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*edit: Please don't spam every thread with Joe Biden stuff. This thread is about Sanders versus Trump. Thanks!*
 
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MARIS61 said:
*edit: Please don't spam every thread with Joe Biden stuff. This thread is about Sanders versus Trump. Thanks!*
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Why not? Bernie is unofficially officially out of it and replaced by President Biden. I've got mixed feelings there because I liked Sanders and thought he was a certain winner in a race against Trump but Biden will probably win by an even bigger margin and has policies that are a little easier to get through Congress than Sanders. No, I think Sanders should hang it up.
 
Lanny said:
Why not? Bernie is unofficially officially out of it and replaced by President Biden. I've got mixed feelings there because I liked Sanders and thought he was a certain winner in a race against Trump but Biden will probably win by an even bigger margin and has policies that are a little easier to get through Congress than Sanders. No, I think Sanders should hang it up.
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Biden will beat Trump but no way Sanders would beat Trump in Southeast, South, Midwest and a couple eastern / western states.
They don't buy his democratic socialism, thats pretty obvious now.
 
andalusian said:
Benghazi, Covid-19, Pearl Harbor. Depends who Russia has at the controls of the mind-control machine.
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Replace Benghazi or email gate with Hunter Biden and that is what the next 8 months will be like, longer if Biden loses.
 
FWIW.....

https://thedispatch.com/p/how-bernies-2020-struggles-can-be

...................After last night's margins, Sanders no longer has a realistic path to the nomination. So far, he has blamed the “corporate media,” the “Democratic establishment,” and former candidates Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, and Amy Klobuchar who all endorsed Biden.

But maybe the explanation is a lot simpler: Perhaps Bernie Sanders won 23 contests last time around because, as the New York Times wrote, “Hillary Clinton was an unusually unpopular candidate, surpassed only by Mr. Trump in this regard in the modern era of polling.”

And that means, like Sanders, President Trump’s surprise election may have been more of a reflection of Clinton's unpopularity too—meaning the movement that the GOP has embraced for the last three years may not be as strong as it appeared in 2016 either.

We may never know for sure, but there is some evidence in the numbers. Ahead of being re-elected to a second term, Obama, Bush, and Bill Clinton all had a net positive approval rating at this point in their presidencies. Trump's disapproval rating is more than 10 points higher than his approval rating—as it has been consistently through the last three years. And it’s worth noting that Democrats took control of the House of Representatives in 2018 with the largest margin of victory in history for a midterm election.

Hillary Clinton was the first woman ever to secure a major party’s nomination. She won the popular vote by almost 3 million more votes than Trump. But on Election Day, more than half the country had an unfavorable view of her—double digits higher than John Kerry in 2004 or John McCain in 2008.

This month, Hulu recently released a four-hour documentary series on Hillary Clinton that recounts both her personal and professional life in the spotlight. The episodes often focus on the polarized reactions she inspired—even going back to her role in her husband's surprise reelection loss in 1980. Maybe that has more to tell us about why Sanders’ campaign failed to catch the same momentum than it did four years ago and what the Trump campaign needs to prepare for in November.
 
Hoopguru said:
Biden will beat Trump but no way Sanders would beat Trump in Southeast, South, Midwest and a couple eastern / western states.
They don't buy his democratic socialism, thats pretty obvious now.
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All the national polls show that Sanders is more popular than Trump, so I don't buy that argument.
 
Lanny said:
All the national polls show that Sanders is more popular than Trump, so I don't buy that argument.
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Many if those same polls has Sanders beating Joe.
I don’t put much stock in polls any more after 2016.
 
Hoopguru said:
Many if those same polls has Sanders beating Joe.
I don’t put much stock in polls any more after 2016.
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Those poll results showing that don't exist at this time.
 
Hoopguru said:
I don’t put much stock in polls any more after 2016.
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The polls were pretty accurate in 2016. They had Clinton with a small (~3%) lead nationally and she won the popular vote by ~3%. Where they missed, in the Midwestern battleground states, they missed by a small amount, but the electoral college swung on a tiny number of votes.

What you shouldn't put much stock in is talking head "analysts." They kept claiming that Clinton was going to win in a landslide even though that's not what the polls said.
 
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