Rumor Bucks Shopping Monroe "hard"

[Blazinaway]

So who is the perfect player to start next to Monroe? What type of power forward?

An Ibaka type

 

[craigehlo]

Monroe isn't a C, so let's put that to rest unless it's a rare small lineup. You pair him with Mahinmi or Biyombo at C and you have a top 5 starting lineup in the West.

Monroe a legit post threat to command a double in the post for open 3s. He actually had more FT attempts this season than LaMarcus and shoots 75% at the stripe.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So would we get bird rights if we did trade for him?

I posted above, I'm pretty sure we don't. So I'd probably actually rather carry cap space into the season for the potential of a deadline deal rather than trade cap-space for Monroe.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

So would a low post scorer, and a guy who could stretch the defense a bit too

Do we have enough to land him via trade (without giving up something that would hurt) and Horford?

I think this could be done. Trade Davis for him; that would cost about 10 million in cap space. After renouncing Roberts, Henderson and Kaman we would have 24 million minus the 10 million equals 14 million. Need to renounce Harkless then, adds another 9 million, so that's 23 million to sign Horford. Get rid of Montero and Alexander brings to 25 million which you have to hope he would go for just to keep the team his going to strong. Or trade Vonleh which gets you close to 26 million.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think this could be done. Trade Davis for him; that would cost about 10 million in cap space. After renouncing Roberts, Henderson and Kaman we would have 24 million minus the 10 million equals 14 million. Need to renounce Harkless then, adds another 9 million, so that's 23 million to sign Horford. Get rid of Montero and Alexander brings to 25 million which you have to hope he would go for just to keep the team his going to strong. Or trade Vonleh which gets you close to 26 million.

Horford fits with everyone. So if we got AH I am not sure Monroe is a need.

 

[BigGameDamian]

No interest from me.

That is until he is already on the team and you have no choice.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Horford fits with everyone. So if we got AH I am not sure Monroe is a need.

I would ask Horford first; if he wanted him, then go for it.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Monroe is making $17,100,000 next season, so if we could dump a little salary maybe we'd have enough space left over to absorb some salary on another trade. We're supposed to have around $25ish million in space. I'd offer up Davis/Vonleh/Cleveland pick for Millsap. That gives them a young replacement in Davis and clears around $8 million off their cap.

This is the part that got my attention. Monroe is pretty meh to me, but I'd love to add Millsap. He's the kind of two way player we need to add to take this team to the next level. If ATL loses Horford and decides to blow it up, do you think that would be enough to pry away Millsap? BOS has a lot more to offer, but they may be focused on bigger names and may miss out on a chance to land Millsap. No matter who else we get, I'd love to see Neil swoop in and steal Millsap.

Given that Durant isn't likely, my top four targets this summer would be:

Al Horford - two way player that can score and defend both inside and outside. One of the best in the business defending the pick-and-roll.
Jimmy Butler - another two way player who is a lock down perimeter defender with enough size to play the 3 alongside Dame and C.J.
Paul Millsap - yet another way player who is a top 5 defender, only player to finish in the top 10 in both BLKs and STLs.
Hassan Whiteside - great rim protector, with a limited, but efficient offensive game. Red flags about his attitude, but worth the gamble.

Get me any one of those guys and I'll be ecstatic. Get me two of them, and I'll go all Kingspeed and start planning the parade route.

BNM

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I think this could be done. Trade Davis for him; that would cost about 10 million in cap space. After renouncing Roberts, Henderson and Kaman we would have 24 million minus the 10 million equals 14 million. Need to renounce Harkless then, adds another 9 million, so that's 23 million to sign Horford. Get rid of Montero and Alexander brings to 25 million which you have to hope he would go for just to keep the team his going to strong. Or trade Vonleh which gets you close to 26 million.

To replace Harkless, would go for Zipser in the draft.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is the part that got my attention. Monroe is pretty meh to me, but I'd love to add Millsap. He's the kind of two way player we need to add to take this team to the next level. If ATL loses Horford and decides to blow it up, do you think that would be enough to pry away Millsap? BOS has a lot more to offer, but they may be focused on bigger names and may miss out on a chance to land Millsap. No matter who else we get, I'd love to see Neil swoop in and steal Millsap.

Given that Durant isn't likely, my top four targets this summer would be:

Al Horford - two way player that can score and defend both inside and outside. One of the best in the business defending the pick-and-roll.
Jimmy Butler - another two way player who is a lock down perimeter defender with enough size to play the 3 alongside Dame and C.J.
Paul Millsap - yet another way player who is a top 5 defender, only player to finish in the top 10 in both BLKs and STLs.
Hassan Whiteside - great rim protector, with a limited, but efficient offensive game. Red flags about his attitude, but worth the gamble.

Get me any one of those guys and I'll be ecstatic. Get me two of them, and I'll go all Kingspeed and start planning the parade route.

BNM

Well, that's why I'm wondering if maybe Neil might use the cap space for trades instead of trying to lure a big name guy. Could he chop up our space paired with players to get two key front court guys?

 

[Natebishop3]

I posted above, I'm pretty sure we don't. So I'd probably actually rather carry cap space into the season for the potential of a deadline deal rather than trade cap-space for Monroe.

Why would Milwaukee do that? I can't imagine signing a key guy and not giving yourself bird rights.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why would Milwaukee do that? I can't imagine signing a key guy and not giving yourself bird rights.

Never mind--I misunderstood the notion of early bird rights, which you get after two years. So we wouldn't have full 3 year bird rights, but we'd have early bird rights (as Milwaukee will), which is more than sufficient for anything Monroe would be worth.

 

[Natebishop3]

Okay, so scenario #2.

Durant leaves OKC (doesn't matter where he signs)

We trade for Monroe (capspace + pick)

Go after Ibaka. He's making chicken scratch. Something like $13 million per year. I'd actually prefer Millsap though.

 

[Natebishop3]

Monroe isn't a C, so let's put that to rest unless it's a rare small lineup. You pair him with Mahinmi or Biyombo at C and you have a top 5 starting lineup in the West.

Monroe a legit post threat to command a double in the post for open 3s. He actually had more FT attempts this season than LaMarcus and shoots 75% at the stripe.

The Pistons tried that. He plays better as a center. He and Drummond could not play together. They both played significantly better apart.

 

[BonesJones]

Let's stop with the Monroe crap pleasssssse

 

[RR7]

I dunno if I would even want him for pure cap space. I feel they'd need to pay me to take him on. Maybe some other team would, and then so be it. But no chance am I moving Plumlee, Davis, 2nds, anything for him.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I dunno if I would even want him for pure cap space. I feel they'd need to pay me to take him on. Maybe some other team would, and then so be it. But no chance am I moving Plumlee, Davis, 2nds, anything for him.

I was thinking this as well until I saw that he only has one year left on his contract. (assuming he opts out)
And at only 17 mil it is not a big hit on their salary cap. At the very least they can dump him at the trade deadline.

 

[Natebishop3]

I dunno if I would even want him for pure cap space. I feel they'd need to pay me to take him on. Maybe some other team would, and then so be it. But no chance am I moving Plumlee, Davis, 2nds, anything for him.

I agree that I wouldn't want to move any assets for him, but if it came down to Monroe for cap space, or lose the cap space and get nothing, I'm going to take Monroe.

I trust in Stotts to find a way to work him into the offense. Guys seem to come in and play their best under Terry.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Also, with his passing ability, along with Plumlee's, we'd have one of the best passing frontcourts around.

 

[Natebishop3]

It would be funny if we cashed in our cap space before free agency even started.

Trade for Monroe. Trade for Millsap. Done.

 

[Pinwheel1]

It would be funny if we cashed in our cap space before free agency even started.

Trade for Monroe. Trade for Millsap. Done.

Two birds in the hand....I can live with that.

 

[Natebishop3]

Two birds in the hand....I can live with that.

If the final outcome was Monroe/Millsap and we keep Crabbe/Harkless, I would call that a solid summer.

Dame
CJ
Aminu
Millsap
Monroe

with Crabbe, Harkless, and then whatever we have left from trading for Millsap. I'm hoping we can still snag a decent backup point guard.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It would be funny if we cashed in our cap space before free agency even started.

Funny how? Funny like a clown?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If the final outcome was Monroe/Millsap and we keep Crabbe/Harkless, I would call that a solid summer.

Dame
CJ
Aminu
Millsap
Monroe

with Crabbe, Harkless, and then whatever we have left from trading for Millsap. I'm hoping we can still snag a decent backup point guard.

Not that I see this happening but Aminu would definitely be gone in your scenario.

 

[Natebishop3]

Funny how? Funny like a clown?

Funny like.... all that build up over having cap space and we end up using it all before it even gets started. Ironic funny.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Also, with his passing ability, along with Plumlee's, we'd have one of the best passing frontcourts around.

One that would've been good in about 1996.

 

[Natebishop3]

One that would've been good in about 1996.

I loved 1996! That was a good year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Absolutely, but that's why he's gettable at all. There are plenty of examples of guys who had potential, but didn't put it together until their 3rd team.

And even more who never do.

He is what he is. A lumbering low post scorer of the kind that gets relegated to the bench the minute the playoffs start.

 

[dviss1]

The big problem isn't Monroe guarding PFs, the problem is with Meyers and Monroe, we'd have the worst pick-and-roll defense in the league. Meyers is good at bodying up (and pissing off) big men down low, but doesn't have the lateral foot speed to defend the pick-and-roll. Monroe doesn't protect the rim well, or defend the pick and roll well. Combine those two with Dame and C.J. on the perimeter and teams would pick us apart in the pick-and-roll.

BNM

Horford and Milsap FTW.

 

[Natebishop3]

Horford and Milsap FTW.

Dare to dream.