BRoy interview coming up live (MERGED)

[alex42083]

With Roy, when he has two more years (at least) under contract with the Blazers, there is certainly justification for not giving Roy a blank check.

Ed O.

And yet, you run the risk of seeing your franchise player leave or not want to play for you anymore.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

Blazersedge tweet:

B Roy's agent is one of best in business. Applying public pressure is a no-brainer. Don't trip.

 

[The Professional Fan]

So, back to the point, Brandon IS or IS NOT selling his house?

 

[Reep]

Or he'll demand a trade before camp/hold out of camp. Both of which I'd advise my client to do if I knew somebody will give him a 5-year max deal as an RFA and I'm not signed by October 31.

Hold out for two years? With a new CBA coming? When all you are bickering over is a few million over that time, or who has the option for the fifth year? He can hold out for that now, but I can't see him holding out over two years for it.

Both sides will come to a compromise, you just have to work your way to that point.

 

[ABM]

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2009/07/brandon_roy_to_blazers_ive_don.html

 

[alex42083]

How do we know that it was 5 years, guaranteed? What if the Blazers offered 3 years and 2 more years with a team option? or 4 years guaranteed with a 1 year team option?

Maybe this is what they offer Roy as well - 4 + 1 - and he wants 5 guaranteed, or maybe they offer 5 guaranteed and he wants 4+1 with an early termination option for himself?

Then he would've just forgone the whole trip to Portland and dinner with Nate, and taken his ball to Toronto immediately. He gave his verbal commitment to Portland. The only question was whether he felt the city was the right fit for him.

 

[illmatic99]

So, back to the point, Brandon IS or IS NOT selling his house?

No. maxiep was fucking around.

 

[Reep]

And yet, you run the risk of seeing your franchise player leave or not want to play for you anymore.

If Brandon wants to leave over an option year or a few million, then he isn't the guy I thought he was.

Repeat after me: Negotiations take time, negotiations take time . . .

 

[PapaG]

Hold out for two years? With a new CBA coming? When all you are bickering over is a few million over that time, or who has the option for the fifth year? He can hold out for that now, but I can't see him holding out over two years for it.

Both sides will come to a compromise, you just have to work your way to that point.

I thought he could become an RFA next summer. Somebody will surely max him then for 5 years. The Blazers can dick him around now only to pay him next year? He's not "under contract" for two more years. To be a UFA, sure, but he'll get a 5 year max, and if I'm him, I'd force my way out of Portland this summer to get it signed before October 31st.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

"It's amicable," Pritchard said. "We plan to make it amicable. More importantly, Brandon and LaMarcus will be here for a long time."


In other words, more importantly than it being amicable . . . we control Brandon and LaMarcus and can fuck with them for the next three years.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

Blazersedge tweet:

realize this negotiation is not just about brandon. it's about LA too. maxing brandon immediately influences LA's negotiation

 

[The Professional Fan]

No. maxiep was fucking around.

I know. Damnit, I failed.

 

[Reep]

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2009/07/brandon_roy_to_blazers_ive_don.html

Canzano is spinning that quite a bit. Roy's words sound like what he should say in his situation (likely from his agent). Canzano is overreacting.

 

[alex42083]

If Brandon wants to leave over an option year or a few million, then he isn't the guy I thought he was.

Repeat after me: Negotiations take time, negotiations take time . . .

If Paul Allen or Vulcans or whomever want their franchise player to leave over a few million, then he isn't the owner committed to winning that I thought he was either.

 

[Minstrel]

If Paul Allen or Vulcans or whomever want their franchise player to leave over a few million, then he isn't the owner committed to winning that I thought he was either.

I wonder what team Roy is going to be on next. He'll be my favourite ex-Blazer.

 

[PapaG]

Canzano is spinning that quite a bit. Roy's words sound like what he should say in his situation (likely from his agent). Canzano is overreacting.

How is Canzano overreacting? Roy will get a 5 year max deal from somebody next summer, and he won't play this year without a contract only to have Portland match next summer. Either give the man 5 years, or expect him to start questioning the franchise's loyalty to him.

 

[Minstrel]

Roy will get a 5 year max deal from somebody next summer

If he does, Portland can match and that's that.

So you seem to basically be certain Roy will be a Blazer for a long time.

 

[B-Roy]

If he does, Portland can match and that's that.

So you seem to basically be certain Roy will be a Blazer for a long time.

So....why not max him now instead of waiting a year of uncertainty to match a max offer?

 

[PapaG]

This caught my eye. Whoever is posting that Roy has two more years under contract is incorrect, and to think he won't end up getting a 5 year max deal starting in 2010-11 is laughable. So, the question is, why dick with him now?

Tier 1: Franchise Players

1. Lebron James- The best player in the world, and also the most important domino in terms of the possibility of a free agent Pied Piper. My best guess is that his effect on other players would be much more dramatic if he chooses to go to a larger media market (Knicks, Nets), which also coincides with more desirable cities to live in. If he stays in the Cleve, the status quo there should continue, but I’d put it at over 50-50 that he would have another Max-quality free agent to play with if he went to NYC.

2. Dwyane Wade- Possibly the most interesting player in terms of 2010 ramifications because of his insane skill and the variety of places he could end up. I see him going in one of three directions: First (and most likely), he says in South Beach with Beasley and the rest. Miami is a great place to live, the “fans” love him, and they have a decent core with management that is happy to build around him. The next most likely possibility is that he moves to a new city with a star, probably LeBron. D-Wade is a winner and I could see him wanting to play with another top shelf guy, which also seems to fit his personality on the court. Finally, the sleeper option for Dwyane is Chicago. Chi-Town is home for him, and Derrick Rose is exactly the type of player I could see Wade saying “Man, I want to play with him.” Something to keep a sharp eye on is any interaction between Rose and Wade at the 2010 All-Star Game, since both should be on the floor for the same team at some point. Like Lebron, Wade will probably be one of the first dominoes to fall in the 2010 offseason, considering the salary offers won’t really vary (other than Miami and everyone else), so D-Wade can think about his decision long before it needs to be made.

3. Brandon Roy (Restricted Free Agent)- I fully expect that Brandon will either sign an extension sooner rather than later or Paul Allen will match any deal he could sign as an RFA, but he’s on here in the interests of full inclusion.

4. Chris Bosh- His choices are nearly identical to D-Wade’s, but I think he is less likely to choose Door #1 than Wade (despite admittedly no direct knowledge on the thought process). In short, he will either stay in Toronto, join forces with another All-Star (probably LeBron or Wade), or go home, which for him is Texas, and Houston should have sufficient cap space in 2010 (as could his hometown Mavericks if Dirk leaves…)

http://veganfishtacos.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/2010-primer-the-free-agents/

 

[Minstrel]

So....why not max him now instead of waiting a year of uncertainty to match a max offer?

Because if Portland wants something else, like a 4 year deal, they may be able to get that done instead this off-season. The reason Roy might do that is because he still gets max dollars for four years, he doesn't risk a catastrophic injury taking away his earning value next season and he reaches his next (potentially even bigger) deal a year earlier.

 

[PapaG]

If he does, Portland can match and that's that.

So you seem to basically be certain Roy will be a Blazer for a long time.

Or, Roy holds out of camp and forces a trade in October to a team that has the sense to extend him before October 31st. I'm not seeing how allowing your franchise/All-Star player to go an entire season without a contract for the next year is a good business move in the long-term.

 

[Minstrel]

Or, Roy holds out of camp and forces a trade in October to a team that has the sense to extend him before October 31st.

Anything is possible. That's pretty out there, though.

I'm not seeing how allowing your franchise/All-Star player to go an entire season without a contract for the next year is a good business move in the long-term.

I expect a deal to be struck this off-season. But negotiating, when tens of millions of dollars are on the line, is far from unreasonable.

 

[BlazerWookee]

How do you know it's a non-issue when all signs have pointed toward this contract extension talks continuing to be dragged out for our franchise player?

How do you know it's an issue when all signs pointing toward these contract extension talks continuing to be dragged out for our franchise player are being painted by people with a financial interest in getting the largest and longest contract possible?

 

[Pinwheel1]

I did not enjoy the interview and it is evident that Roy's agent orchistrated the interview and leaked the info to Quick to get the fans in a uproar and to gain the upperhand. All's fair in love and war. Good move by Roy's camp.

However keep in mind that KP and BROY have a very good relationship so I am sure they will work it out. Both are doing their jobs. KP just can't say "what ever you want BROY" and them turn around and negotiate with LMA. KP's leverage is hurt by both of them having the same lawyer IMO. And to give them both the MAX so easily is tough. But to say that it is an ego thing with KP, is fucking ignorant.

 

[PapaG]

How do you know it's an issue when all signs pointing toward these contract extension talks continuing to be dragged out for our franchise player are being painted by people with a financial interest in getting the largest and longest contract possible?

(A) Did you listen to the Roy interview?

(B) Is 25 year-old, 2nd team All-NBA, two-time All-Star Brandon Roy worth a 5-year max contract?

I'm a yes on (A), and a HELL YES on (B). I side with the Blazers on pretty much everything, including their lack of moves in the past year, but this one? I can't do it. My Kool-Aid isn't THAT strong of a batch.

 

[BlazerWookee]

And yet, you run the risk of seeing your franchise player leave or not want to play for you anymore.

Zero risk. Zero.

 

[PapaG]

Zero risk. Zero.

Untrue.

 

[alex42083]

Zero risk. Zero.

How do you know it's an issue when all signs pointing toward these contract extension talks continuing to be dragged out for our franchise player are being painted by people with a financial interest in getting the largest and longest contract possible?

All right man.. just keep pretending everything is all rosy around here, and we've been adhering to Plan A this entire offseason, KP is getting exactly what he's wanted so far, and everyone is happy and there are no issues.

 

[MAS RipCity]

Quick making this seem doom and gloom big time on 1080, says Roy's feelings are hurt..kp is dropping the fucking ball..strike 1

 

[Minstrel]

Untrue.

Why? You said that he'll definitely be offered a 5 year, max deal next season as an RFA. Portland just has to match and they have him for 5 more years.

Or, you're placing the "risk" on him holding out and forcing a trade? So why did you claim I "challenged you on something you didn't say" when I attributed to you the belief that Roy "might" hold out and force a trade?