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crandc said:
I can truly guarantee a whispering campaign among evangelicals about Sanders being Jewish.

Trump is the most unpopular president to ever run for re-election. He has a cult of about 35 percent of the population. So his only path is to make his opponent more unpopular. That's what he did four years ago with help from Russia, compliant media, and Comey. It's why Republican senators are now suddenly planning to investigate Burisma, it doesn't matter if they find anything, Trump just needs to constantly repeat Burisma like he did email. The country knows he is corrupt so he has to make people believe there is no difference between him and his opponent, they are all crooked.

So yeah, he will turn a mild democratic socialist into Stalin, Mao, whoever AND he's a Jew.
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Some serious TDS, denial, race-bating, avoidance of facts, and desperation amid those 8 untruthful sentences.

Keep following Rachel, keep avoiding reality.

52% approval - https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ap...ntial-rasmussen-reports/2019/02/11/id/902202/

51% approval - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...lack-hispanic-suburban-voters-has-51-approval
 
crandc said:
Trump has repeatedly told Jewish Americans that Israel is "your country" and Netanyahu "your prime minister". Wrong. It is his way of saying Jewish Americans are not "real" Americans. Maris would I am sure agree.
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Your post is as usual a complete lie, and yet another personal insult to me.

But that's all the Deep State's mentally-vacant puppets can muster anymore.

POTUS TUMP IN A LANDSLIDE 2020! :cheers:
 
crandc said:
Israel is by definition a Jewish state. Agree or disagree, it's a fact. The United States says very specifically in the Constitution that there will be no religious test for public office.

Not comparable.

Trump has repeatedly told Jewish Americans that Israel is "your country" and Netanyahu "your prime minister". Wrong. It is his way of saying Jewish Americans are not "real" Americans. Maris would I am sure agree.
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Crandc, with due respect do you really think he's saying Jewish Americans are not real Americans?
As much as I disagree with the guy and don't like him, I doubt thats what he's saying!
 
Road Ratt said:
People don't seem to understand that Americans actually want their congress to represent America, rather than be beholden to their corporate donors and billionaire friends. This desire transcends political lines.
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Which is why Sanders will have a much harder time defeating the DNC for the primaries then he will Trump in the general.
 
BrianFromWA said:
You're not wrong, he is a Communist-praising, steal-you-everything, free stuff guy. And not, like, in a "sorry, man, 30 years ago I thought differently" thing. In a "doubling down on the campaign trail in 2016" thing.


Giving HRC her due, she responded.



And I say this as an evangelical who is supporting missions to Cuba financially and through helping others go where the U.S. Gov't says I can't.
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Quotes like that one from Hillary that imply Bernie or a government led by Bernie would kill people for expressing their opinions are complete and utter nonsense.
 
crandc said:
Israel is by definition a Jewish state. Agree or disagree, it's a fact.
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That isn’t a license to discriminate against other religions, if anything it’s just blatant prejudice on the part of the Israeli government.
crandc said:
Trump has repeatedly told Jewish Americans that Israel is "your country" and Netanyahu "your prime minister". Wrong. It is his way of saying Jewish Americans are not "real" Americans.
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I don’t think so. Sounds like yet another example of Trump’s poor ability to formulate sentences and get a point across, at worst. Why would he continue (and enhance) the United States’ strict policy of bending over backwards for the Israeli government if he were anti-Semitic? Not that Netanyahu’s government is representative of all Jews by any means, I’ve seen many who speak out against the corruption there. But still, if there were any inkling of anti-semitism from Trump then why wouldn’t he be continue to support Israel so staunchly?
 
jonnyboy said:
Why would he continue (and enhance) the United States’ strict policy of bending over backwards for the Israeli government if he were anti-Semitic?
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Not speaking to Trump directly, but a lot of people who don't have any great liking of Jews, or are even anti-Semitic, strongly favor supporting Israel. It's the levels of "otherness"--Jews may be "other" to them, but Muslims are even more so. When it comes to whether to support Jews or Muslims, it tends to be an easy choice for many who are anti-Semitic but even more strongly anti-Islamic. I personally wouldn't use support for Israel as a proxy for whether someone has no ill feeling towards Jews. For many, it's very much "the enemy of my enemy is my 'friend'."
 
Not sure who would beat whom. I doubt either one of them can throw a decent punch, but Bernie looks especially pathetic:

 
"If Nazi's were so antisemitic, why did they build Auschwitz for the Jews?"

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
Your post is as usual a complete lie, and yet another personal insult to me.

But that's all the Deep State's mentally-vacant puppets can muster anymore.

POTUS TUMP IN A LANDSLIDE 2020! :cheers:
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Which party is Tump in? Must be some sort of an Independent.
 
Bernie wins the first Iowa caucus: Group of meatpackers back him 14-1 with Elizabeth Warren in second as state prepares for full-scale Democratic caucuses tonight with Sanders topping polls
  • Sen. Bernie Sanders is the first 2020 Democratic hopeful who will officially earn delegates in the Iowa caucuses
  • Sanders got the support of 14 of 15 caucus-goers in Ottumwa, who participated in a 'satellite' caucus at noon because of their work schedules
  • The voters were mainly Ethiopian immigrants who work at a nearby pork processing plant
  • One lone participant backed Sen. Elizabeth Warren, though she won't get delegates from this site because she didn't have 15 per cent support
  • Sanders has been leading former Vice President Joe Biden by a hair in the last Iowa polls taken before Monday night's caucuses
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7962459/Bernie-wins-Iowa-caucus-Group-meatpackers-14-1.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Bernie wins the first Iowa caucus: Group of meatpackers back him 14-1 with Elizabeth Warren in second as state prepares for full-scale Democratic caucuses tonight with Sanders topping polls
  • Sen. Bernie Sanders is the first 2020 Democratic hopeful who will officially earn delegates in the Iowa caucuses
  • Sanders got the support of 14 of 15 caucus-goers in Ottumwa, who participated in a 'satellite' caucus at noon because of their work schedules
  • The voters were mainly Ethiopian immigrants who work at a nearby pork processing plant
  • One lone participant backed Sen. Elizabeth Warren, though she won't get delegates from this site because she didn't have 15 per cent support
  • Sanders has been leading former Vice President Joe Biden by a hair in the last Iowa polls taken before Monday night's caucuses
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7962459/Bernie-wins-Iowa-caucus-Group-meatpackers-14-1.html
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Bernie is the new Arby's, he has the meats!
 
If Bernie gets the Ethiopian meatpacker vote, Trump is toast.

barfo
 
donkiez said:
But then who is the cheese?
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C: (deliberately) Have you in fact got any cheese here at all?

O: Yes,sir.

C: Really?

(pause)

O: No. Not really, sir.

C: You haven't.

O: Nosir. Not a scrap. I was deliberately wasting your time,sir.

C: Well I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot you.

O: Right-0, sir.

barfo
 
jonnyboy said:
This anecdote is way off the mark.
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Oh, I don't know. There may be a germ of a cogent thought there somewhere, but I admit I didn't flesh it out well. I blame my employer for distracting me.

barfo
 
Evangelicals, at least some large portion, believe that moving the embassy to Jerusalem is a step in the end times, when about 1/3 of Jews become Christians and the rest exterminated. I mean, I find it hard to see that as pro-Jewish. Basically their position is we should all convert. Also most Jews trend liberal/progressive and are adamantly pro-choice, per Jewish law and our commitment to separation of church and state.
Hoopguru said:
Crandc, with due respect do you really think he's saying Jewish Americans are not real Americans?
As much as I disagree with the guy and don't like him, I doubt thats what he's saying!
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I have not heard him say to Irish Americans that Ireland is their true country or the Irish PM their prime minister. Or Italian Americans. Or tell Japanese Americans the emperor of Japan is their ruler.
He talks about how Jews have to vote for him because of money.
He says he only wants "little guys in yarmulkes" to take care of his money.
He uses "shifty" as epithet for Adam Schiff.
He constantly uses anti-Semitic tropes.

Also figure in Jewish Americans are largely urban, largely college educated, both things "real Americans" are not.
And don't support Trump.
 
crandc said:
Evangelicals, at least some large portion, believe that moving the embassy to Jerusalem is a step in the end times, when about 1/3 of Jews become Christians and the rest exterminated. I mean, I find it hard to see that as pro-Jewish. Basically their position is we should all convert. Also most Jews trend liberal/progressive and are adamantly pro-choice, per Jewish law and our commitment to separation of church and state.


I have not heard him say to Irish Americans that Ireland is their true country or the Irish PM their prime minister. Or Italian Americans. Or tell Japanese Americans the emperor of Japan is their ruler.
He talks about how Jews have to vote for him because of money.
He says he only wants "little guys in yarmulkes" to take care of his money.
He uses "shifty" as epithet for Adam Schiff.
He constantly uses anti-Semitic tropes.

Also figure in Jewish Americans are largely urban, largely college educated, both things "real Americans" are not.
And don't support Trump.
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Comments like the bolded are part of the problem.
Just because certain groups of people take shots at you. Doesnt give you the right to take shots at them.
Be the bigger person or be part of the division.
I say this to you, because those who take shots at you will never change. Hoping you might.
 
H.C. said:
Comments like the bolded are part of the problem.
Just because certain groups of people take shots at you. Doesnt give you the right to take shots at them.
Be the bigger person or be part of the division.
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I don't think crandc was taking shots at Trump supporters. Her point, as I understood it, was that the people that Trump (and, commonly, Republicans in general) refer to as "real Americans" tend not to be those who live in cities and attend universities, but rather those who live in rural communities and work jobs that don't require a university education.

And the reason Republicans lionize that second group of people is because those people tend to be significantly more conservative. If city-dwellers were the conservative ones, they'd be the ones Republicans refer to as "real Americans."
 
Minstrel said:
I don't think crandc was taking shots at Trump supporters. Her point, as I understood it, was that the people that Trump (and, commonly, Republicans in general) refer to as "real Americans" tend not to be those who live in cities and attend universities, but rather those who live in rural communities and work jobs that don't require a university education.

And the reason Republicans lionize that second group of people is because those people tend to be significantly more conservative. If city-dwellers were the conservative ones, they'd be the ones Republicans refer to as "real Americans."
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Trump supporters no?
Americans? Yes.

It's just frustrating to read/hear comments from those who say they want to end division. Those who are stereotyped daily... But then help fester division.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
You cannot combat hate with hate.

P.S. This whole real american/american ploy is utter nonsense. I don't even like using the differentiating terms. As it only fosters division.
 
barfo said:
Oh, I don't know. There may be a germ of a cogent thought there somewhere, but I admit I didn't flesh it out well. I blame my employer for distracting me.

barfo
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You actually work for someone else?
I figured you as self employed a free lance consultant?
 
H.C. said:
Trump supporters no?
Americans? Yes.

It's just frustrating to read/hear comments from those who say they want to end division. Those who are stereotyped daily... But then help fester division.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
You cannot combat hate with hate.

P.S. This whole real american/american ploy is utter nonsense. I don't even like using the differentiating terms. As it only fosters division.
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Bingo
And segregation is now alive and well on campuses. It’s going backwards rather than coming together with some common ground or give and take.
 
H.C. said:
Comments like the bolded are part of the problem.
Just because certain groups of people take shots at you. Doesnt give you the right to take shots at them.
Be the bigger person or be part of the division.
I say this to you, because those who take shots at you will never change. Hoping you might.
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Sorry, but just stating a fact.
"Real America" as defined by Trumpers are white, Christian, straight, not artists, not college educated, don't live in major cities, West coast, New York or Massachusetts. That's not my reality, it's theirs.
 
crandc said:
Sorry, but just stating a fact.
"Real America" as defined by Trumpers are white, Christian, straight, not artists, not college educated, don't live in major cities, West coast, New York or Massachusetts. That's not my reality, it's theirs.
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Ok, now you’re just making shit up.
Could you send me a link to the Trumpers, LLC website so I can read their mission statement with all this crazy shit in it?
I think your own divisiveness is being mistaken for that of others. Or at the very least, you’re doing you’re best to match any prejudices you perceive with more stereotypes and prejudices.
 
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