Can we get Blake Griffin?

[Boob-No-More]

Hell no. Short of Griffin, I'd give up Oden for no one. I think Oden is the most untouchable player on our roster.

So, you wouldn't trade Greg Oden straight up for Dwight Howard????? Seriously?????

He will get healthy and we'll get at least 11/10/2.5 out of him for many years.

Dwight Howard doesn't turn 25 until a couple weeks from now, but is already in his 7th NBA season and has only missed a total of 3 games. His career averages are 17.6 PPG, 12.6 RPG and 2.1 BPG. He's already led the league in rebounding 3 times and blocked shots twice and is the two time Defensive Player of the year and is currently averaging almost 22 PPG. And, did I mention, he's only 24 (almost 25) and has never had a serious injury?

BNM

 

[KingSpeed]

Have you watched Roy Hibbert or Brook Lopez play lately? Swap either of those two for Oden straight up and we would become contenders. It is questionable if healthy that Oden produces as much as these two.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Have YOU? Brook Lopez averages 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes per game. He also shoots 42% from the field! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Yea, right, that dud would make us a contender, lol. The Blazers fan base would turn on him the day he arrived. How does a seven footer not grab 7 rebounds in 35 minutes of play? And how does he shoot only 42% from the field? That would make us a contender?

 

[KingSpeed]

So, you wouldn't trade Greg Oden straight up for Dwight Howard????? Seriously?????



Dwight Howard doesn't turn 25 until a couple weeks from now, but is already in his 7th NBA season and has only missed a total of 3 games. His career averages are 17.6 PPG, 12.6 RPG and 2.1 BPG. He's already led the league in rebounding 3 times and blocked shots twice and is the two time Defensive Player of the year and is currently averaging almost 22 PPG. And, did I mention, he's only 24 (almost 25) and has never had a serious injury?

BNM

Oden had the 8th best PER in the league last season and he was still shaking off the rust. After this next surgery, he could be healthy the rest of his career and pay at or above Howard's level. We just have to be patient. Trust me. You don't want to see him dominate in another team's uniform and that's what will happen if we trade him.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Have YOU? Brook Lopez averages 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes per game. He also shoots 42% from the field! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Yea, right, that dud would make us a contender, lol. The Blazers fan base would turn on him the day he arrived. How does a seven footer not grab 7 rebounds in 35 minutes of play? And how does he shoot only 42% from the field? That would make us a contender?

Notice how Miami has struggled with three all-stars and a cast of new players?

New Jersey did about the same thing, but was only able to land role players like Travis Outlaw, Anthony Morrow, Jordan Farmar, and Johan Petro. Troy Murphy has not produce either.

There is a reason they are not making him available in the Carmelo discussions.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

So, you wouldn't trade Greg Oden straight up for Dwight Howard????? Seriously?????



Dwight Howard doesn't turn 25 until a couple weeks from now, but is already in his 7th NBA season and has only missed a total of 3 games. His career averages are 17.6 PPG, 12.6 RPG and 2.1 BPG. He's already led the league in rebounding 3 times and blocked shots twice and is the two time Defensive Player of the year and is currently averaging almost 22 PPG. And, did I mention, he's only 24 (almost 25) and has never had a serious injury?

BNM

My guess is that he started a legitimate question and then turned it into one of his threads where he takes an impossible position to only talk nonsense.

 

[KingSpeed]

Notice how Miami has struggled with three all-stars and a cast of new players?

New Jersey did about the same thing, but was only able to land role players like Travis Outlaw, Anthony Morrow, Jordan Farmar, and Johan Petro. Troy Murphy has not produce either.

There is a reason they are not making him available in the Carmelo discussions.

So let's be clear. You would like us to start a 7 foot center who grabs 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes per game and shoots 42% from the floor. And you'd be fine with that. And that would make us a contender.

Did I get that right?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Oden had the 8th best PER in the league last season

And Howard's was better (24.0 vs. 23.1), and he did it for 82 games, at 34.7 MPG, not 21 games at 23.1 MPG. And Howard's was better the year before (25.6) and is better now (26.0), and he does it year, after year, after year without missing a game. Howard logs big minutes, produces better than Oden and never gets hurt. No contest.

After this next surgery...

That's the problem. How many surgeries has Oden had? How many has Howard had?

he could be healthy the rest of his career and pay at or above Howard's level.

Given their track records, I'd bet on Howard. He's played over 500 NBA games and almost 18,000 minutes without a single major injury. Oden has played 82 games and 1800 minutes and had five major injuries.

Look, I love Greg Oden and wish him nothing but the best, but you'd have to be fucking insane to turn down a trade of Greg Oden for Dwight Howard if it was offered. Oden's upside, IF he can ever stay healthy, is Dwight Howard. Howard is insanely productive AND durable, and still only 24 (for a couple more weeks). How could anyone in their right mind turn down that trade (not that it would ever be offerred)?

BNM

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

So let's be clear. You would like us to start a 7 foot center who grabs 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes per game and shoots 42% from the floor. And you'd be fine with that. And that would make us a contender.

Did I get that right?

Look at his two previous seasons instead of 13 games. As said WATCH him play instead of just looking at the numbers this year since he has almost an entire new team.

50% FG%, 80%FT, 8+RBs, two blocks

His point average went up from 13 to close to 19 last year.

Want to make a wager on his numbers staying that low?

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

21 pts and 6 rbs and the first half is not over for Lopez tonight.

 

[Natebishop3]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Have YOU? Brook Lopez averages 6.3 rebounds in 35 minutes per game. He also shoots 42% from the field! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Yea, right, that dud would make us a contender, lol. The Blazers fan base would turn on him the day he arrived. How does a seven footer not grab 7 rebounds in 35 minutes of play? And how does he shoot only 42% from the field? That would make us a contender?

Oh Eric, I see you've got your fishing pole in the water just hoping someone will bite...

 

[Minstrel]

It's not like Sterling is going to pay him what he's worth.

Luckily for Sterling, he doesn't have to pay Griffin what he's worth for a few years yet.

 

[Chocolove]

Hell no. Short of Griffin, I'd give up Oden for no one. I think Oden is the most untouchable player on our roster. He will get healthy and we'll get at least 11/10/2.5 out of him for many years.

That's cause every time someone touches him he gets injured.

 

[oldguy]

21 pts and 6 rbs and the first half is not over for Lopez tonight.

Yeah, he only went for with 32 pts on 12/19 shooting, 9 rbs and 2 ast. Most importantly he was +14 for the game. What the hell were the Nets thinking when they kept Lopez and kicked Yi to the curb?

Go Blazers

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yeah, he only went for with 32 pts on 12/19 shooting, 9 rbs and 2 ast. Most importantly he was +14 for the game. What the hell were the Nets thinking when they kept Lopez and kicked Yi to the curb?

Go Blazers

Kingspeed, the master of the 1-game sample size, hoisted by his own petard.

BNM

 

[KingSpeed]

Yeah, he only went for with 32 pts on 12/19 shooting, 9 rbs and 2 ast. Most importantly he was +14 for the game. What the hell were the Nets thinking when they kept Lopez and kicked Yi to the curb?

Go Blazers

Terribly inconsistent.

 

[KingSpeed]

That's cause every time someone touches him he gets injured.

Repped

 

[oldguy]

Terribly inconsistent.

Who is? Yi the all star?

Go Blazers

 

[Boob-No-More]

Terribly inconsistent.

Ironically, so is the subject of this thread - Brandon Rush. Go back and look at his game logs from his first two seasons. He had multiple great games, bit also many more games where he totally stunk. For example, his rookie season he had 6 games where he scored between 21 and 29 points, but still had a PER of only 9.0 for the season. As you say, terribly inconsistent.

BNM

 

[KingSpeed]

I never said Rush was a great player. I wouldnt trade Oden for him and I dont think he would immediately make us a contender. Just said that we lost him for nothing and he's a good shooter. That's all that we would need him for.

But it was said here that Lopez would make us an instant contender and that is laughable.

 

[SpamKing]

Griffin will probably stay in Los Angeles . . . Just not with the Clippers . . .

 

[RoyToy]

I never said Rush was a great player. I wouldnt trade Oden for him and I dont think he would immediately make us a contender. Just said that we lost him for nothing and he's a good shooter. That's all that we would need him for.

But it was said here that Lopez would make us an instant contender and that is laughable.

I know you're doing you're usual shtick but Brook Lopez is indeed shooting the same amount of jumpers this year as Aldridge, both at 64% of their shot selection. That's not going to get it done.

He's not an elite rebounder, either.

He's kind of like the C version of LaMarcus Aldridge.

 

[KingSpeed]

I know you're doing you're usual shtick but Brook Lopez is indeed shooting the same amount of jumpers this year as Aldridge, both at 64% of their shot selection. That's not going to get it done.

He's not an elite rebounder, either.

He's kind of like the C version of LaMarcus Aldridge.

You're AGREEING with me. Read the thread. Someone else said Lopez would make us a contender. I said Hell no. Lopez is a horrible center. 6 rebounds per game. 42% shooting from the field. Can't defend Shaq. I'd much rather have Oden than Lopez. And it's not close.

By the way, Aldridge is better than Lopez too. Better shooter. Better rebounder. Lopez is a dud.

 

[MickZagger]

Yes, Lopez is as soft as they come. He also gets abused downlow by other mediocre Centers. There's about 5 or 6 centers in the east that are better than him.