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Of course. But let’s get real. Young guys get with older vets all the time in the offseason to help them work on deficiencies. They get with coaches and mentors to help them improve the team. teams hire specific coaches to help their players in this regard as well.
The kids is 19 and learning the nba ropes.
Give him time.

This is like saying Ant sucks at D why? Why hasn’t he fixed it?
But yet I e heard over and over how we should hire defensive coaches to help. Why? Why isn’t it the players responsibility to figure it out?

there are coaches and trainers for a reason.
Again. Give him time.

I certainly wouldn't blame Ant's defensive short-comings on his current or previous coaches. In my opinion, professional athletes are ultimately responsible for their game. This includes Scoot's ability to shoot. If he's unhappy with his shot, he needs to vet/acquire his own shooting coach, and put in the work.
 
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But shooting can be improved through repetition without others involvement required other than coaching staff evaluating and recommending.
Drills finishing at the rim are so much harder to replicate in practice. I think you have it backwards. :)

I have seen so many guys who shot threes for hours and it never translated to actual games.

It's between their ears.
 
I certainly wouldn't blame Ant's defensive short-comings on his current or previous coaches. In my opinion, professional athletes are ultimately reasonable for their game. This includes Scoot's ability to shoot. If he's unhappy with his shot, he needs to vet/acquire his own shooting coach, and put in the work.

Ignite pays 19yr olds that kind of money to do so? Highschool ball pays that kind of money to do so? He has been on an nba salary for how long now? How do we know he isn’t in the middle of doing this now?
I think you guys are asking too much of 16-19 yr old.
Don’t the vets demand 5-6 figures for some summer work?
Don’t nba summer workshops cost a lot of money?

What you just said seems very unrealistic at his age to me.

Again. Give him some time.
 
I have seen so many guys who shot threes for hours and it never translated to actual games.

It's between their ears.

Fair enough, but would you not agree it’s easier to get shot reps than it is to create layup drills replicating real games?
 
Fair enough, but would you not agree it’s easier to get shot reps than it is to create layup drills replicating real games?

Well, firstly, working on your left hand isn't really any harder than putting up shots. There's dribbling drills that he can run over and over and over.

Working on layups is just about being comfortable, which I have no idea how long that could take. But guys have way too much time to think about shooting threes during a game. That's where the psychology comes in.
 
As much as we've heard about his drive and work ethic, it baffles me that his left hand is so useless.
All he has is that righty hard drive under the basket reverse layup (that gets stuffed, a lot). That's it. He has A LOT of work to do this summer.
 
Can't people just talk ffs? Other than @AldoTrapani people here want Scoot to do well. We're/they're venting, and when he plays better, we'll/they'll vent much less and be much happier and optimistic. Being a fan is frustrating. You've gotta have an outlet.

Edit: I'm not trying to be a dick @AldoTrapani. I have no problem with your position even when I disagree. You're just the perfect example sometimes.

It’s all good! I love to be proven wrong. But the kid sucks. I don’t see the hype at all
 
Ignite pays 19yr olds that kind of money to do so? Highschool ball pays that kind of money to do so? He has been on an nba salary for how long now? How do we know he isn’t in the middle of doing this now?
I think you guys are asking too much of 16-19 yr old.
Don’t the vets demand 5-6 figures for some summer work?
Don’t nba summer workshops cost a lot of money?

What you just said seems very unrealistic at his age to me.

Again. Give him some time.

I never claimed Scoot isn't working on his shot, I'm not calling him lazy, or anything along those lines. I'm not comfortable blaming is lack of shooting on the Ignite coaches; to me that's lazy.

I continue to agree that drawing a conclusion Scoot will be a bad shooter forever is unwise. Obviously it would be great if he had good mechanics and better percentages, but I'm hopeful SCOOT will surround himself with the proper trainers and put in the time to get his shot right. He will get the credit if he does and he will need to own the blame if he doesn't.
 
Reading this thread always makes me laugh. Just watching other bicker about something that likely won’t even be a huge point of contention in like two seasons.

If I’m wrong and it is, I’m glad I didn’t spend two filling up headspace with the mistake we made in drafting him lol. But ultimately, that’s the amount of confidence I have in Scoot based on what I’ve seen from him. Still looks like a legit PG, looking 3pt percentage near 35-36% for a good stretch. He was shooting like 85% from the line for like two months before this little stretch post-New Years.
 
So you're suggesting that he was simply unaware that being able to dribble or make a layup with his left hand would be important skills to have in the NBA? That he never knew because nobody ever told him?
He was good enough right-handed that the need hadn't arisen until he met NBA-caliber defense. And now that he has (arguably) NBA-caliber coaches working with him, I expect to see a steep progression curve.
 
I see Poop Henderson was garbage AGAIN lmao

This guy should have been a late first rounder wtf
 
At this point, anybody that continues to defend Scoot is just a complete and utter moron. You could make a case that he is literally the worst player in the NBA.
 
I could argue that anyone that draws a conclusion on a rookie after half a season is a complete and utter moron.

I've heard variations of this since pre season, first it was the first week then 10 games, 20, 30 ect eventually it will be a full season then two and people might still be saying the same thing. hes been much worse than expected, i doubt he improves his finishing that much. Im hoping he can improve to atleast be an average starter in the nba.
 
Apparently, he's poor at walking & chewing gum at the same time.

That sums up my impression. Little Scooter plays too fast for his talent level. He should play more thoughtfully, like other rookies. An amazing percentage of his hurried passes are off a few inches, ruining whatever he is trying to do. In the rare times something elementary works, he prances, proudly smiles, and pulls at his jersey. He's a conceited high schooler, in over his head.

I watch games for free, so almost always the opposing broadcasters. Usually they start boisterous about him being a high pick, then gradually lower their expectations. Walt Frazier said with fatigue in his voice, he has a lot to learn.

Many start with the cliche that the game must be slowing down for the rookie. I wish I could tell them, it's the reverse. This error machine needs to play more slowly, not faster.

Id put that more on previous coaching staffs. Ignite league team?

So you're suggesting that he was simply unaware that ...he never knew because nobody ever told him?

I certainly wouldn't blame Ant's defensive short-comings on his current or previous coaches. In my opinion, professional athletes are ultimately reasonable for their game.

I'm sure they tried. Maybe he's not uncoachable, just hard to tame, like a wild horse. Eventually he'll be domesticated, but this year, this maniac may be the most error-prone yet self-praising rookie I've ever seen.
 
That sums up my impression. Little Scooter plays too fast for his talent level. He should play more thoughtfully, like other rookies. An amazing percentage of his hurried passes are off a few inches, ruining whatever he is trying to do. In the rare times something elementary works, he prances, proudly smiles, and pulls at his jersey. He's a conceited high schooler, in over his head.

I watch games for free, so almost always the opposing broadcasters. Usually they start boisterous about him being a high pick, then gradually lower their expectations. Walt Frazier said with fatigue in his voice, he has a lot to learn.

Many start with the cliche that the game must be slowing down for the rookie. I wish I could tell them, it's the reverse. This error machine needs to play more slowly, not faster.







I'm sure they tried. Maybe he's not uncoachable, just hard to tame, like a wild horse. Eventually he'll be domesticated, but this year, this maniac may be the most error-prone yet self-praising rookie I've ever seen.

Wow, Scoot’s play brought jlprk out of hibernation and even got a semi-serious post out of him. That’s rough.
 
I've heard variations of this since pre season, first it was the first week then 10 games, 20, 30 ect eventually it will be a full season then two and people might still be saying the same thing. hes been much worse than expected, i doubt he improves his finishing that much. Im hoping he can improve to atleast be an average starter in the nba.

I have said for years, that a young rookie needs 2 years in the league before we really know how good he will be. I still believe it to be true. I get that there is not much else to talk about regarding the Blazers, but let's be honest most of us have no fucking clue how good /bad Scoot will end up being. These daily critiques are ridiculous.
 
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/suggsja01.html

Jalen Suggs had a similarly rough first season. He's a much better player now, albeit a different one than he was projected to be. He went from primary ball handler to now off-ball creator who is really good defensively. Could be Scoot's path as well.

I'm confident Scoot will figure out how to be a good player. Much less confident he's got star potential though. It's very rare for a player to be this poor in their rookie season and turn into a star.
 
Ive noticed that when Scoot shoots he doesn't always lock on the rim visually. With jump shots off screens he catches jumps then looks for the rim. Watch all good shooters they are locked on the rim visually before they motion into jump and shoot.
 
Ive noticed that when Scoot shoots he doesn't always lock on the rim visually. With jump shots off screens he catches jumps then looks for the rim. Watch all good shooters they are locked on the rim visually before they motion into jump and shoot.

He needs to work 100% on his shot this off season. His mechanics are a little off. And while I admit I don't know jack shit about jack squat, I think it's because he's always been stronger and faster than others and could get around people easily, so he didn't *have* to work on it.

His improvement on his 3 point shot is proof he can improve. He struggles with layups a lot tho, which I think skews his shooting % downward a lot. (I don't have proof this is the case btw, so if someone corrects me that's fine).
 
I've heard variations of this since pre season, first it was the first week then 10 games, 20, 30 ect eventually it will be a full season then two and people might still be saying the same thing. hes been much worse than expected, i doubt he improves his finishing that much. Im hoping he can improve to atleast be an average starter in the nba.
Once again, there is that word “expected”……. Curious why somebody would have such high “expectations” for a 19 year old rookie? Sounds like somebody believed the hype and wasn’t being realistic.
 
At this point, anybody that continues to defend Scoot is just a complete and utter moron. You could make a case that he is literally the worst player in the NBA.

Go ahead then, make the case that a guy who is averaging 12 points, shooting 30% from 3 and about 5 assists a game, is "literally the worst player" in the NBA.

I'll take your answer off the air.
 
Go ahead then, make the case that a guy who is averaging 12 points, shooting 30% from 3 and about 5 assists a game, is "literally the worst player" in the NBA.

I'll take your answer off the air.
screw that. Broadcast that shit take to the world so it can be properly dissected and debunked.
 
Ive noticed that when Scoot shoots he doesn't always lock on the rim visually. With jump shots off screens he catches jumps then looks for the rim. Watch all good shooters they are locked on the rim visually before they motion into jump and shoot.
It's kind of the same when he passes, isn't it? :)
 

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