Kakko is Jagr-esque in how difficult it is to get the puck from him. The guy goes into a battle on the boards and more often than not comes out with the puck. He should definitely be in the top 6 next game.
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Kakko is Jagr-esque in how difficult it is to get the puck from him. The guy goes into a battle on the boards and more often than not comes out with the puck. He should definitely be in the top 6 next game.
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Carolina is good at tightening things up as the game processes
I was going to ask what the fuck has Kakko done?
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He should've been Jagr-esque and hit a fucking wide open net in game one.
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Motte was clearly the best player on the ice for the Rangers tonight. Yet, nobody mentions him but want to beat the same stupid dead horse narrative.
I am blown away by this Kakko stuff. Jesus what has the guy done besides be virtually invisible and miss a wide open net? Not going to kill him or write him off as he's a kid who still has high upside, but seriously that is where we are hanging our hat. Why wasn't invisible Kakko moved up? Come on.
And again, no one mentions Lafreniere moving up because he earned it, doesn't meet the Rangers ruined the kids story, so won't go there.
And again, no one mentions Lafreniere moving up because he earned it, doesn't meet the Rangers ruined the kids story, so won't go there.
Yup - why I wrote I would have moved Motte up before Kakko. And truthfully I think Vatrano has turned into that pumpkin, I'd switch Motte and Vatrano for game 3.
Panarin has played almost 40 minutes the first 2 games of the series and done absolutely nothing. But yea, let's keep bringing up a miss by a young kid.
Some of you guys focus on the weirdest things after these games.
Big stories to me:
CK and Pan awful again.
Blowing game 1 I think was the killer, even though it was game 1.
Lafreniere is coming on, and looks great to me. Stud for sure next season.
Motte should be the forward we are asking why wasn't he moved up, not Kakko, who has not earned it.
Big stories to me:
CK and Pan awful again.
Blowing game 1 I think was the killer, even though it was game 1.
Lafreniere is coming on, and looks great to me. Stud for sure next season.
Motte should be the forward we are asking why wasn't he moved up, not Kakko, who has not earned it.
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Nobody for the most part has played well. Just screaming Kakko when he hasn't done a thing makes no sense.
Invisible? You're watching the wrong games apparently. Fine, this board may never let him live off that open net miss apparently, but what has Panarin or Kreider done the first 2 games to say players like Kakko don't deserve their chance at playing more?
and yes, Lafreniere is crushing it this series creating something almost every time he's out there. It is about fucking time he gets rewarded.
I think we'd all agree on Pan being story # 1. He has been terrible for many games now outside of 1 huge PPG. He is the # 1 story, and it is very concerning moving forward.
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Strome needed to net atleast one early in the game but it shouldn't and can't just come down to that.
Yes, I am watching, and Kakko has done very little in the playoffs. Maybe invisible is a touch strong, but he has not earned moving up.
I just commented on Panarin. No doubt he is the biggest story. We have all wrote that OVER and OVER.
Motte should be up over Kakko. Why Kakko, because he is a kid? Earn it kid - Lafreniere did.
I just commented on Panarin. No doubt he is the biggest story. We have all wrote that OVER and OVER.
Motte should be up over Kakko. Why Kakko, because he is a kid? Earn it kid - Lafreniere did.
Strome is another one. Good thing about him is he is now 10000000000000% gone. We won't have to see his face anymore losing every FO and disappearing for long stretches. Maybe we can add the # 2 C who can win a FO we badly need to replace Strome.
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Laf to me looks like he's going to be the stud. Kakko has a lot to prove.
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Kreider is the one we should be most disappointed in. Adam Graves he is not.
BINGO!!! This is the bottom line. I don't know how anyone can watch these games and not clearly see that. Both were "handled the wrong way" according to some, and look at what Lafreniere is doing vs. what Kakko is doing. Kakko needs to stay healthy and look in the mirror. That is not on the coaches.
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I like Motte but Motte has ZERO offensive ability.
Step back - give the team credit. Youngest team in the playoffs, came back from a huge 3-1 hole in round 1, made the 2nd round. That is a lot accomplished this year.
Losing game 1 against Carolina was the crusher to me, and IMO essentially put an end to their chances unless they came up huge in game 2. That is why I was so upset after game 1, I knew what it represented, and it would be the one we'd regret.
We have a few holes - 3rd pair LD, a guy who can win a FO, a legit 2nd line C - we get answers to those things (I'd try and re-sign Copp as the 3rd line C - and deal Chytil in a package for the 2nd line C), and we can beat any team next season with Lafreniere the stud leading the way. I truly believe that.
Losing game 1 against Carolina was the crusher to me, and IMO essentially put an end to their chances unless they came up huge in game 2. That is why I was so upset after game 1, I knew what it represented, and it would be the one we'd regret.
We have a few holes - 3rd pair LD, a guy who can win a FO, a legit 2nd line C - we get answers to those things (I'd try and re-sign Copp as the 3rd line C - and deal Chytil in a package for the 2nd line C), and we can beat any team next season with Lafreniere the stud leading the way. I truly believe that.
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You said exactly the same shit after game 4 in the last series. Let's see what happens in games 3 and 4 before giving up.
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Just a little mindboggling that they look like they have no idea what they're doing in some of these games. Do they make any kind of adjustments? Does anyone light a fire under the team? Panarin looks like he's worried about what's going on in Russia or something.
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Difference in the series is very simple. Carolina’s best offensive player is making plays and is playing well. Panarin fucking sucks and is a turnover machine. It’s a shame because the team actually could be up two games to zero instead of down two games to zero
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Some of us have tried to tell people on this board all season that if the Rangers don’t try to develop Lafreniere and Kakko eventually they will never win a cup. Putting Strome on the powerplay instead of Lafreniere is now destroying the team in the playoffs.
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Like Valiquette said in the postgame, against Carolina's pk you need quick support in the middle of the ice to setup, not stretch everyone out and give the pk time to anticipate. Plus, nobody gets up the ice into the zone cleanly to even get it going.
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Like Edmonton your top players have to play like it in the playoffs. Otherwise you don't even have a chance to win. Panarin deserves criticism but where the hell is Kreider? Wants to do little else but stand at the side of the net.
Carolina has 3 goals in two games (the EN goal doesn't count), not sure I'd say their offensive players are making plays. If I told you we'd limit them to 3 goals in two games we'd all sign right now, and say 1-1 series at worst.
And your tired Lafreniere and Kakko narrative has been debunked by Lafreniere being maybe our best player, despite being "mishandled" by coaches. Kakko's issues are not due to the big mean coaches, they are due to him staying healthy and playing better to earn it.
And Step, the %'s are what they are when you are down 2-0 or 3-1 for a reason. Doesn't mean you cannot win, the %'s aren't 100% of course, but you do not make your living in the NHL playoffs coming back from 2-0 and 3-1 deficits. I am being real about where we stood against the Pens, and where we stand now. With that said, go win game 3 and we'll go from there.
And your tired Lafreniere and Kakko narrative has been debunked by Lafreniere being maybe our best player, despite being "mishandled" by coaches. Kakko's issues are not due to the big mean coaches, they are due to him staying healthy and playing better to earn it.
And Step, the %'s are what they are when you are down 2-0 or 3-1 for a reason. Doesn't mean you cannot win, the %'s aren't 100% of course, but you do not make your living in the NHL playoffs coming back from 2-0 and 3-1 deficits. I am being real about where we stood against the Pens, and where we stand now. With that said, go win game 3 and we'll go from there.
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Almost playing like a team overly satisfied with a first round win and little else matters.
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Kreider hasn't been good offensively. Kreider, Zibanejad and Panarin have been duds for the most part. Those 11 points by Zibanejad in the Pitt series were so misleading. He did shit for the first 5 games of that series.
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There are a lot of things the Canes are doing much better than the Rangers so far. some of them are fixable, others aren't unfortunately.
Face-offs....my god the Rangers are baaaaaaaaaaddddddddd. Doesn't matter which zone they are in, they just don't win enough and it really puts them at a disadvantage.
Fore checking...the Canes have been all over the Rangers and they figured out the Rangers will almost always use the boards to try to clear the zone...they cut off a ton of clearing attempts last night.
Passing/puck control..it's not to say that the Canes are doing anything next level, they've actually been pretty pedestrian too but the Rangers aren't making clean passes. They seem to be hesitant and taking half of a second to get the puck off their sticks is costing them. You watch the Canes when they have the puck in the offensive zone and they maintain control for long stretches. The Rangers had a handful of times where they did the same last night (drew a penalty on at least one of them) but it's not often or long enough to wear down the Canes.
I will say though that the Rangers have done a very good job at limiting the Canes scoring chances...they gave up a few odd-man rushes that cost them last night but for the most part they are hanging well.
The series isn't over yet, being down 2-0 is a big mountain to climb but they've shown resilience all season. Let's see them put a great game together tomorrow and go from there.
Face-offs....my god the Rangers are baaaaaaaaaaddddddddd. Doesn't matter which zone they are in, they just don't win enough and it really puts them at a disadvantage.
Fore checking...the Canes have been all over the Rangers and they figured out the Rangers will almost always use the boards to try to clear the zone...they cut off a ton of clearing attempts last night.
Passing/puck control..it's not to say that the Canes are doing anything next level, they've actually been pretty pedestrian too but the Rangers aren't making clean passes. They seem to be hesitant and taking half of a second to get the puck off their sticks is costing them. You watch the Canes when they have the puck in the offensive zone and they maintain control for long stretches. The Rangers had a handful of times where they did the same last night (drew a penalty on at least one of them) but it's not often or long enough to wear down the Canes.
I will say though that the Rangers have done a very good job at limiting the Canes scoring chances...they gave up a few odd-man rushes that cost them last night but for the most part they are hanging well.
The series isn't over yet, being down 2-0 is a big mountain to climb but they've shown resilience all season. Let's see them put a great game together tomorrow and go from there.
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When your highest paid player is making excuses like a bitch, it's time to rethink things in the off-season. As I said, first Panarin is going to play right wing, shut the fuck up and deal with it so Lafreniere can play left wing on his line. Two, Lafreniere and Kakko need to play the first PP unit consistently next season. If that means that Panarin, Kreider and Zibanejad lose some time, tough shit. Deal with it.
