Breaking!!! PAC 16 - OMG!!!! According to Chip Brown

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OSU, I love your avy! Can you post a bigger version of it for me? (and colorado should now be inside the pacman ;))
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
And BSU to MWC

Wow
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I'm thinking the Mountain West Conference only delayed doing this in order to wait and see how the Pac-10 reacted to the Baylor for Colorado scenario. And now that Colorado is off the table, Boise State. And soon the left overs of the Big XII.
 
BeerBoy said:
Good news. Thanks!

I'd rather have Kansas in the Pac 16 over Texas A&M.
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Totally agree with you. If we get UT and TT we would have a huge Texas presence for TV market, recruiting, more national recognition. Further adding A&M wouldn't really provide much marginal benefit since we already have the other Texas schools. Adding Kansas would be huge for basketball and include Kansas City to the Pac16 market.
 
a&m would be WAY better than Kansas. That being said, Kansas would be a nice consolation prise for basketball anyway.


I'm not sure people up there realize the presence that a&m alums have in SA, Houston and Dallas tv markets.

As for bitter rivalries, UT and a&m are it. It would be a shame to lose that.

The one cool thing that will come from this....if it happens, is that the people in the NW will realize what total college football fantacism is all about.
 
Chip Brown Confirms once again

Texas will announce its plans to join the Pac-10 after its regents meet next Tuesday, source confirm to Orangebloods.com.
TYPO COR: B12 Souh schools (TX, TTech, OU, OSU) confirm to OB with Neb move they go to Pac-10!!! Sorry bout that!!
 
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Maybe Baylor can try to hitch a ride with A&M to the SEC...

Just kidding. That would be hopeless.
 
Despite news that new Pac-10 teams will start in 2012, Nebraska will reportedly start in the Big Ten in 2011. (See Chip Brown link above)

I guess this has to do with the fact that the Pac-10 TV contract won't start until then, while the Big Ten won't renegotiate for a while.
 
Entity said:
Despite news that new Pac-10 teams will start in 2012, Nebraska will reportedly start in the Big Ten in 2011. (See Chip Brown link above)

I guess this has to do with the fact that the Pac-10 TV contract won't start until then, while the Big Ten won't renegotiate for a while.
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I thought I heard if teams don't wait two years they miss out on a ton of money from the old conference. Perhaps the Big10 is compensating for some of this?
 
Mediocre Man said:
a&m would be WAY better than Kansas. That being said, Kansas would be a nice consolation prise for basketball anyway.


I'm not sure people up there realize the presence that a&m alums have in SA, Houston and Dallas tv markets.

As for bitter rivalries, UT and a&m are it. It would be a shame to lose that.

The one cool thing that will come from this....if it happens, is that the people in the NW will realize what total college football fantacism is all about.
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I no doubt believe A&M is much more attractive in isolation when compared to Kansas. But if you already have the big Texas school it drastically reduces the benefit of adding another one to the conference.

It's the same reason the SEC doesn't have much interest in adding Miami or Florida State. Those are huge succesful programs, but the SEC already has Florida, so they already have the Florida market. TV stations won't pay much extra just to add a second or third Florida school, but they would pay a TON to add a Texas school like A&M.
 
THIS IS GETTING CRAZY! Am I the only one who thinks 16 teams is too many?
 
I still want A&M. I have some friends who are fans of that team, and I'd much rather talk about the beat-down they're about to receive than how great the SEC is. My other SEC friends are already playing that tune to death.
 
HCP said:
THIS IS GETTING CRAZY! Am I the only one who thinks 16 teams is too many?
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You'd better not listen, then, when I tell you about the PAC-10/SEC merger.

barfo
 
At least for the next few days, the Big Ten and the Big XII have to swap logos.
 
I feel bad about Kansas.

In the midst of the current conference expansion insanity, we have a school that's soon to not be aligned with any major conference. They are the 3rd-winningest program in their sport's history. They've won 5 National Championships. Their first coach was the inventor of the sport itself.

So why doesn't anyone want Kansas?

Yeah, yeah, I know, football is king. Football makes the most money, has the most support, and consequently dictates every decision made by the major conferences. But how insane is it that Kansas, arguably the most storied program in college basketball history, will be left out in the cold while Nebraska, an irrelevant basketball school for its entire history and barely an above-average football one over the past decade, gets to decide the fate of an entire conference? How does that make any sense?

Over at ESPN, Eamonn Brennan tackled the issue of Kansas' inexplicable irrelevance in the conference shuffle:

"The Pac-10 doesn't want Kansas. The Big Ten doesn't seem wholly interested. The Jayhawks are, for the moment, on the outside of conference expansion looking in. Which says a lot more about conference expansion than it does the Kansas Jayhawks.

What it says is that college basketball doesn't at all factor into what conference expansion will produce."

What if the tables were turned? What if, say, Michigan was without an affiliation? Would other major conferences possibly be interested in adding them to their ranks?

Of course they would -- they'd kill for Michigan. Because Michigan is the football equivalent of Kansas basketball. Another KU analogue, Notre Dame, has been fending off would-be conference suitors (in football, at least) for decades. That's the reality of being a college football powerhouse. But when an elite basketball program becomes available, the only question is, "How's their football team?"

Like Brennan wrote, basketball fans may understand this summer's conference free-for-all on an intellectual level, but that doesn't make it any easier to stomach when one of the prestige programs in the entire country, the place where Dr. James Naismith himself coached, finds itself on the outside looking in while historically lame basketball programs like Colorado and Nebraska dictates its future.
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6485
 
HCP said:
THIS IS GETTING CRAZY! Am I the only one who thinks 16 teams is too many?
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Compared to what conferences have been then yes I'd agree.

But this might just be the future of the major conferences, SEC adds a few teams they'd be at 16. ACC might expand and pick off the good Big East schools. The Big10 is already at 12 teams and is looking at adding Norte Dame + others. In the end you'd have four 16 team super conferences.

Maybe it would be easier to think of it as two 8 team conferences.... If you only play out of division teams once every four years it doesn't seem right to think of them as "in our conference"
 
I'm going to miss the rivalries. This is kinda like my Blazers being in the same conference with Minny and OKC! I don't want to see USC or UW only coming thru every 5 years or so. The one positive for Kansas if they stay, they will win the conference title in everything from hoops to chess!
 
HCP said:
I'm going to miss the rivalries. This is kinda like my Blazers being in the same conference with Minny and OKC! I don't want to see USC or UW only coming thru every 5 years or so. The one positive for Kansas if they stay, they will win the conference title in everything from hoops to chess!
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Well the proposals I've seen have us in a division with all the old Pac8 schools, which is everyone from last year minus Arizona and Arizona State. We would play those Pac8 teams every year.

It's just the Texas/Oklahoma/Colorado/Arizona schools that we would play once every 3 or 4 years.
 
Draco said:
Well the proposals I've seen have us in a division with all the old Pac8 schools, which is everyone from last year minus Arizona and Arizona State. We would play those Pac8 teams every year.

It's just the Texas/Oklahoma/Colorado/Arizona schools that we would play once every 3 or 4 years.
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^^^ What he said, HCP
 
I'm down in eugene working the track championships for CBS and literraly just walked by 10 guys and coaches from Texas and I hollered at em, "you guys comin to the Pac-10?" They all laughed and said Tuesday is the news conference!"
 
Entity said:
Maybe Baylor can try to hitch a ride with A&M to the SEC...

Just kidding. That would be hopeless.
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not so
they can join Houston, UTEP, Rice, and SMU
 
Such a merger between the six Big 12 schools and the Pac-10 would build a conference with seven of the country's top 20 TV markets (Los Angeles, Dallas, San Francisco, Houston, Phoenix, Seattle and Sacramento). And such a league would likely command attention from every cable system in the country and command a premium rate from every cable system west of the Mississippi.
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It's eight of the top 20, not seven. They keep forgetting Denver. Nine of the top 22 when adding Portland.
 
Can you imagine Texas rollin' into Autzen?!?! There goes my Rose Bowl hopes!
 
Geeking it out here. This is a map of the Pac-10 Conference, featuring likely and possible candidates. Blue is Pac-10, Orange is Big XII, and Utah is white because... Utah is white.

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That's what I'm talking about! There isn't anything PACIFIC about it anymore!
 
HCP said:
Can you imagine Texas rollin' into Autzen?!?! There goes my Rose Bowl hopes!
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Better yet...

Imagine Texas rollin' into Stanford stadium, where we get that place 1/4 full with 10,000 fans for a good game. They won't know how to handle that hostile environment of nerds sitting on their hands the entire game!!

Actually, they'll think they are at the wrong stadium, playing in a high school game. :)
 
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