Bust a Scoot?

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OneSport3 said:
I would say he looked worse. Outside of some highlight dunks, he looked absolutely lost on both ends of the court. Really didn’t see the glimpses until the end of the season when the full tank was on.
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We also just had him sitting on the three point line watching the show. Every once in a while he'd sneak in a putback dunk or a lob.
 
He’d benefit if he came off the bench for the first half of the season.

No shame playing behind Brogdon.
 
Scoot can use some screens then used that nice floater of his. Not sure why he’s so scared of attacking the paint.
 
I always found it a bit prematurely optimistic to anoint Scoot before he even played. That's why the Dame for Scoot pivot didn't excite me. He was unknown. My fear was always centered on the downside of rolling the dice.

I'm not stoked with what we've seen so far, but at this point, what is there to do but cheer the kid on like crazy and hope he becomes something huge?
This could absolutely be nerves. It could be coaching. It could be horrible luck. Gotta just cross our fingers that it's temporary.

Hoping his mental resilience is off the charts high. That's the real trait I'm looking for at this point.
 
Stevenson said:
Wemby tonight:

11 points, shooting 4-10, missed both three-point attempts, 2 assists, 5 turnovers.

Enough everyone.
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Devils advocate, but Wemby has shown plenty of flashes of why he was #1. I think people would be a lot more reasonable if Scoot was giving us some flashes of greatness to go with all the rookie mistakes. But he has pretty much been god awful in all three regular season games.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Devils advocate, but Wemby has shown plenty of flashes of why he was #1. I think people would be a lot more reasonable if Scoot was giving us some flashes of greatness to go with all the rookie mistakes. But he has pretty much been god awful in all three regular season games.
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so glad blazers drafted scoot #1 and passed over wemby at #1
 
For those of you who said that Scoot's speed had been exaggerated and that he wasn't fast like Wall or Rose. I hope you were watching the two plays he scored on today. Everyone else on the floor looked like they were standing still. This dude is fast fast fast. Now he doesn't know how to use that speed yet but I think he will learn.

For those of you trying to compare what Shaedon was doing last season to what we're seeing from Scoot, I want to again say that Shaedon got the ball when he was left all alone either in the corner or cutting to the hoop, where he was found by legitimate NBA teammates. Scoot is being asked to run an NBA offense at the beginning of every game and only gets a few minutes a game to try and be as invisible as what allowed Shae to do what he did until the very end of last season.

Let's give Scoot some time. He's lightning fast, he has a nice handle, he has really good court vision, has a great attitude and is a Westbrook level monster of a PG physically.
 
TYDame said:
Scoot can use some screens then used that nice floater of his. Not sure why he’s so scared of attacking the paint.
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Which is what he does. Or at least he used to. That has been his game.
He also made some terrific passes in summer league when it looked like he had no where to go, surrounded by defenders.
 
FlashWad said:
Sharpe showed us glimpses of greatness, even if it was just his high flying ability. Scoot has shown absolutely nothing. Many of us are getting antsy waiting for him to show us ANYTHING…
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79 more chances to go, though I now think he shouldn't be starting until he gives us a few good performances in more controlled matchups.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I just want to remind people how lost Shaedon looked at the start of last year. One year later and he looks legit.
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Sharpe didn't look as lost; he had 9 double-digit scoring games in his first 15. Of course, he wasn't carrying the same burden Scoot is supposed to be carrying

I agree it's way early....as in several months and 50-60 games too early...to be reaching any conclusions

but it's the reality that after 3 games, Scoot is 10-30 on FG's (33%); 1-12 on three's (8.3%); and has 9 assists vs 13 turnovers. He's also been bad defensively and has 12 PF's in the 3 games. He's really struggling so far
 
wizenheimer said:
Sharpe didn't look as lost; he had 9 double-digit scoring games in his first 15. Of course, he wasn't carrying the same burden Scoot is supposed to be carrying

I agree it's way early....as in several months and 50-60 games too early...to be reaching any conclusions

but it's the reality that after 3 games, Scoot is 10-30 on FG's (33%); 1-12 on three's (8.3%); and has 9 assists vs 13 turnovers. He's also been bad defensively and has 12 PF's in the 3 games. He's really struggling so far
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Shaedon could shoot threes. Scoot cannot.

Shae also had Dame. Scoot does not.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Shaedon could shoot threes. Scoot cannot.

Shae also had Dame. Scoot does not.
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that doesn't make much sense to me. Are you saying that if Scoot was playing with Dame he'd be playing better? even though both are PG's? like Brogdon and Scoot are?

as for Scoot's perimeter shooting...yes, that was the biggest concern before the draft. It looked like it could be a real flaw that would limit Scoot's impact. A PG doesn't have to be a deadly 3 point shooter, but he needs to at least be a threat so defenders won't sag way off him and take away driving and passing lanes. That's what is happening to Scoot
 
wizenheimer said:
that doesn't make much sense to me. Are you saying that if Scoot was playing with Dame he'd be playing better? even though both are PG's? like Brogdon and Scoot are?

as for Scoot's perimeter shooting...yes, that was the biggest concern before the draft. It looked like it could be a real flaw that would limit Scoot's impact. A PG doesn't have to be a deadly 3 point shooter, but he needs to at least be a threat so defenders won't sag way off him and take away driving and passing lanes. That's what is happening to Scoot
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I think if Dame was still here, Scoot would be coming off the bench and the expectations would be much less. I also think that Dame would have opened things up. Grant played a lot better with Dame. Having Lillard here would have given Scoot some time to adjust.
 
I will say this, i have a lot of patience with Scoot, he's our PG of the future, hopefully. I do think Shaedon looked better in his first NBA games than Scoot does so far, Shaedon showed potential and i remember he still scored double digits even though he looked bad. Scoot hasn't shown anything yet, i mean, give me just something, passing, speed, attacking the rim, just something
 
And i think Grant, Brogdon and Simons have to go. Give the keys to Scoot, Shaedon and Ayton
 
Labinot41 said:
I will say this, i have a lot of patience with Scoot, he's our PG of the future, hopefully. I do think Shaedon looked better in his first NBA games than Scoot does so far, Shaedon showed potential and i remember he still scored double digits even though he looked bad. Scoot hasn't shown anything yet, i mean, give me just something, passing, speed, attacking the rim, just something
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Scoot attacked the rim… and then got blocked or an offensive foul. He did get one layup and one dunk.
 
I'm less concerned about Scoot being as good as Dame was (I don't think he'll be as good as him) than I am concerned about Shaedons growth.

I think the best player on the team going forward will be Shaedon (not necessarily this year, but going forward).

He just has "it".
 
julius said:
I'm less concerned about Scoot being as good as Dame was (I don't think he'll be as good as him) than I am concerned about Shaedons growth.

I think the best player on the team going forward will be Shaedon (not necessarily this year, but going forward).

He just has "it".
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Even after drafting Scoot, I have felt that Shae has the most superstar potential. But I think Scoot can be the heart of the team. Shae can be the one who takes over for Dame as the star. The 30 ppg guy. I want Scoot to be the 20 and 10 guy.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Even after drafting Scoot, I have felt that Shae has the most superstar potential. But I think Scoot can be the heart of the team. Shae can be the one who takes over for Dame as the star. The 30 ppg guy. I want Scoot to be the 20 and 10 guy.
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I agree about Shaedon, I think he eventually could be like a Kobe Bryant type player (not saying he's the next Kobe). I think Scoot could be a 16-7 guy. Nothing to sneeze at, but he needs to be more of a distributor and a threat on offense. Right now he's neither.
 
julius said:
I agree about Shaedon, I think he eventually could be like a Kobe Bryant type player (not saying he's the next Kobe). I think Scoot could be a 16-7 guy. Nothing to sneeze at, but he needs to be more of a distributor and a threat on offense. Right now he's neither.
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If Scoot ends up only being a 16 and 7 guy, he will be a bust imo. If he never hits 9 or 10 assists in his career I’m going to be disappointed.
 
To me, I was hoping Scoot would be playing better, but it is still way to early to tell if he is a bust. He is young and there is still growth/potential. Better to think of him as an underclassmen in college. What I do know that is a bust is our starting forwards, that shit needs to go ASAP. Grant/Thybulle pairing is a big fat nothing burger. From what I can tell Ant and Grant were going to be the #1A/1B options and with Ant out, Grant is the defacto #1 and watching him go 1 on 1 or even 1 on 2 or 3 and dribbles off a foot or gets picked is a frick'n eye sore. Grant should never be the focal point of an offense and Thybulle at best is a defensive specialist off the bench. Maybe have Camara start, he at least is a threat to shoot and score, this might even open things up for Scoot.
 
Quatro44 said:
To me, I was hoping Scoot would be playing better, but it is still way to early to tell if he is a bust. He is young and there is still growth/potential. Better to think of him as an underclassmen in college. What I do know that is a bust is our starting forwards, that shit needs to go ASAP. Grant/Thybulle pairing is a big fat nothing burger. From what I can tell Ant and Grant were going to be the #1A/1B options and with Ant out, Grant is the defacto #1 and watching him go 1 on 1 or even 1 on 2 or 3 and dribbles off a foot or gets picked is a frick'n eye sore. Grant should never be the focal point of an offense and Thybulle at best is a defensive specialist off the bench. Maybe have Camara start, he at least is a threat to shoot and score, this might even open things up for Scoot.
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Sharpe should be 1A to me.
 
Predator said:
I posted his dunk stats once and got torn apart for "hating Scoot".

He missed a surprising amount of dunks for someone who is supposedly a "D-Rose level athlete".
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Just admit it already.
You Hate Scoot Henderson!
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
in the lead-up to the draft, there’s no discussion about who you take at #3. not saying that’s how the draft plays out over 10-15 years, but there was nobody else based on what’s known in June 2023 that should be taken #3 if Wemby and Miller are gone.
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BUT... HINDSIGHT IS 20/20! I HONKED ONCE! REEEEEEEE!
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think if Dame was still here, Scoot would be coming off the bench and the expectations would be much less. I also think that Dame would have opened things up. Grant played a lot better with Dame. Having Lillard here would have given Scoot some time to adjust.
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ok...I see where you're coming from

and sure, the 'baptism-of-fire' for Scoot may not be the best thing for him. Maybe having less responsibility by coming off the bench to begin his career would have been better. And Dame may have been a better mentor than Brogdon; although I'd think mentoring Scoot should fall under Chauncey's duties but I'm seriously doubting Chauncey right now in a lot of ways

Scoot has a lot to overcome. He's too young and inexperienced to be consistent as a starter at PG in the NBA. Last night he was trying to attack Maxey-Melton-Beverly with Embiid lurking. And teams are sagging way off of him while going under screens; taking away driving and passing lanes while daring him to shoot from 18 feet or more. That also takes away his mid-range game at the same time it negates his speed. That's what every team will do until Scoot can make them pay by hitting those shots with some consistency....and I don't know that Scoot is capable of that right now
 
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