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Rastapopoulos said:
Not claiming knowledge. I do think we've had enough time to worry.

Note: I never wanted, and am still glad we did not hire, Jason Kidd, but it's painful to compare the scorelines of the Kidd-coached Mavs and the Chauncey-coached Blazers last night.
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You should preface EVERY one of your posts with...."Not Claiming Knowledge" #BAM
 
e_blazer said:
Today -----> Start of Regular Season -----> Two months to get a representative sample of games -----> Time to start thinking about having this conversation.
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today -------> tonight -------> vodka -------> tomorrow -------> Tylenol
 
Minstrel said:
Honestly, I think getting Nance is likely to make a much bigger difference to the team's success than the coaching change. Nance can actually be a pretty impactful player for this team.
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I was really looking forward to seeing this in the preseason with the ample opportunities he was going to have.
 
Headline is confusing since Terry is also the name of last year’s coach.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Not claiming knowledge. I do think we've had enough time to worry.

Note: I never wanted, and am still glad we did not hire, Jason Kidd, but it's painful to compare the scorelines of the Kidd-coached Mavs and the Chauncey-coached Blazers last night.
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ITS THE PRESEASON WHO CARES?!

if in 35 games we have issues then address them. Right now it looks fucking stupid.
 
Strenuus said:
ITS THE PRESEASON WHO CARES?!

if in 35 games we have issues then address them. Right now it looks fucking stupid.
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my only problem is if we wait until game 35 to address something the season might be lost and with all the rumors of dame wanting out this was supposed to be a turn around year.
 
hoopsjock said:
No one knows if Billups will be a good coach or not, but I think it's pretty unfair to call it either way before giving him a fair chance.
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100% agree. Some folks are trying really hard to make him out to not be a good coach. Others have already spent time talking about how much better he is/will be than our previous coach. I have no clue how either side could come to that conclusion.

I think Billups is likely to be a good, not great coach. If people think he has a great roster (he doesn't), then they're going to think he's doing a bad job, which isn't fair in my opinion.
 
FlashWad said:
I was definitely joking but I think its going to take a long time for him to find his groove. Im not as excited as I was before but still think its possible he could be good.
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Honest question, why were you excited before? Like I’m not fazed by how this team is playing right now, this is exactly what I expected.
 
THE HCP said:
Honest question, why were you excited before? Like I’m not fazed by how this team is playing right now, this is exactly what I expected.
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Hold on, you expected them to get their asses handed to them THIS badly?
 
julius said:
Hold on, you expected them to get their asses handed to them THIS badly?
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I expected us to stumble through the preseason and regular season. 41-41. Rookie coach , less talented roster. We are actually doing WORSE than I thought to be honest.
 
THE HCP said:
Honest question, why were you excited before? Like I’m not fazed by how this team is playing right now, this is exactly what I expected.
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I wanted Terry gone after the Pelicans sweep years ago. I hate how we got swept by the warriors every time we played them and couldn't even win one game. I felt he always got outreached there. So I am just happy to see someone new. I know the cj lillard backcourt will never win though but I thought a new coach would make some diffrence.
 
THE HCP said:
I expected us to stumble through the preseason and regular season. 41-41. Rookie coach , less talented roster. We are actually doing WORSE than I thought to be honest.
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I thought trying to get these guys to play ball with player and ball movement on offense then switching, aggressive, accountable defense was already going to look like shit to start out with. When you couple that with the fact that the guys getting the majority of the PT are going to be undersized and not insanely athletic or lacking in experience... it just doesn't look like a team that will be able to consistently beat the best teams in the league.

If we're at .500 at the end of the season, I think that will put us in the ninth or tenth spot and I don't think we'll win two games in a row against other teams with a similar record, so that will likely have us not making the playoffs. I actually think we'll win closer to 46 games, be in the 7th spot, make the playoffs and get beat badly in the first round again. That's all unless we make a good trade. I personally think that the right trade could make this roster competitive to the point of getting home court and having a good showing in the second round but probably still not making it to the WCF.
 
Tince said:
100% agree. Some folks are trying really hard to make him out to not be a good coach. Others have already spent time talking about how much better he is/will be than our previous coach. I have no clue how either side could come to that conclusion.

I think Billups is likely to be a good, not great coach. If people think he has a great roster (he doesn't), then they're going to think he's doing a bad job, which isn't fair in my opinion.
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I actually think he does have a good roster. At the very least a roster that is capable of doing everything he's said so far.
 
hoopsjock said:
I actually think he does have a good roster. At the very least a roster that is capable of doing everything he's said so far.
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He's got a roster that's starting three guys under 6'4" and a PF that's only 6'7". Oh and none of them are ultra athletic, so it's not going to be like flying around the court, type of small ball.
 
hoopsjock said:
I actually think he does have a good roster. At the very least a roster that is capable of doing everything he's said so far.
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I've said we have a good roster. In my post I said " If people think he has a great roster". Do you think our roster is great? contending?

If you think it's a great roster and Billups is going to be better than Stotts, I would imagine you have high expectations this year.
 
Tince said:
I've said we have a good roster. In my post I said " If people think he has a great roster". Do you think our roster is great? contending?

If you think it's a great roster and Billups is going to be better than Stotts, I would imagine you have high expectations this year.
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Yes, I do have high expectations. They'll be a top-4 seed.
 
blazerkor said:
He's got a roster that's starting three guys under 6'4" and a PF that's only 6'7". Oh and none of them are ultra athletic, so it's not going to be like flying around the court, type of small ball.
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Do you play basketball with the top of your head? Standing reach and wingspan are way more important than height. Besides you don't have to be super athletic to be a good defender or to be part of a good team defense.
 
hoopsjock said:
Yes, I do have high expectations. They'll be a top-4 seed.
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I love your optimism and I want you to be right!

No spinning things if they fall short though! Again, I want you to be right, I'd love another top 4 seed!
 
Pretty much everyone agrees it was time to move on from Stotts.
I like Billups and i think he deserves an honest chance. I just don't see him working through the roster problems and i also see them failing to score when they need to.
Offense will obviously struggle mightily at times. Huge dead zones will plague this team on the offensive end. They have no one to rely on to "Make a Bucket" when Lillard is locked down.
Defense to this point looks to be in disarray and players have not even begun to give effort they need to impress. Seems like everyone is still feeling their way around the court.
Nurk will continue to be Nurk.

This next game looks like another humbling experience. The Warriors will walk to an easy victory tonight. Blazers cannot defend them and they cannot score well enough to keep them honest.
 
THE HCP said:
I expected us to stumble through the preseason and regular season. 41-41. Rookie coach , less talented roster. We are actually doing WORSE than I thought to be honest.
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Worse? We haven’t played a game yet.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I will be ecstatic to be proved wrong, but I also worry that we're going to wish we'd traded Dame in the Summer when all the shit about his trade demands was flying around. I wouldn't mind Chauncey finding his feet with a rebuilding team. In a way, it would be fairer to him: he could shape it from scratch instead of trying to remake a team that has Stotts' system so deeply ingrained.
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This is a horrible take.

If we traded Dame a few months ago I would've wished for the rest of my life I could've seen a few games of him under a different coach.

Now, if Billups fails this season and the Blazers cant do a trade to contend with Dame they could always go look at trading Dame. His value won't be much different during the season or next summer than it was a few months ago. Trying to win with Dame and Billups doesn't have much if any downside.

Trading Dame without giving him a full chance to win would've been a crime to Dame, the Blazers franchise, and all Blazers fans for eternity.
 
Chauncey not looking great at this point.
New defense sucks and he broke the offense.
 
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