Cern LHC website

[DaLincolnJones]

From my reading I have an understanding of this. Where my amazement arrives from is the break down of the particle as they accelerate. Yes, the gravity created by the machine does pull the particle, the collision is creating results never before seen. When these experts get freaked out and shut down a run, you and I both know they have crossed horizons never before imagined.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

oops I did contradict myself a bit..as you have pointed out if I understand in lay mans terms is the the faster the beam, the less stable it is. Yes, yes..bet the degree of the distortion is beyond what they have ever seen. Both in single and dual beam operation. This crazy overdrive turn it up to eleven mind set is too much to ignore for me.

 

[ripcityboy]

.... Last spoken words at CERN LHC.

"We dipped the cookie in the milk and the sh-t blew up!"

 

[DaLincolnJones]

want an oh my goodness moment..look at the EPS east graph...peg the meter is a past tense

 

[PDXFonz]

Thanks for the updates, I don't understand anything about the science or how to read the graphs. It's nice to have somebody who knows something about it sharing current information. Keep it up!

 

[DaLincolnJones]

ignore my last post. Dont know how I overlooked the obvious. I started to equate power with speed of beam. Wrong. The speed is constant as is the magnetic field. The variable is the amount of power they put to the particles.

The unusual variations of the beam that I called distortion is the event. This is what they wanted to achieve during collision. The break down of the H-B, as that is the glue. I dont think they expected to create this effect without collision and have only recently discovered the ability to do so with single beam and high power.

When these guys state that they are going beyond the standard model, they are not just paying lip service. Now the question is, what have they discovered?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Now the question is, what have they discovered?

That you can make one hell of a mixed drink with a particle collider.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

wow high power beam..


https://vistar-capture.web.cern.ch/vistar-capture/lhcbsrt.png?0.8081883464460818

 

[PDXFonz]

wow high power beam..


https://vistar-capture.web.cern.ch/vistar-capture/lhcbsrt.png?0.8081883464460818

I don't get it, it's just a tiny spec of light... What is so significant?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I don't get it, it's just a tiny spec of light... What is so significant?

Great question. I will try to keep this as short as I can.

The machine that is the particle collider is a 27 KM ring with two pathways that accelerate particles in the opposite direction. These path ways cross at four main points and at these points various measurements and tracking of collisions take place.

The particles released are injected into the system fractions of a second apart where they are almost a single unit. They are accelerated to almost the speed of light. At full speed under normal low power runs, the light pattern is about the size of a silver dollar. Until recently the highest power runs would produce pattern about the size of a nickle. Now they have powered this thing up to the point where it appears as you see.

To break this down a bit, the more power generates more mass. At a point the particle becomes unstable. The bond created by the H-B particle breaks down and at that point the pattern becomes multiple irregular shaped mess. This instability is occurring in single and dual beam runs without collision. They are attempting to be able to control this event as to be able to determine if they are heading toward another dimension, creating some other field..or what? This is where theoretical physics is proven or disproved.

Does this help?

 

[PDXFonz]

Great question. I will try to keep this as short as I can.

The machine that is the particle collider is a 27 KM ring with two pathways that accelerate particles in the opposite direction. These path ways cross at four main points and at these points various measurements and tracking of collisions take place.

The particles released are injected into the system fractions of a second apart where they are almost a single unit. They are accelerated to almost the speed of light. At full speed under normal low power runs, the light pattern is about the size of a silver dollar. Until recently the highest power runs would produce pattern about the size of a nickle. Now they have powered this thing up to the point where it appears as you see.

To break this down a bit, the more power generates more mass. At a point the particle becomes unstable. The bond created by the H-B particle breaks down and at that point the pattern becomes multiple irregular shaped mess. This instability is occurring in single and dual beam runs without collision. They are attempting to be able to control this event as to be able to determine if they are heading toward another dimension, creating some other field..or what? This is where theoretical physics is proven or disproved.

Does this help?

Great information, it does help a bit. You explain how/why the light is generated, but what is the significance of the different sizes? Is it because it allows you to see the reaction of the particle collision and in a sense the nickel sized ball of light is exhaust coming from a tail pipe - visible evidence of a scientific reaction?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Great information, it does help a bit. You explain how/why the light is generated, but what is the significance of the different sizes? Is it because it allows you to see the reaction of the particle collision and in a sense the nickel sized ball of light is exhaust coming from a tail pipe - visible evidence of a scientific reaction?

Without going too far into the weeds. The light you refer too is the beam particles as they travel around the ring. The size is determined by the amount of power (loose term) applied or allowed to the beam. The more power, the smaller the light. None of these are an actual particle collision, they reflect a build up of power and mass to the point that the beam breaks down, becomes unstable and creates its own event.

 

[PDXFonz]

Without going too far into the weeds. The light you refer too is the beam particles as they travel around the ring. The size is determined by the amount of power (loose term) applied or allowed to the beam. The more power, the smaller the light. None of these are an actual particle collision, they reflect a build up of power and mass to the point that the beam breaks down, becomes unstable and creates its own event.

So you can't come to much of a hypothesis as to what they may or may not have been discovered based on the light. Instead it serves as an indicator for how much power they are using on the specific test?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

So you can't come to much of a hypothesis as to what they may or may not have been discovered based on the light. Instead it serves as an indicator for how much power they are using on the specific test?

Well, in a way, I suppose you can think of it as such. The light is really more than an indicator of power. While the machine was built to crash particles together, as an unexpected result of almost tripling the power, they discovered that they can rip apart particles without collision. This is all new stuff.

The theoretical physicists are all over the board as to what they are doing. Some believe that they are in fact opening a portal to another dimension, others believe that they can warp space and time. What they do know is that they can and have harvest dark matter ( or in Star Trek terms, anti matter) this is the most explosive substance known to exist. What they are trying to do at this time is stabilize these events as to determine what they are doing, rather than guess.

 

[PDXFonz]

I predict that they are able to discover things that lead to great advancements in space travel. The whole project certainly is fascinating.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Looks like they are stabilizing high power beam..this is the smallest I have ever seen one..

 

[DaLincolnJones]

camera is live now

 

[jlprk]

camera is live now

7 minutes after you posted that, I was frantically pushing on your video with no results. Now I return and realize the number in the corner is hours:minutes, and it's changed, so I guess I've been seeing the video after all. Why is it so gray, like I'm looking through smoke.

 

[jlprk]

Who are the top quarks? How would you rate the quarks on this board?

I would hazard a guess that the top quark is Denny. He is clearly the big cheese and so there is no quark here more topmost.

Of the board's God particles, Magnifier may be the most peculiarly particulate...but I'll give it to DaLincoln, since this is his thread.

http://www.science20.com/a_quantum_...ms_physics_result_at_13_tev_top_quarks-156890

 

[DaLincolnJones]

https://vistar-capture.web.cern.ch/vistar-capture/lhcbds.png?0.03926676232367754

 

[jlprk]

The theoretical physicists are all over the board as to what they are doing. Some believe that they are in fact opening a portal to another dimension, others believe that they can warp space and time.

Ph.D.s said that? How about links to their blogs?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Ph.D.s said that? How about links to their blogs?

pretty easy to find. It is on their web site. I will try to find it for you tomorrow. Kind of fried at the moment.

 

[jlprk]

Here's a new article. All it shows is that this subject needs a longer article than this to be understood.

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/20...antum-physics-and-the-need-for-a-new-paradigm

 

[DaLincolnJones]

 

[jlprk]

Here's a good elementary article for all you numbskulls who don't understand everything like I do.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...tlefront-beta-exposes-the-games-biggest-flaw/

 

[DaLincolnJones]

dude < if you write script, I am more impressed than with these physicist. You would know what you are doing and they have no idea

 

[DaLincolnJones]

https://op-webtools.web.cern.ch/op-webtools/vistar/vistars.php?usr=CTF3Operation


Looks like they are going to smash some stuff today