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Phatguysrule said:
Good point, however, another manufacturer wouldn't be making an iPhone, since it's a closed ecosystem.

As such, there would be no iPhone available at that price point.

There are far more negatives than positives to closed ecosystems.
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Dunno,

SlyPokerDog said:
Alcatel has had well-documented problems with spyware and malware coming preinstalled on their phones.
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That sounds like a pretty big negative right there. Caveat emptor isn't my idea of what we should strive for.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Dunno,



That sounds like a pretty big negative right there. Caveat emptor isn't my idea of what we should strive for.

barfo
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Bad manufacturers are bad. Absolutely.

If the alternative is that I'm restricted from doing what I want with the item I purchased, then yes, I'll take caveat emptor nearly every time.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Bad manufacturers are bad. Absolutely.

If the alternative is that I'm restricted from doing what I want with the item I purchased, then yes, I'll take caveat emptor nearly every time.
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Well, that's perfectly reasonable. I wouldn't buy a product that didn't do what I wanted either.

But I haven't run into anything I wanted to do but couldn't with the iPhone as of yet. If I ever do, I suppose I'll switch... not really expecting that to happen at this point tho.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Well, that's perfectly reasonable. I wouldn't buy a product that didn't do what I wanted either.

But I haven't run into anything I wanted to do but couldn't with the iPhone as of yet. If I ever do, I suppose I'll switch... not really expecting that to happen at this point tho.

barfo
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Yep, makes perfect sense.

I've wanted to do a lot that iPhone doesn't allow, so I haven't bought one.
 
Not sure if they will exchange it. It's prepaid so the sales person didn't give me options. But tech support said they can program any phone to be prepaid. Both work at same place. No idea who is right.
If I can use any phone and they won't replace, in a little while before this phone died get a new one and transfer data, much easier when phone alive.
Got appointment tomorrow so hopefully can at least sort the damn icons.
 
crandc said:
Not sure if they will exchange it. It's prepaid so the sales person didn't give me options. But tech support said they can program any phone to be prepaid. Both work at same place. No idea who is right.
If I can use any phone and they won't replace, in a little while before this phone died get a new one and transfer data, much easier when phone alive.
Got appointment tomorrow so hopefully can at least sort the damn icons.
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We use Cricket. It's owned by AT&T. Myself, MRS SPD, her mom, and my parents all on the same plan. 5 lines, unlimited 5G, $140 or $28 per line.

If the phone is unlocked you can bring any phone to Cricket.
 
Fuck fuck fuck. When nothing worked made another appointment at ATT store. Even with appointment had quite a wait. Turns out there is no way to alphabetize or otherwise organize icons on this phone.
Also the sales person who said only Alcatel phone can be used for prepaid was wrong. They can program any phone.
But phones can only be exchanged for 14 days. I bought the phone September 13 so am just over the limit.
They said I could come in tomorrow and talk to manager. When I asked if he could override 14 day limit they said almost certainly not.
But I could buy any new phone and they would set it up for me.
If you can imagine saying go fuck yourself without using any actual profanity that was my response..
 
crandc said:
Fuck fuck fuck. When nothing worked made another appointment at ATT store. Even with appointment had quite a wait. Turns out there is no way to alphabetize or otherwise organize icons on this phone.
Also the sales person who said only Alcatel phone can be used for prepaid was wrong. They can program any phone.
But phones can only be exchanged for 14 days. I bought the phone September 13 so am just over the limit.
They said I could come in tomorrow and talk to manager. When I asked if he could override 14 day limit they said almost certainly not.
But I could buy any new phone and they would set it up for me.
If you can imagine saying go fuck yourself without using any actual profanity that was my response..
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How much did you pay for the phone?
 
I feel like relaying my story with my dad and his phone and venting a little bit. I am basically his IT guy, I spend hours every visit fixing his phone, TV, Roku, streaming accounts and anything that is technical. He asks for my advice on tech things to buy like a phone, then he doesn't take my advice and buys the cheapest phone at the store because "why would he pay any extra for all these features that he doesn't understand and won't use." Even though I told him over and over that you don't need to understand the features to benefit from them. He then brags on and on about how much money he saved, even to the point of laughing at how much I would pay for mine. So where does that leave him? With an absolute shit phone that doesn't do anything he wants. Fingerprint scanner doesn't work, face recognition is laughable, apps freeze and crash, camera is just ok, various connection issues, (we share locations) and his updates every 30 minutes if that, the list goes on and on. His take is that tech sucks and is too complicated for him and just never works for him, and I am telling him that he is creating more problems with crappy tech. Guess who gets to fix his phone? Moral of the story, don't buy the cheapest phone available just because your not a tech or phone person. Get something at least mid tier, it will make your life so much easier.
 
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crandc said:
Not your business.
It does work.
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Sorry, I truly wasn't trying to get up in your business.

The reason I asked is that a smartphone is something that you use multiple times a day. It's weird how quickly it has become the average person's most used tool. Every day, for multiple and continually expanding reasons.

Now your new tool/toy/phone is annoying you.

Life has too many big and small annoyances to add one more.

As someone who cooks, bakes, crafts, and gardens at a high level you know literally firsthand what a good tool can do vs putting up with a poor or adequate one.

If the phone cost $200 and ATT won't let you return it I would wipe it and donate it to a woman's shelter. It is a new phone and it would end up in the hands of someone who could really use it. (Also you get a tax deduction.)

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I would try to return it. Even if after the 30 days. If you used a credit card I would read the consumer benefits that come with that card. You might have longer than 30 days with the card. If you don't I would tell ATT that you do.
 
donkiez said:
I feel like relaying my story with my dad and his phone and venting a little bit. I am basically his IT guy, I spend hours every visit fixing his phone, TV, Roku, streaming accounts and anything that is technical. He asks for my advice on tech things to buy like a phone, then he doesn't take my advice and buys the cheapest phone at the store because "why would he pay any extra for all these features that he doesn't understand and won't use." Even though I told him over and over that you don't need to understand the features to benefit from them. He then brags on and on about how much money he saved, even to the point of laughing at how much I would pay for mine. So where does that leave him? With an absolute shit phone that doesn't do anything he wants. Fingerprint scanner doesn't work, face recognition is laughable, apps freeze and crash, camera is just ok, various connection issues, (we share locations) and his updates every 30 minutes if that, the list goes on and on. His take is that tech sucks and is too complicated for him and just never works for him, and I am telling him that he is creating more problems with crappy tech. Guess who gets to fix his phone? Moral of the story, don't buy the cheapest phone available just because your not a tech or phone person. Get something at least mid tier, it will make your life so much easier.
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That's the way that I am with my dad. But I'm lucky that my dad knows to get exactly what I have. When I build or buy a new computer, he has me get him the exact same one. New smartphone, the same. He likes getting new tech and he likes that he can call me and I can normally fix the problem or tell him how to fix the problem because I have exactly the same thing he does.

It makes it sooooo much easier.

With the MIL she doesn't have the same tech budget that my dad has so she gets our hand-me-downs. My old smartphone she gets. Old computer is the same. Makes it really easy to fix problems.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Sorry, I truly wasn't trying to get up in your business.

The reason I asked is that a smartphone is something that you use multiple times a day. It's weird how quickly it has become the average person's most used tool. Every day, for multiple and continually expanding reasons.

Now your new tool/toy/phone is annoying you.

Life has too many big and small annoyances to add one more.

As someone who cooks, bakes, crafts, and gardens at a high level you know literally firsthand what a good tool can do vs putting up with a poor or adequate one.

If the phone cost $200 and ATT won't let you return it I would wipe it and donate it to a woman's shelter. It is a new phone and it would end up in the hands of someone who could really use it. (Also you get a tax deduction.)

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I would try to return it. Even if after the 30 days. If you used a credit card I would read the consumer benefits that come with that card. You might have longer than 30 days with the card. If you don't I would tell ATT that you do.
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Excellent advice. I forgot about the credit card angle.
 
It's been less than 30 days so I will call Master Card and ask their return policy.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Sorry, I truly wasn't trying to get up in your business.

The reason I asked is that a smartphone is something that you use multiple times a day. It's weird how quickly it has become the average person's most used tool. Every day, for multiple and continually expanding reasons.

Now your new tool/toy/phone is annoying you.

Life has too many big and small annoyances to add one more.

As someone who cooks, bakes, crafts, and gardens at a high level you know literally firsthand what a good tool can do vs putting up with a poor or adequate one.

If the phone cost $200 and ATT won't let you return it I would wipe it and donate it to a woman's shelter. It is a new phone and it would end up in the hands of someone who could really use it. (Also you get a tax deduction.)

...

I would try to return it. Even if after the 30 days. If you used a credit card I would read the consumer benefits that come with that card. You might have longer than 30 days with the card. If you don't I would tell ATT that you do.
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My God, you almost sound believable. Did you graduate from Trump University?
You are truly a sly and crafty old dog.
 
Not sure if it got resolved but Prime Early Access has this. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

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