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He was amazing. I am so happy for him. He sounds like a great person. As a season ticket holder I haven't been this pumpt since the Pippen trade. Roy is a great leader and will be a great mentor for years to come. Our team is in great hands...
 
RW#30 said:
He was amazing. I am so happy for him. He sounds like a great person. As a season ticket holder I haven't been this pumpt since the Pippen trade. Roy is a great leader and will be a great mentor for years to come. Our team is in great hands...
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WHY DO YOU HAVE KOBE JAIL PICTURE?
 
If his contract is why my season ticket cost went up, I won't complain about it for a second!
 
Tince said:
If his contract is why my season ticket cost went up, I won't complain about it for a second!
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Actually there was a really interesting subject on this on CBS sports. Portland had the third highest ticket sales per game, but because of our market size the tickets are priced lower than other markets and we were only 15th in ticket revenue. This is why ticket prices are rising.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/12031620

Using the league data obtained by CBSSports.com, Jim Grinstead of Revenues from Sports Venues created sort of a Class Warfare Index for NBA teams. It shows some things you'd expect -- such as some of the biggest-market teams making the most money on ticket sales -- and some things you might not. Portland, New Orleans and Orlando are great examples of why a better revenue sharing model is needed. All three teams were above the league average in total ticket sales but below average in ticket revenue simply because those markets can't support high enough prices. The Blazers are the most blatant example, selling an average of 17,872 tickets per game (third in the league) but generating only $813,809 per game (15th).

"The key on Portland and New Orleans is that they aren't maximizing their ticket revenues per fan in the stands compared with other teams," Grinstead said. "It could be that they are underpriced, or it could be that their market won't allow more aggressive pricing. You can't charge New York prices in Milwaukee."
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It's really a great read.
 
Tince said:
If his contract is why my season ticket cost went up, I won't complain about it for a second!
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Actually, the team won't be paying the luxury tax next year for the first time in years. Your ticket prices went up because demand is higher, not because of salary constraints. It's a business, after all.
 
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ODENISGOD said:
WHY DO YOU HAVE KOBE JAIL PICTURE?
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Reminds me what a creep he is.:devilwink:

I named my dog after him still in HS. Then he forced CHA to trade him to the Lakers. That was the first sign what a primadona he was.

BTW- the dog is 12+ yrs old now and still a great companion . His name sake could learn a few things about loyalty and friendship....
 
PapaG said:
Actually, the team won't be paying the luxury tax next year for the first time in years. Your ticket prices went up because demand is higher, not because of salary constraints. It's a business, after all.
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I'm aware his contract is an extension, that's why I was never worried. I'm also aware of supply and demand.

However, if a business knew it's expenses were going up a year from now, they wouldn't wait until then to address them.
 
Tince said:
I'm aware his contract is an extension, that's why I was never worried. I'm also aware of supply and demand.

However, if a business knew it's expenses were going up a year from now, they wouldn't wait until then to address them.
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Correct. But Roy's been assumed a max player for two years now. Why not raise tickets last year, when there wasn't a recession? Anyhow, it's all semantics, and the Blazers seem more than willing to cash in on the extra money this year, when the salary level is low, yet tickets are higher. I don't blame them a bit, BTW.
 
PapaG said:
Correct. But Roy's been assumed a max player for two years now. Why not raise tickets last year, when there wasn't a recession?
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Probably because the team hadn't yet been particularly successful. Now they have a successful team and can much better justify price increases.
 
Minstrel said:
Probably because the team hadn't yet been particularly successful. Now they have a successful team and can much better justify price increases.
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Depends, I suppose. Raising prices in one of the worst job markets in the US seems risky. Then again, the people seemingly prospering in this economy are those that already have a lot of money. Depends on who the target audience is, I suppose.
 
PapaG said:
Correct. But Roy's been assumed a max player for two years now. Why not raise tickets last year, when there wasn't a recession? Anyhow, it's all semantics, and the Blazers seem more than willing to cash in on the extra money this year, when the salary level is low, yet tickets are higher. I don't blame them a bit, BTW.
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My tickets have gone up for 3 straight years!
 
PapaG said:
The nerve of them, to run a luxury as a business. It's an outrage! :)
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I know, those punks!

Not only did they raise my ticket prices, they wouldn't let me upgrade from 2 seats to 4.

I think I'm making it a little too obvious to them that raising ticket prices isn't scaring me one bit.
 
PapaG said:
Depends, I suppose. Raising prices in one of the worst job markets in the US seems risky. Then again, the people seemingly prospering in this economy are those that already have a lot of money. Depends on who the target audience is, I suppose.
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Well, the RG holds about 20,000 people, and there are something like 2,000,000 people in the metro area, so they only need to attract 1% of the population on any given night. (Wow, I didn't think it would be that big a percentage - did I do the math right?). So they don't really need to worry about the unemployment rate per se, because there will still be plenty of employed people even if the unemployment rate hits 25%. They do need to worry if those that buy tickets start saving rather than spending, but they won't be much affected by people losing their jobs (unless sports fans are particularly likely to lose their jobs).

barfo
 
barfo said:
Well, the RG holds about 20,000 people, and there are something like 2,000,000 people in the metro area, so they only need to attract 1% of the population on any given night. (Wow, I didn't think it would be that big a percentage - did I do the math right?). So they don't really need to worry about the unemployment rate per se, because there will still be plenty of employed people even if the unemployment rate hits 25%. They do need to worry if those that buy tickets start saving rather than spending, but they won't be much affected by people losing their jobs (unless sports fans are particularly likely to lose their jobs).

barfo
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Yeah, as I was saying, the Blazers are marketing their tickets to those least impacted by the recession. That's not a bad thing, yet it is hardly the sign of the team being a "luxury".
 
PapaG said:
Yeah, as I was saying, the Blazers are marketing their tickets to those least impacted by the recession. That's not a bad thing, yet it is hardly the sign of the team being a "luxury".
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Well, it is a sign of the team being a luxury to those who buy tickets.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Well, it is a sign of the team being a luxury to those who buy tickets.

barfo
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Very true. I suppose it could be said that the anyone who buys a ticket views it as a luxury, though. The Blazers have merely chosen to offer Paul Allen's luxury to higher income buyers.
 
I paid $12 each for my playoff tickets, I think clearly there is a problem. That is just too low for a professional sports team, and I sit front row 300 level in the end zone.
 
RW#30 said:
He was amazing. I am so happy for him. He sounds like a great person. As a season ticket holder I haven't been this pumpt since the Pippen trade. Roy is a great leader and will be a great mentor for years to come. Our team is in great hands...
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As a pretentious sounding linguist and *tries to hold back laughter* thinker, I approve of this spelling of pumped. Seriously, I find it charming, and even if it's just a typo, I hope it gains popularity.

Also, good about Roy. I think he goes down as Best Blazer Ever when everything is said and done.


ODENISGOD said:
WHY DO YOU HAVE KOBE JAIL PICTURE?
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dude take your fucking Ritalin.
 
hoojacks said:
Also, good about Roy. I think he goes down as Best Blazer Ever when everything is said and done.
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Although I agree with Dwight that Roy isn't the greatest Blazers player ever at this moment, it will be unavoidable that he will be considered as such once he has won multiple championships as a Blazer. That is, unless Oden turns into the next Shaq. Then we'd all have something to argue about into old age. As if we need more things to argue about. :cheers:
 
BBert said:
Although I agree with Dwight that Roy isn't the greatest Blazers player ever at this moment, it will be unavoidable that he will be considered as such once he has won multiple championships as a Blazer. That is, unless Oden turns into the next Shaq. Then we'd all have something to argue about into old age. As if we need more things to argue about. :cheers:
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If B-Roy leads the team to a ring he is at the level of Walton. Right now my top five Blazers of all-time goes like this:

1. Bill Walton
2. Clyde Drexler
3. Terry Porter
4. Brandon Roy
5. Sabonis (People will not like this, but look at the numbers)

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Rk            Player  Season Age  Tm  Lg    G   MP   FG  FGA   3P  3PA   FT  FTA  ORB  DRB  TRB  AST  STL  BLK  TOV   PF  PTS  FG%  3P%  FT%  PER
1      Clyde Drexler 1987-88  25 POR NBA   81 3060  849 1679   11   52  476  587  261  272  533  467  203   52  236  250 2185 .506 .212 .811 24.1
2      Clyde Drexler 1988-89  26 POR NBA   78 3064  829 1672   27  104  438  548  289  326  615  450  213   54  250  269 2123 .496 .260 .799 23.6
3       Sidney Wicks 1972-73  23 POR NBA   80 3152  761 1684            384  531            870  440                 253 1906 .452      .723 20.3
4      Clyde Drexler 1991-92  29 POR NBA   76 2751  694 1476  114  338  401  505  166  334  500  512  138   70  240  229 1903 .470 .337 .794 23.6
5      Clyde Drexler 1986-87  24 POR NBA   82 3114  707 1408   11   47  357  470  227  291  518  566  204   71  253  281 1782 .502 .234 .760 20.2
6      Clyde Drexler 1990-91  28 POR NBA   82 2852  645 1338   61  191  416  524  212  334  546  493  144   60  232  226 1767 .482 .319 .794 22.1
7        Brandon Roy 2008-09  24 POR NBA   78 2903  633 1318   83  220  416  505  104  266  370  400   88   22  153  127 1765 .480 .377 .824 24.0
8         Jim Paxson 1982-83  25 POR NBA   81 2740  682 1323    4   25  388  478   68  106  174  231  140   17  156  160 1756 .515 .160 .812 20.1
9      Clyde Drexler 1989-90  27 POR NBA   73 2683  670 1357   30  106  333  430  208  299  507  432  145   51  191  222 1703 .494 .283 .774 22.2
10     Zach Randolph 2006-07  25 POR NBA   68 2425  600 1286   14   48  394  481  199  489  688  147   53   15  215  184 1608 .467 .292 .819 22.8
11   Rasheed Wallace 2000-01  26 POR NBA   77 2940  590 1178   52  162  245  320  147  455  602  212   90  135  158  206 1477 .501 .321 .766 20.9
12      Terry Porter 1989-90  26 POR NBA   80 2781  448  969   89  238  421  472   59  213  272  726  151    4  245  150 1406 .462 .374 .892 20.0
13      Terry Porter 1990-91  27 POR NBA   81 2665  486  944  130  313  279  339   52  230  282  649  158   12  189  151 1381 .515 .415 .823 21.7
14    Rod Strickland 1994-95  28 POR NBA   64 2267  441  946   46  123  283  380   73  244  317  562  123    9  209  118 1211 .466 .374 .745 21.6
15       Bill Walton 1976-77  24 POR NBA   65 2264  491  930            228  327  211  723  934  245   66  211       174 1210 .528      .697 22.9
16   Arvydas Sabonis 1997-98  33 POR NBA   73 2333  407  826   30  115  323  405  149  580  729  218   65   80  190  267 1167 .493 .261 .798 20.9
17   Arvydas Sabonis 1995-96  31 POR NBA   73 1735  394  723   39  104  231  305  147  441  588  130   64   78  154  211 1058 .545 .375 .757 24.7
18   Arvydas Sabonis 1996-97  32 POR NBA   69 1762  328  658   49  132  223  287  114  433  547  146   63   84  151  203  928 .498 .371 .777 21.8
19   Arvydas Sabonis 1999-00  35 POR NBA   66 1688  302  598    7   19  167  198   97  416  513  118   43   78   97  184  778 .505 .368 .843 20.3
20   Arvydas Sabonis 2002-03  38 POR NBA   78 1209  172  361    3    6  129  164   88  247  335  142   61   49   75  141  476 .476 .500 .787 20.5
 
Sug said:
If B-Roy leads the team to a ring he is at the level of Walton. Right now my top five Blazers of all-time goes like this:

1. Bill Walton
2. Clyde Drexler
3. Terry Porter
4. Brandon Roy
5. Sabonis (People will not like this, but look at the numbers)
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I'd put Roy ahead of Porter. Porter has, of course, the longer career...but that doesn't worry me very much for a young superstar who still has his career ahead of him. If Roy's career ended now, he wouldn't belong so high up the rankings but I don't expect that, obviously. His talent level is near the level of Drexler, IMO, and I consider Drexler to be somewhere in the best 20-25 players ever.

Sabonis could be top-five. I think Rasheed Wallace and Maurice Lucas are also contenders for the 5 spot. I expect Aldridge to surpass all three, though. And, hopefully, Oden will surpass all three and Aldridge (and maybe even Roy, but that will be harder).
 
Minstrel said:
Sabonis could be top-five. I think Rasheed Wallace and Maurice Lucas are also contenders for the 5 spot. I expect Aldridge to surpass all three, though. And, hopefully, Oden will surpass all three and Aldridge (and maybe even Roy, but that will be harder).
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Sheed was a tough one, he would be 6th on my list right now. I agree with you that Aldridge will pass Sheed as a Blazer. Oden is still a mystery in my book, but I am happy with what he did last year.
 
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