Can we just admit Arizona is racist now?

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Good. I've been in these classes in college, they are a complete waste of time. The entire classes are centered about how shitty white people are and how to feel sorry for oneself based on their race.

Really hostile discussions take place and its a lot of groupthink. I think it was called "American Cultures", it was a joke...really easy class though.
Even some of the high school classes kind of encroach on these subjects (I believe it was called "Peace and Justice").


The new law forbids elementary or secondary schools to teach classes that are "designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group" and advocate "the overthrow of the United States government" or "resentment toward a race or class of people."
 
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I personally think this will make Arizona a nicer place to live in the future. Instead of placating everyone, they are taking a hard nose stance. No more illegals, no more advocating classes that cause hostilities towards other races, etc.

Today Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott arizona. The response here is pretty negative towards this complete waste of time. So fucking stupid. Fix our fucking city first before wanting to cripple someone else. Could you imagine if the state of Arizona started telling its residents to Boycott tourism to LA? Don't go to Disneyland? California is royally fucked in the head, not Arizona. In a few years its going to be a bigger shithole.
 
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The state that gave us John McCain and Barry Goldwater says all this is necessary, but you notice that the adjoining states don't agree. Reporters asked those state governments a couple of days ago whether they would follow suit and they said no, it's unnecessary.
 
The law will be tested in the courts and it will be undone by SCOTUS. It's a clear violation of the 14th amendment, the equal protection clause.
 
not sure if Disneyland will ever be in trouble.. that place I think is recession proof.
 
and what does that have to do with having classes where minorities can just get together and sulk. I've been in these classes, they are teh gheyest thing you've ever seen in your lives.
 
The LA City council is comparing and likening this to the Nazi Holocaust and Japanese internment. Looks like they're the ones who need to take some classes.
 
And if they are, does it help to have classes where they reinforce this thought? I'll answer for you: No, it doesn't.


This.

Any teachings that involve discrimination are wrong. Great men fought for the rights of every individual to be treated equal, yet many cultures still try to teach that their people are are oppressed in some way.

How would it fly if there were a class for white people only that tought how there is a huge reverse racism problem today among blacks and Hispanics towards white people? There would be absolutely no way the leaders of those respective races would stand for that.

Stand with me not as a back man or Hispanic man, but stand with me as a human being.
 
A bunch of white people saying minorities aren't oppressed.

:grin:

Oh looky here.... happens to be the same ones who go on and on in other threads about being victims of the government.

Awesome thread. You people are a joke.
 
You're totally right, westnob. We should have more classes teaching minorities how oppressed they are, and do more ass wiping of vocal minorities. That isn't racist at all.

That didn't take long.

I think this is the 2nd (edit: It's the 3rd) thing a racist always says.

Step 1: "Oh sorry I'm not politically correct"

Step 2: "My black friends say....."

Step 3: "You're the one who's actually racist"
 
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I would be grateful to any minority if they would tell a story of the last time they were oppressed simply because they were a minority.

People of color are not here to teach you how to recognize racism. You should take initiative and use the power of the ultimate, yet incredibly secret, tool called GOOGLE.

OddEnormous,

A woman's blog who I frequent I believe created this:

racismbingo.jpg
 
I would be grateful to any minority if they would tell a story of the last time they were oppressed simply because they were a minority.

What about the lack of Asians and Arabs in film and tv shows? And if they are in films or tv shows, they either play small roles, stereotypical villains, or have their roles taken over by whites? There's such a consistent trend within film and media that it's not really arguable anymore. It's not so different from the black face minstrel shows you used to be able to see at the local county fairs. That's a sign of oppression there.

What about having people disregard other cultures because of the cultural differences? Sure, some cultural differences should be disregarded when it comes to making moral judgments but something simply as bowing to another person is regarded as showing inferiority. Why? Bowing is a sign of respect in some traditional cultures as is not looking someone in the eye. Similarly, some people have asperger's and can't look others in the eye and we condemn them because of it. Our American culture has always had a way of condemning things we don't understand. At the same time, popular culture references products and traditions not familiar with minority groups. There is an automatic sense of alienation from the rest of society. Is it anyone's fault in this case? No. But because the majority rules, the products of the masses interferes with the minority and they'll automatically feel left out. In this way, it is oppression from the majority tradition. I'm not saying go blame and critique white people but our country could do a better job bringing awareness to other cultures.

And what about when I'm walking with friends on the street and drive-by assholes call us out by racially derogatory names? Yeah, some of them are drunk and others are doing it just because of a group mentality, but doesn't that indicate some form of prejudice underneath? I've had this happen so many times, especially in smaller ghetto/hick areas.

And yes, whites are discriminated against with just about every other ethnic/racial group. And yes, I personally think a lot of the racial 'tensions' stem from economic differences rather than pure discrimination. And yes, with the exception of representation in film/media, these don't classify as pure oppression simply because our country has worked hard to fragmentize and alienate racists so that they remain ineffective as a whole. But to ignore these small repeated numbers of racist actions is to ignore the micro-oppressiveness of racist thought and bigotry.

And yes, while you aren't racist in any way, to say racial oppression doesn't exist would be to ignore the other side of America, where it does exist on an institutional and fragmentized level.

I'm not saying ethnic studies classes are the correct way of teaching. But leveling the ground through censorship isn't going to do any good. In fact, it's worse for minorities who have had crimes committed against them while being ignored by a failed justice system.

If, like you said, we're human and all in this together, we shouldn't ignore the colors that people attribute to us because they, themselves, are racist.
 
I have to be honest, I HATED learning Spanish in Middle School and High School. Absolutely hated it.
 
http://willcapersblaqueink.blogspot.com/2010/04/black-adversity-opposite-of-white.html

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/

Spend a week, hell just a few hours, reading stuffwhitepeopledo and maybe you will begin to understand how minorities are oppressed, how many white people (myself included) are blind to their own White Privilege, how racism is still very much alive (but just not as blatant anymore), and how 35 years of being treated like humans by white people doesn't just magically erase tendencies that were ingrained in us for over three centuries.

A lot of us freaked out on BenDavis for dropping the N bomb multiple times, but just because he was consciously racist doesn't mean a lot of us aren't subconsciously racist as well. We can't just refuse to talk about race, White Privilege, racism, and talk about being color blind when we live in a society that clearly is not. I know it may make us whiteys uncomfortable (SCARY I KNOW), but it is necessary.
 
What about the lack of Asians and Arabs in film and tv shows? And if they are in films or tv shows, they either play small roles, stereotypical villains, or have their roles taken over by whites? There's such a consistent trend within film and media that it's not really arguable anymore. It's not so different from the black face minstrel shows you used to be able to see at the local county fairs. That's a sign of oppression there.


A good example of whites taking roles of minorities, in particular Asians as you said, is found here:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...gallipoli-sniper/story-e6frg6nf-1225862770626
 
A good example of whites taking roles of minorities, in particular Asians as you said, is found here:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...gallipoli-sniper/story-e6frg6nf-1225862770626

So... you posted a link from Australia and you posted a blog that is a PC circle-jerk, and has the most recent post dealing with people being put in a zoo 104 years ago?

I don't doubt for a moment that racism exists, but you're not making a very good case that it does.

Ed O.
 
So... you posted a link from Australia and you posted a blog that is a PC circle-jerk, and has the most recent post dealing with people being put in a zoo 104 years ago?

I don't doubt for a moment that racism exists, but you're not making a very good case that it does.

Ed O.

I was unaware that Australia was not a part of Earth and thus did not sit within the confines of Racist Human Beings. My mistake, Ed O, my mistake.

I like how you discount the experiences of the people on the blog I linked. Another sign of White Privilege: disregard the very real experiences of people of color.
 

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