Roy is released after the free agents are swallowed up and the Blazers missed a chance to get a FA, that could show that manangement made a mistake with Roy (assuming they had a shot at Landry or Hayes).

I still think they don't want any more multi-year contracts right now, but they are tying their hands right now on the risk of Roy being able to be productive . . . and if this is all done just to appease fans and they plan to cut Roy, that would suck.

I still don't think that is what they are doing, but I guess that could be a possibility. (If they do sign Oden to a multi-year deal or don't use the amnesty clause on Roy before it expires, then they aren't setting this team up to be sold.)
 
Mediocre Man said:
You're better than this. Mags. Just because you disagree is no reason to go bitch on someone
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What I thought it was neat... A long winded rant of the same ol shit I've read for 3 years now. This bitching on Roy was around even when he was healthy. And I read some more. The people that think getting Landry or Hayes for max MLE does require a start. That means LMA at center. Last season we saw just how tough it was for Aldridge to play center. Why would we want to take him out of the position he can dominate in? That makes absolutely 0 sense to me.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Honest question for you, John. What makes you believe Brandon will realize his limitations this year when he didn't realize them last year?
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Who knows, maybe he has had a bit more time to realize his situation. Brandon away from everybody is a real chill quiet guy......he's also very proud, he has to know what people are saying about him. I don't know, I just have a feeling it will start to sink in.
 
Mediocre Man said:
What makes you believe Brandon will realize his limitations this year when he didn't realize them last year?
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I believe the sit-down with Nate and Co demanded (amidst all the media pressure etc) he do whatever it takes this year to be a Team Player, and he accepted.
 
Ghost Pepper said:
If PA wants this team to be better he cuts Roy who kills this teams tempo and plays no defense, get a freakin GM, and gets a coach that has an ability to draw up a freaking offense!

That's where I'd start!

BTW- Need a Magnifier is exactly the type of fan who feels winning is the free chalupa at the end of the game! No offense taken!
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And you are that type of fan that was bitching at Roy's game winners even when he was 100%. This is why I can't take posters like you seriously. Oh btw, review my threads and you will find I do agree with many of the "so called" pessimists in this forum about a lot of their opinions. I just have my own. And your "Neat Story" became on because you used your opinion as some sort of fact; which I completely despise. But as you see, your posts and mine are still on the board; which makes this a fun place to read opinions. Don't hate, eat some bacon strips man.
 
HCP-I agree B Roy's knees wont allow it back to back, but he's got some Brett Favre in him... he knows he done but loves to think he can do it one more time. My concern is Nate who has never run a fast paced team now has his favorite oxen back to play Nate ball.

As for me I've been a Blazer fan for 20 years... I didn't grow up here rather the east coast but I've lived in Ptown long enough to know like the Led Zeppelin song says "The Song Remains the Same!" time for some basketball minds to prevail here....
 
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But the specific seven days during which teams will be able to amnesty player before THIS season, at last report, still being negotiated


So you're saying there's a chance?
 
You're right need a magnifier.... I'm the type who doesn't give a rip if Roy hits the game winner if the whole team doesn't get involved so he can look like a hero 1 game out of 20... I don't cheer for a player who doesn't play defense and slows the offense down so much that other teams are actually looking at the dancers while he walks the ball up the court. Call me a hater but Roy has made a name for Roy, not his team. When he went down LA, Batum, Wes, Camby, Andre and Wallace all shared the ball and played D. Let's see if that happens when ice um up comes back for his next curtain call?

You want a game winning shot, I want a team that wins in the playoffs. Last time I looked a team isn't just one player, and a team wins championships!

Here's some simple questions? Does B Roy make his teamates better? Does he assist them? Does he play defens? Doe he ever look for their shots and mismatches or is he more concerned with his own stats?

Kobe, Wade, Pierce all play defense all get their teamates involved and all have rings.... That's why Roy is not ever in the same conversation with those guys and he always be a second tier player... that and he has NO KNEES!!!!!
 
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Ghost Pepper said:
Your right need a magnifier.... I'm the type who doesn't give a rip if Roy hits the game winner if the whole team doesn't get involved so he can look like a hero 1 game out of 20... I don't cheer for a player who doesn't play defense and slows the offense down so much that other teams are actually looking at the dancers while he walks the ball up the court. Call me a hater but Roy has made a name for Roy, not his team. When he went down LA, Batum, Wes, Camby, Andre and Wallace all shared the ball and played D. Let's see if that happens when ice um up comes back for his next curtain call?

You want a game winning shot, I want a team that wins in the playoffs. Last time I looked a team isn't just one player, and a team wins championships!
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LMAO and yet in this post, you explained all our losses are soley on Roy's shoulders; which again proves my point on how pointless and baseless your analogy is.
 
magnifier661 said:
Last season we saw just how tough it was for Aldridge to play center. Why would we want to take him out of the position he can dominate in? That makes absolutely 0 sense to me.
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I think perhaps you and I were watching different teams last year. I thought LA played very well at the center, and I personally think that he's better at the 5 than the 4.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10POR12.HTM#bypos
 
If you want a conspiracy theory...

You wait for the teams that could bid on him if he's cut to use their money elsewhere. Then you cut him do he can join the Heat where he'd be a perfect fit.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I think perhaps you and I were watching different teams last year. I thought LA played very well at the center, and I personally think that he's better at the 5 than the 4.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10POR12.HTM#bypos
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No he did play better at center. That wasn't the point. My point was the toll it took on him physically for the duration of the season. Anyone that didn't see that is fooling himself. Be advised that I was a firm advocate of LMA at center last season. That was until the end of the season and the playoffs; when I saw how winded he was. Remember when him and Roy were on the podium after the miraculous game 4 performance. He said he was too tired to even speak. That says a lot.
 
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