Catastrophic Bad Luck and Returns

[TBpup]

It looks like the Blazers will lose LaMarcus Aldridge to FA'cy with absolutely nothing in return. It doesn't happen very often that an A-List Free Agent leaves but in Portland's case, it has happened over and over again for different reasons.

Oden and Roy were incredible talents lost to injury that the Blazers never even had the chance to trade or get something back. So those to Lottery picks left for nothing. Now LaMarcus will leave for nothing as well. That is the #1, #2 and #6 picks that Portland has gotten nothing in return for.

Historically unfortunate.

I dare say no other team in NBA history has had so many high draft picks leave for absolutely nothing. Don't even talk to me about losing the coin flip or not being able to get Sabonis until he was old and injured. This team could have been championship relevant in every decade except for injuries to Walton, lost the coin flip for Olajuwon and then not drafting Jordan, not getting Sabonis early, injuries to Oden/Roy and now Aldridge leaving for nothing.

What more can happen to the Blazers? Where is the return on investment for so many years of things that could have or should have gone better?

 

[Darkwebs]

We're cursed.

 

[lawai'a]

least we ain't rooten' for the cubbies brah

 

[Roger Templeton]

who is Jordon?

 

[TBpup]

Seriously, It is the stuff that documentaries are made of. Name another franchise in any sport that has had the types of decimating injuries or just bad luck as has happened to the Trail Blazers. Even when they do the right thing (Roy/Aldridge) it doesn't work out.

 

[riverman]

So you're saying we're overdue for a long stretch of good luck?

 

[Further]

I don't dwell on shitty thing in our past. LMA is a current problem, and I think Olshey is doing a good job considering we are losing a top player. However, we have no idea if we are losing him truly for nothing. If he goes to the heat or Suns, we will likely get a decent part back. If he goes to the Spurs, we only get something back if Aldridge refuses to sign unless they do a sign and trade so he can make the most possible. We will know soon enough.

 

[ripcityboy]

I don't believe in curses. Portland has always been a very fical environment for sports teams. This just isn't a place that pro athletes want to come too. And I don't see it changing. The team doesn't do a very good job of selling itself. We are a good farm team for free agents though. I am surprised Allen has kept the team here, really.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

who is Jordon?

Grown-Up Harold Minor.

 

[TBpup]

So you're saying we're overdue for a long stretch of good luck?

A good run of luck and fortune does seem due doesn't it...

 

[BigGameDamian]

If Aldridge chooses to go to Phoenix doesn't it have to be a sign & trade or can they just sign him?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

The clippers had top 5 picks for 20 years with nothing to show for it.

Shit happens, at least their flames burned bright for a glorious moment.

 

[Kaydow]

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Dame's trying to earn his money!

 

[TBpup]

The clippers had top 5 picks for 20 years with nothing to show for it.

Shit happens, at least their flames burned bright for a glorious moment.

True but their management was the most incompetent in league history outside of old Ted Stepien in Cleveland many years ago.

 

[blue32]

god these threads..... lets consolidate!

 

[lawai'a]

Chicago cubs went from 1945-46------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1967-68 before putting together back to back winning seasons

 

[3RA1N1AC]

besides the lucky few, every team is snakebit

if anything, we are teased with crawling out of the pit more often than other teams, but we have had a pretty decent run all things considered.

 

[BlazerWookee]

It looks like the Blazers will lose LaMarcus Aldridge to FA'cy with absolutely nothing in return.

No, it doesn't.

 

[TBpup]

Chicago cubs went from 1945-46------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1967-68 before putting together back to back winning seasons

I figured there had to be a Cub reference somewhere. They had a long, bad run but was their the bad luck, injuries or pure misfortune that has besot the Blazers?

 

[lawai'a]

I figured there had to be a Cub reference somewhere. They had a long, bad run but was their the bad luck, injuries or pure misfortune that has besot the Blazers?

all of the above. risking it all on roy's known knee problems and significant questions surrounding odens health, the cold war-detante and trying for sbonis were all high risk high reward gambles IMO

 

[lawai'a]

players own greed should also factor into lucas and hollins, even clyde to some extent. trader bob and adalmens fued, poor choices surrounding Derek andersons and shawn kemp acquisitions. playing time surrounding augmon,stoudemire anthony disgruntalled stars like Schrempf blame management way more than luck.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Seriously, It is the stuff that documentaries are made of. Name another franchise in any sport that has had the types of decimating injuries or just bad luck as has happened to the Trail Blazers. Even when they do the right thing (Roy/Aldridge) it doesn't work out.

Cleveland Browns?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We got at the very least 9 good years from Aldridge. I don't see how that is bad luck.

Also Roy is a shooting star. He was a breath of fresh air that finally blew out the stale rot of the Jail Blazers. His career was cut short but he wasn't bad luck.

Oden... well... fuck that dude.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

all of the above. risking it all on roy's known knee problems and significant questions surrounding odens health, the cold war-detante and trying for sbonis were all high risk high reward gambles IMO

I don't buy it. Yes, Roy and Oden did have injury problems coming in. What percentage of guys with injury problems have their careers terminated in their first couple of years because of it?

 

[lawai'a]

roy had surgey in junior year high school 2004, then again in 2008. led western conference players in total minutes in 2008 then led all nba players in minutes in 2009.knee surgery again 2010.

 

[maxiep]

We're not cursed, we're blessed. We've had some tough luck, but we've had more reason to cheer than boo than most other NBA franchises.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

IF this team loses LMA the best option would be a s&t with Phoenix - Len/Booker.

You don't lose an All-Star in his prime with nothing in return.

 

[maxiep]

IF this team loses LMA the best option would be a s&t with Phoenix - Len/Booker.

You don't lose an All-Star in his prime with nothing in return.

The return is the cap space. You need to have confidence that Olshey can attract a quality free agent sometime in the next few years with that slot. Neither Len nor Booker are needle movers.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Cap space is useless in this market.

 

[Chris Craig]

We're cursed and that's all there is to it...no one wants to come here, every time we get something good going it gets destroyed by injury or some form of misfortune. I don't know if we will ever win another championship. We are just a farm, growing players into starts then watching them walk away or retire because of bad knees...we have to force players to come here through trades and they leave when they get the chance.