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Rastapopoulos said:
Remember that game in Ant's rookie year when he was basically our only PG and we were tanking, and he led a huge comeback to beat Sacramento? He could do that because he was already a polished scorer. Scoot isn't. Scoot looks like he grew up in a country that didn't play basketball and has only recently discovered it because somebody told him he has athletic gifts. Scoot's handle just looks much more shaky than Ant's ever was. (Ant and Shaedon were pretty similar - both had several polished skills, they just didn't know the NBA team game. Nobody should ever use the word "polished" about any aspect of Scoot's game.)

Again I'm reminded of Jalen Suggs. Like Scoot he looks more of a football player, and if he contributes it's more because of hustle and determination than refined game.
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Saying we were "tanking" is really weird and misleading. We had home court rapped up and went onto the WCF. We did sit most of our rotation players and Ant got a chance to be the guy and scored 37 got 9 assists in 48 minutes.

Saying that Scoot isn't someone who could do that in three and a half months might be premature. I realize it wasn't close to as efficient but Scoot just put up 33 points and 9 assists in 40 minutes.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Of all the skills that a point guard needs to possess, making a layup seems like the easiest deficiency to improve over time. Not worried in the slightest about that.

If he was slow, weak, had poor court vision, horrendous ball-handling skills, or a shot like Evan Turner, then I would be worried. But finishing in traffic at the rim is not a skill that is hard to improve. He just has not adjusted to the next level of competition.....yet.

This might not be completely comparable as Clyde was not a point guard, but I remember how much Clyde improved after his first year in the NBA. It was night and day. And he was 21 when he was drafted and had played 96 games in college.
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Clyde his rookie year was a bull in a China closet. Ramsey and Clyde would bump heads about Clyde putting his head down on a drive.
 
FlashWad said:
I hope I’m wrong but every game I see more of scoot the lower and lower I am on him. Granted we have a horrible coach and he seems unsure of his role but I’ve never seen an nba player miss so many layups.
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This is where I am at as well.

I’m firmly in the boat that he’s not a bust - however…

He’s been the most frustrating Blazer to watch since Oden.

Flashes of dominance and then back into
a major regression.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
This is where I am at as well.

I’m firmly in the boat that he’s not a bust - however…

He’s been the most frustrating Blazer to watch since Oden.

Flashes of dominance and then back into
a major regression.
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He's not showing consistency. Not too worried, but he sometimes looks like someone who still thinks he's faster and stronger than everyone else
 
blazerkor said:
Saying we were "tanking" is really weird and misleading. We had home court rapped up and went onto the WCF. We did sit most of our rotation players and Ant got a chance to be the guy and scored 37 got 9 assists in 48 minutes.
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I remember now: we wanted to lose so that we wouldn't get matched up with... the team we ended up getting matched up with. So not "tanking" in the trad. sense, but definitely not trying to win.
 
I guess the way I feel is that, unlike both Ant and Shae, who even as rookies could have stretches where you thought "holy shit, that's amazing!" and who always had smooth-as-butter jump shots, he always looks like a bull in a china shop. Now, some great players always look kind of graceless (Tim Duncan - amazing player, but not "smooth"), so I guess he could end up like that. But if someone forced me to bet, I'd bet against it.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I guess the way I feel is that, unlike both Ant and Shae, who even as rookies could have stretches where you thought "holy shit, that's amazing!" and who always had smooth-as-butter jump shots, he always looks like a bull in a china shop. Now, some great players always look kind of graceless (Tim Duncan - amazing player, but not "smooth"), so I guess he could end up like that. But if someone forced me to bet, I'd bet against it.
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A stretch implies more than one game. How many games did Simons have as a rookie where you thought "holy shit that's amazing?"
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Remember that game in Ant's rookie year when he was basically our only PG and we were tanking, and he led a huge comeback to beat Sacramento? He could do that because he was already a polished scorer. Scoot isn't. Scoot looks like he grew up in a country that didn't play basketball and has only recently discovered it because somebody told him he has athletic gifts. Scoot's handle just looks much more shaky than Ant's ever was. (Ant and Shaedon were pretty similar - both had several polished skills, they just didn't know the NBA team game. Nobody should ever use the word "polished" about any aspect of Scoot's game.)

Again I'm reminded of Jalen Suggs. Like Scoot he looks more of a football player, and if he contributes it's more because of hustle and determination than refined game.
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Wasn't that around the time Ant had the worst PER in NBA history?
 
Natebishop3 said:
A stretch implies more than one game. How many games did Simons have as a rookie where you thought "holy shit that's amazing?"
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Zero.

I don’t remember him showing much at all his rookie year. I also remember midway through CJ’s 2nd year I was wanting him traded.

I’ve gained more reason as I’ve gotten older and watched more hoops and realized that players blossom differently.
 
THE HCP said:
I think you are missing the point son. He’s just sharing how being a rookie PG can be a bitch.
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Yea and I think you’re missing the point, champ!

It is VERY rare for someone to be as bad as Scoot has been so far to become an all-star or all-nba level talent… no matter how difficult it is to be a rookie PG.
 
That’s not to say Scoot can’t or won’t turn it around - just that’ll be a pretty unprecedented leap that he will have to make.
 
Predator said:
Yea and I think you’re missing the point, champ!

It is VERY rare for someone to be as bad as Scoot has been so far to become an all-star or all-nba level talent… no matter how difficult it is to be a rookie PG.
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Who the fuck expected him to be an all star?
 
Damn. Anti-Scooters are almost as dumb as Trumpers. I ain’t even know if Scoot will be dumb but you so stuck in that rut so hard, you running as hard for dumbest people I have ever read.

I’d like to see the correlation. Just BTW. Someone run that poll.
 
I’m not even…. I don’t even care…. Scoot might be a bust. I don’t care. That some of you folks are writing him off today…. see my earlier post about PG’s like Nash, Kidd, etc. Just so ignorant and dumb. But you folks keep proving ya self as much…
 
Steve Nash didn’t average double-digit points until his age-26 season.

RW shot just under .400 as a rookie at 20.

Jason Kidd entered the L at 21 and still shot 38.5%.

all 3 will be hof pg’s and I’d take whatever any of them did as a replica of Scoot’s career.
 
THE HCP said:
Who the fuck expected him to be an all star?
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Go back to the pre-draft thread and take a look.

(And I didn’t mean all-star this season)

Also, in general, when you’re drafting in the top 3-5… you’re looking for stars… not role players
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
Steve Nash didn’t average double-digit points until his age-26 season.

RW shot just under .400 as a rookie at 20.

Jason Kidd entered the L at 21 and still shot 38.5%.

all 3 will be hof pg’s and I’d take whatever any of them did as a replica of Scoot’s career.
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Were any of them as bad as Scoot has been so far as a rookie?

Like I said, he may become an all-star or all-nba player … but it’ll be a pretty unprecedented jump.

 
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