Cavaliers dreaming of a LaMarcus Aldridge trade...

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If they had not screwed around 2 years ago and drafted Valanciunas, I might have given in to the thought of trading LA for Val, Varejao, and their lotto pick.
 
Thompson, Waiters, and their unprotected pick for Aldridge--I think you'd have to consider that. Or maybe Speights instead of Thompson.
 
Sure, why not blow it up? I'm starting to lose interest anyway.
 
Aldridge to Cleveland in July for Thompson and the rights to Olipado and Dieng......PLUS an additional 7-8 million in cap space to sign someone like Evans, is a good haul for Aldridge. Still leaves you all the cap room for a center as well.
 
You would have to consider that.

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Aldridge to Cleveland in July for Thompson and the rights to Olipado and Dieng......PLUS an additional 7-8 million in cap space to sign someone like Evans, is a good haul for Aldridge. Still leaves you all the cap room for a center as well.

Oh shoot--I didn't realize Cleveland had #19 too. Yeah--they could definitely put together a package for Aldridge if they wanted to pay enough.

If they were willing to give up Speights, Waiters, and both picks, I'd do it.
 
I don't think Allen is looking to rebuild with a young core.

On the other hand, it's never too early to start tanking next year . . .
 
Aldridge to Cleveland in July for Thompson and the rights to Olipado and Dieng......PLUS an additional 7-8 million in cap space to sign someone like Evans, is a good haul for Aldridge. Still leaves you all the cap room for a center as well.

So in this scenario we are basically trading LMA for Olipado. Because Thompson is very average (You can find some one like him anywhere) and with our pick now we could get Dieng. The extra cap space is nice and all but you are still talking about bench players. If you are going to trade LMA then you must get an all star back. (Or someone you feel pretty confident will be an all star) Because average players can be easily found.

I think the players in this draft have potential, but I would wait until next year for sure to think about trading LMA for draft picks.
 
Next years draft is loaded! Very interesting......
 
I haven't been against trading Aldridge, but it has to be for a position of need and it has to bring back some damn good talent. Thompson and Waiters is not enough. Waiters doesn't strike me as an efficient scorer, and Thompson is very "meh". And if they did include their lotto pick and the 19th in this draft, who would you take? If you grab Oladipo, Waiters becomes redundant.
 
Cleveland has done so well with these players and Irving?!?!?! We need them ASAP!
 
Whenever I think of Teh Soup Juggler, images of Rider smoking herb out of a pop can in his car in LO always pop into my mind.

I guess that's how strongly I feel he reminds me of Rider. I'm not totally sure why.

I just feel like he's Rider 2.0. Probably not quite the level of headcase. So, if he were Rider 2.0, it wouldn't be the worst thing. It just means he'll disappear some nights and play without focus.
 
So Thompson and 2 picks, and set ourselves back another year or so, but are realistically not bad enough to land Wiggins or a top 3 pick in next year's draft. Not interested. I think Lillard is further ahead than most rookies, and further ahead than most expected. With what he's shown, I don't think worrying about finding someone younger to fit with him is as much a priority as it could have been right after the draft.
Also if we did successfully tank for Wiggins, the age difference between Lillard and Wiggins is the same as Lillard and Aldridge. So should we turn and look to trade Lillard?
 
Waiters, Top 5 pick and #19 is pretty similar value to what the Jazz got in return for Deron Williams (Harris, Favors, and No. 3 pick [Kanter]) and I thought Utah was smart to have the foresight to trade Williams a year before he would become an expiring contract, which is why if we do deal LA, it HAS to be this summer. He won't command nearly as much in value if we were to wait to trade him as an expiring contract.

Barring a Dwight Howard signing, I don't see this team do much more than being one-and-done in the playoffs next season, which means we would have wasted yet another peak year of Aldridge on the roster. We simply need to be realistic about how long rebuilding will take and it would be smart to deal LA to accelerate the process. This is Dame's team, and we need to do whatever it takes to build young talent around him. LA's a great compliment, but we just have too many holes to fill and I fear that by the time they are finally filled, Aldridge will be on the decline.

Now the question becomes, "Does Cleveland have enough to offer?" Unfortunately, this draft is not the ideal draft to trade your All-Star in. I do love the Top 3 picks (Noel, McLemore, Oladipo), there's still good value at 19 (take a flyer on Schroder, Adetokoubo, Gobert?), or package Waiters for a Top 3 pick this year or next. I do like the idea of taking Oladipo and having a weapon like Waiters coming off the bench.

I think a better offer could be made from Orlando if they were interested. What about Nic Vucevic and an unprotected 2014 pick? Too little return? Too much? Either way, it's going to be an exciting offseason.
 
Waiters, Top 5 pick and #19 is pretty similar value to what the Jazz got in return for Deron Williams (Harris, Favors, and No. 3 pick [Kanter]) and I thought Utah was smart to have the foresight to trade Williams a year before he would become an expiring contract, which is why if we do deal LA, it HAS to be this summer. He won't command nearly as much in value if we were to wait to trade him as an expiring contract.

Barring a Dwight Howard signing, I don't see this team do much more than being one-and-done in the playoffs next season, which means we would have wasted yet another peak year of Aldridge on the roster. We simply need to be realistic about how long rebuilding will take and it would be smart to deal LA to accelerate the process. This is Dame's team, and we need to do whatever it takes to build young talent around him. LA's a great compliment, but we just have too many holes to fill and I fear that by the time they are finally filled, Aldridge will be on the decline.

Now the question becomes, "Does Cleveland have enough to offer?" Unfortunately, this draft is not the ideal draft to trade your All-Star in. I do love the Top 3 picks (Noel, McLemore, Oladipo), there's still good value at 19 (take a flyer on Schroder, Adetokoubo, Gobert?), or package Waiters for a Top 3 pick this year or next. I do like the idea of taking Oladipo and having a weapon like Waiters coming off the bench.

I think a better offer could be made from Orlando if they were interested. What about Nic Vucevic and an unprotected 2014 pick? Too little return? Too much? Either way, it's going to be an exciting offseason.

Williams was an issue in Utah. He wanted out and had problems with the coaching staff, etc. I see no ill will from Aldridge. Assuming that he will demand a trade, with no "red flags" that he's even thinking this way seems a bit premature.
 
If Paul Allen could stomach a season of tanking,

Tristan Thompson
Cleveland's pick this year
Memphis pick

for

LA
Joel Freeland

would work for me.

Free agency this year does not look very promising. Rolling over that cap room another year would possibly land a legit #1 (Lillard might be one, but LA and Batum are 2's at best). The step down to Thompson is not that huge and we would have serious money to play with this year and next.

Dont think that is the route we go though.
 
There is no one on Cleveland save Irving I'm interested in. The pick this year is meh and if we trade la there pick next year will probably not even be a lottery pick. Waiters looks more like monte then harden and tristan thomas seems like another kris humphries.

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Waiters, Top 5 pick and #19 is pretty similar value to what the Jazz got in return for Deron Williams (Harris, Favors, and No. 3 pick [Kanter]) and I thought Utah was smart to have the foresight to trade Williams a year before he would become an expiring contract, which is why if we do deal LA, it HAS to be this summer. He won't command nearly as much in value if we were to wait to trade him as an expiring contract.

If Utah was smart to trade Williams a year before he would have an expiring contract, wouldn't next summer be similar in regards to LMA?
 
Moving Aldridge for picks and someone like Thompson will hurt Lillard's development, IMO. We'll have nobody to take pressure off of him.
 
We could get Soup Juggler and some picks, then do something crazy like signing Paul Milsap and Dalembert.
 
It all depends on Aldridge next season. Does he come back as LaMonster? When he's on, and Lillard is on, I like our chances against any team in the league. We just need a few support players. If we're going to reset and trade Aldridge, it has to be for someone amazing. Not just a few good players.

I'm anxious to see what Olshey has planned for this summer.
 
It's funny, all the reasons why CLE wants LA, we want to keep him. Makes very little sense for us, especially considering how they have so few assets. If we're gonna do a true salary dump, I want high level prospects, not Dion Waiters and draft picks in a very weak draft.

I'd look at Orlando as mentioned above. If they can give us Vucevic, Harris, and a pick, I'd do that today.
 
Horrible idea, but what if this happened? Do what i mentioned above, draft Otto Porter, and trade Batum for a guy like Pek or another center?

Lillard
Soup Juggler
Porter
Milsap/Smith
Pek/Good center
 
Horrible idea, but what if this happened? Do what i mentioned above, draft Otto Porter, and trade Batum for a guy like Pek or another center?

Lillard
Soup Juggler
Porter
Milsap/Smith
Pek/Good center

That team wins less games then this years team and soup juggler gets turned into the new JR Rider by the oregonian and local media. Good news is we'd be set for sucking so badly we get top 5 picks for a few yeara

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