Trade Bring back Batum?

[Scalma]

raising their value is totally within their control and only their control...Meyers is like a 6 year old car with 200 miles on it. He played better in small sample sizes this season. Turner has a motor and is a big piece of our defensive identity last season...he can improve his offense for sure...Meyers salary is not extravagant to a team who makes him a rotation player at all...Dallas fits him and so does Indiana, Orlando..lots of teams need bigs who can shoot

$10m for a backup is the definition of extravagant in today’s market. There are starters that won’t get that this offseason.

 

[riverman]

Starters won’t get that this offseason.

Nurk will

 

[Scalma]

Nurk will

Or not. Bobby Marks doesnt think he’ll get more than Meyers.

 

[riverman]

Or not. Bobby Marks doesnt think he’ll get more than Meyers.

I think he'll get Turner money

 

[oldfisherman]

Batum' s passing skills would make it more dificult for teams to doubleteam Dame. He would improve the defense. Plus he can turn into a rebounding beast, when he wants to.

On the other side, he is maddeningly inconsistent.

Overall, the trade in the op would upgrade the Blazers at their weakest position.

But the big question is. Would Batum want to return to the Blazers, would he be happy here?

 

[BonesJones]

Would anyone do it for Leonar_ and Turner?

No, Charlotte wouldn't

I think they would. They'd essentially get out of Batums contract a year early.

 

[BonesJones]

POR Gets: Courtney Lee, #14
NYK Gets: Caleb Swanigan, Kenneth Faried
DEN Gets: #24

CLE Gets: Kemba Walker, Maurice Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu,
POR Gets: Kevin Love, Nicolas Batum, Cedi Osman
CHA Gets: #14, Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Lee
Batum / FA?
Love / Collins
Nurkic / Davis

If theres any lineup that Batum could regain peak form in, it's that one.

 

[Gronk Brady]

POR Gets: Courtney Lee, #14
NYK Gets: Caleb Swanigan, Kenneth Faried
DEN Gets: #24

CLE Gets: Kemba Walker, Maurice Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu,
POR Gets: Kevin Love, Nicolas Batum, Cedi Osman
CHA Gets: #14, Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Lee
Batum / FA?
Love / Collins
Nurkic / Davis

If theres any lineup that Batum could regain peak form in, it's that one.

If I could pick just 1 player I hope the Blazers don’t trade for its Courtney Lee... talk about mediocre... I puke in my mouth a little bit every time I see a proposed trade for him... I cannot understand this forums obsession with him

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

POR Gets: Courtney Lee, #14
NYK Gets: Caleb Swanigan, Kenneth Faried
DEN Gets: #24

CLE Gets: Kemba Walker, Maurice Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu,
POR Gets: Kevin Love, Nicolas Batum, Cedi Osman
CHA Gets: #14, Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Lee
Batum / FA?
Love / Collins
Nurkic / Davis

If theres any lineup that Batum could regain peak form in, it's that one.

This is interesting, I’d be concerned defensively Dame and CJ can’t really switch on D and Love plays watch the dribbler run by him type defense. Offensively though that’s a pretty good team.

 

[BonesJones]

If I could pick just 1 player I hope the Blazers don’t trade for its Courtney Lee... talk about mediocre... I puke in my mouth a little bit every time I see a proposed trade for him... I cannot understand this forums obsession with him

Lol.

He fits perfectly in our TPE, and is a guy who we could very for very cheap or free that could still upgrade our rotation.

How is he mediocre? He's a veteran who's a 40% 3pt shooter and a solid defender.

 

[BonesJones]

This is interesting, I’d be concerned defensively Dame and CJ can’t really switch on D and Love plays watch the dribbler run by him type defense. Offensively though that’s a pretty good team.

It should be a top 3 offense, and I think it could be around the 10th ranked defense.

 

[Natebishop3]

POR Gets: Courtney Lee, #14
NYK Gets: Caleb Swanigan, Kenneth Faried
DEN Gets: #24

CLE Gets: Kemba Walker, Maurice Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu,
POR Gets: Kevin Love, Nicolas Batum, Cedi Osman
CHA Gets: #14, Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Lee
Batum / FA?
Love / Collins
Nurkic / Davis

If theres any lineup that Batum could regain peak form in, it's that one.

There is no chance in hell that Charlotte trades Kemba for the #14th pick, Evan Turner, and Meyers Leoanrd. Nope. Not gonna happen.

 

[BonesJones]

If I could pick just 1 player I hope the Blazers don’t trade for its Courtney Lee... talk about mediocre... I puke in my mouth a little bit every time I see a proposed trade for him... I cannot understand this forums obsession with him

And in this trade, it's flipping Faried for him while getting the 14th pick in the draft. Its a either/or scenario and I'd rather have Lee.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Lol.

He fits perfectly in our TPE, and is a guy who we could very for very cheap or free that could still upgrade our rotation.

How is he mediocre? He's a veteran who's a 40% 3pt shooter and a solid defender.

I actually like the rest of your trades in this proposal... Lee is a minor part of these deals... my response is more towards other posts I have seen so many times where people think Lee is some diffence maker that will change the fortunes of this team... he is a 33 year old journeyman that’s played for 7 teams...

 

[BonesJones]

There is no chance in hell that Charlotte trades Kemba for the #14th pick, Evan Turner, and Meyers Leoanrd. Nope. Not gonna happen.

Bruh, don't avoid the context.

They would want to trade Batum for ET and Kyle. They get out of that contract a year early. That's a positive for them.

I wrestled with them swapping #11 for #8. You could probably add that to it. Trading up from #11 to #8, getting the 14th pick, and getting out of the last year of Kembas deal is a great trade for them.

 

[BonesJones]

I actually like the rest of your trades in this proposal... Lee is a minor part of these deals... my response is more towards other posts I have seen so many times where people think Lee is some diffence maker that will change the fortunes of this team... he is a 33 year old journeyman that’s played for 7 teams...

Ed Davis was a journeyman too. Lee would be a big upgrade over Connaughton, especially in the playoffs.

 

[roroyo]

"Bring back Batum?"
"Would you take back LaMarcus?"
"Could we bring Wes back?"
"Robin Lopez would help us"
Ex girlfriend syndrome.

 

[Scalma]

"Bring back Batum?"
"Would you take back LaMarcus?"
"Could we bring Wes back?"
"Robin Lopez would help us"
Ex girlfriend syndrome.

Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Non.

 

[kjironman1]

I really don't like the idea of Frenchy coming back to the Blazers and 27 million ????? Are you freakin kidding me?

Here is a look at the "Nic Batum" thread over on Hornets Planet.
Just read the thread and try to remember what was happening when he was here. It will most certainly make you reconsider the very thought of him coming back to Portland.
http://hornetsplanet.com/topic/47484-batum-thread/

I so very serious when i say it's like jumping into a time capsule and reading the very same comments made just a few short years ago here. "Batum isn't even worthy of a starting position".... "Batum is too soft to play in this league".... "How can you be so tough on Batum when he is playing injured?" ..... " He plays all summer for France so he never heals".... " Batum can pass and be a good role player but not for that money".... The list of quotes is exactly what everyone was complaining about 3 years ago. Then there is a little problem with his shooting getting worse than it was even just a couple years ago here.


No to Frenchy!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If Charlotte wants to dump Batum, can't they find contracts that expire quicker?
Maybe...this? (Assuming Boston still misses Turner....)

 

[jlprk]

http://hornetsplanet.com/topic/47484-batum-thread/

I so very serious when i say it's like jumping into a time capsule and reading the very same comments made just a few short years ago here. "Batum isn't even worthy of a starting position".... "Batum is too soft to play in this league".... "How can you be so tough on Batum when he is playing injured?" ..... " He plays all summer for France so he never heals".... " Batum can pass and be a good role player but not for that money"....No to Frenchy!

samples

No more fucking French people please......

His left arm is like 30% tape

If he’s still here next year - this what I do. I start him at the 3. I demand hustle and intensity. If I dont see it; he sits. If he casually throws the ball away and raises his hands palms up like “c’est la vie!”; he gets chewed out, then he sits.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

"Bring back Batum?"
"Would you take back LaMarcus?"
"Could we bring Wes back?"
"Robin Lopez would help us"
Ex girlfriend syndrome.

Wes is my favorite Blazer ever and while I’d be “happy” he came back, I understand he’s not very good anymore and on a strategic level no I don’t want him back.
LMA in a vacuum is way better than our 4’s right now, yes bring him back.
Lopez was good here but Nurkic has a much higher ceiling so no.
Batum, is inconsistent and seems lazy, but better than our SF’s now, so while I don’t “want” him back, i would probably do this.
It’s not ex-girlfriend syndrome it’s trying to get better, and some of our extra players were better than our current ones.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Wes is my favorite Blazer ever and while I’d be “happy” he came back, I understand he’s not very good anymore and on a strategic level no I don’t want him back.
LMA in a vacuum is way better than our 4’s right now, yes bring him back.
Lopez was good here but Nurkic has a much higher ceiling so no.
Batum, is inconsistent and seems lazy, but better than our SF’s now, so while I don’t “want” him back, i would probably do this.
It’s not ex-girlfriend syndrome it’s trying to get better, and some of our extra players were better than our current ones.

When Batum was here he lead the league in distance traveled on the court. This "inconsistency" concern some have is dumb, but "seems lazy"
is factually wrong.

Totally agree with you on the "ex-girlfriend" syndrome. The LMA Blazers were a top 3 team in the west. Adding some of those players
back COULD definitely be useful.

 

[CupWizier]

When Batum was here he lead the league in distance traveled on the court. This "inconsistency" concern some have is dumb, but "seems lazy"
is factually wrong.

Totally agree with you on the "ex-girlfriend" syndrome. The LMA Blazers were a top 3 team in the west. Adding some of those players
back COULD definitely be useful.

As an alternative and first choice, I would prefer to go after Tyreke Evans, but as a free agent, I don't think our cap MLE would be close enough to get him here.

 

[CupWizier]

If Charlotte wants to dump Batum, can't they find contracts that expire quicker?
Maybe...this? (Assuming Boston still misses Turner....)

Baynes and Monroe are free agents so they can't be traded in this deal. Boston is also very wing heavy so adding Turner and losing 3 of their bigger players makes no sense for them.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Baynes and Monroe are free agents so they can't be traded in this deal. Boston is also very wing heavy so adding Turner and losing 3 of their bigger players makes no sense for them.

Huh - somebody at ESPN needs to update the Trade Machine!

The reason I picked those players is because I heard they might be losing them anyway, so that should've clued me in that they were FAs.

But in general: no team other than Boston is ever likely to be interested in Turner.

 

[CupWizier]

Huh - somebody at ESPN needs to update the Trade Machine!

The reason I picked those players is because I heard they might be losing them anyway, so that should've clued me in that they were FAs.

But in general: no team other than Boston is ever likely to be interested in Turner.

Yeah, there are some glitches in the trade machine as it only looks at current contracts and until July 1st, the trade machine thinks those players are under contract thus tradeable.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I really don't like the idea of Frenchy coming back to the Blazers and 27 million ????? Are you freakin kidding me?

Here is a look at the "Nic Batum" thread over on Hornets Planet.
Just read the thread and try to remember what was happening when he was here. It will most certainly make you reconsider the very thought of him coming back to Portland.
http://hornetsplanet.com/topic/47484-batum-thread/

I so very serious when i say it's like jumping into a time capsule and reading the very same comments made just a few short years ago here. "Batum isn't even worthy of a starting position".... "Batum is too soft to play in this league".... "How can you be so tough on Batum when he is playing injured?" ..... " He plays all summer for France so he never heals".... " Batum can pass and be a good role player but not for that money".... The list of quotes is exactly what everyone was complaining about 3 years ago. Then there is a little problem with his shooting getting worse than it was even just a couple years ago here.


No to Frenchy!

It seems to me that Batum has transitioned into being the full time PG for that team. He has more assists/minute than Kemba Walker. He never exactly looked for his shot and now he's on the ball more, I bet he shoots even less. But we'll need him to translate for Okobo when we draft him!

But it's true there is some Batum hate - witness:

 

[Boob-No-More]

CHA Gets: #14, Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard

Which is just a polite way of saying CHA gets FUCKED.

BNM