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looked like a one on one match up between harris and rose. i'd say rose won.
 
farouq710 said:
I think this whole Devin= AI business has to end. Vince is the better overall player yet he is the second option in the 4th quarter?? I don't get it.
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I think it's because Carter plays better off the ball than Harris. When Harris has the ball Carter is the better spot up shooter than when Vince has the ball and Harris is spotting up.

But the real problem is the defense.

A few days ago I made a thread suggesting the Nets be a true run and gun team because they don't seem to and probably wont end up being a defensive team with the current players. They don't have anyone who sets a defensive tone that filters through the rest of the team and Frank has for the longest time not been able to make the Nets play consistent defense throughout the season.

But Harris and Carter can set an offensive tone. Harris would have more opportunities to get out in the open floor and use his speed for fast break points. Hayes has shown he can run the floor well. Yi has speed to run. Carter can pull up for transition 3's. Simmons would have to be replaced though.
 
I say it again, frank's small ball just doesn't work, he has three choice, if he still want to play small ball, put boone in instead of lopez, even put yi in is the better answer, other two choice, if he doesn't trust yi, put boone and lopez in together, if he trust Yi, put the starting lineup in when in the fourth quarter.

I explain why, lopez is too slow, he can't spread the floor well but boone and yi can, three defenders collapse to DH and VC, other guys can't hit a shot, and lopez isn't a good defense center, so this cast just doesn't work.
 
ebc said:
I say it again, frank's small ball just doesn't work, he has three choice, if he still want to play small ball, put boone in instead of lopez, even put yi in is the better answer, other two choice, if he doesn't trust yi, put boone and lopez in together, if he trust Yi, put the starting lineup in when in the fourth quarter.

I explain why, lopez is too slow, he can't spread the floor well but boone and yi can, three defenders collapse to DH and VC, other guys can't hit a shot, and lopez isn't a good defense center, so this cast just doesn't work.
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The Nets lose, because of the fuck sucking defense.

Not because of Lopez, Lopez was doing great in the paint, and our shooters suck.

And Lopez is not slow, thanks.
 
ebc said:
I say it again, frank's small ball just doesn't work, he has three choice, if he still want to play small ball, put boone in instead of lopez, even put yi in is the better answer, other two choice, if he doesn't trust yi, put boone and lopez in together, if he trust Yi, put the starting lineup in when in the fourth quarter.

I explain why, lopez is too slow, he can't spread the floor well but boone and yi can, three defenders collapse to DH and VC, other guys can't hit a shot, and lopez isn't a good defense center, so this cast just doesn't work.
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What?

Yi is horrible. He is the only player in the league where he has been block by the rim four times this season.

Saw that on www.slamonline.com

Yi can not defend a 5 year old. Yet alone an nba player
 
funny, sounds exactly like the bulls forum. I think you guys have more sure keepers than the bulls do. Rose is the only one. Lopez and Harris are for sure keepers for the nets. You guys just had the misfortune to make the bulls look good tonight.
 
I didn't see this game, but I've seen most of the Bulls games this season.

No problem with Frank going small - the Bulls played 3 guards a lot of the time: Hughes, Gordon, and Rose. Frank was matching up with that and playing the lineup he likes at the same time.

The Bulls also play a lot of zone with their small lineup, so quickness and slashing to the basket are not that effective.

Carter and Harris shot about 50% of the team's shots and shot nearly 50%. The rest of the team shot about 20%.
 
bullshooter said:
funny, sounds exactly like the bulls forum. I think you guys have more sure keepers than the bulls do. Rose is the only one. Lopez and Harris are for sure keepers for the nets. You guys just had the misfortune to make the bulls look good tonight.
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The Nets really suck at their home, and nobody knows why.
 
Why did nets play well in the third quarter, because Yi can spreed the floor well even he can't hit a fucking shot, he still took some pressure off DH and VC, and he rebound well, do a good defense.
 
ebc said:
Why did nets play well in the third quarter, because Yi can spreed the floor well even he can't hit a fucking shot, he still took some pressure off DH and VC, and he rebound well, do a good defense.
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Explain why the Nets sucked in the first quarter while Yi was in the game.

The diffrence was that Harris was making his shots in the third quarter.

We don't need Yi just stands beyong the arc, and missed most of the shots.

Lopez can post up, and create for our shooters.
 
DevinNets34 said:
The Nets really suck at their home, and nobody knows why.
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Probably has something to do with Harris and VC taking all your shots no matter what. The Nets allowed the bulls to hide BG on Simmons and Simmons only took 6 shots. He only posted BG up once. Nets are real easy to defense if they don't try and exploit matchups. Just collapse on Harris and VC. Nobody else gets in a rhythm, other team doesn't have to adjust.
 
in the last bobcat game coach Brown put a shooting guard on Yi. What does that tell ya...
 
bullshooter said:
Probably has something to do with Harris and VC taking all your shots no matter what. The Nets allowed the bulls to hide BG on Simmons and Simmons only took 6 shots. He only posted BG up once. Nets are real easy to defense if they don't try and exploit matchups. Just collapse on Harris and VC. Nobody else gets in a rhythm, other team doesn't have to adjust.
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Noah is the 2nd version of Varejao, he hustles, and that's one of the reasons that the Nets lost.

You bulls is really great, Hughes Noah Nocioci are too good to play off the bench.

The Nets always play zone defense, and your shooters can shoot anyway like hell.
 
DevinNets34 said:
Noah is the 2nd version of Varejao, he hustles, and that's one of the reasons that the Nets lost.

You bulls is really great, Hughes Noah Nocioci are too good to play off the bench.

The Nets always play zone defense, and your shooters can shoot anyway like hell.
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They only look good against the nets. They are everybit as mediocre as the nets are, and the bulls record bears that out. Hughes, Noah, Noc, TT, Thabo, even BG and all the rest look good every third or fourth game, but they are just as inconsistent as anybody on the nets. The one positive things is most of the guys are under 24, so there is still time. And TT is starting to show flashes so there is hope.
 
bullshooter said:
Probably has something to do with Harris and VC taking all your shots no matter what. The Nets allowed the bulls to hide BG on Simmons and Simmons only took 6 shots. He only posted BG up once. Nets are real easy to defense if they don't try and exploit matchups. Just collapse on Harris and VC. Nobody else gets in a rhythm, other team doesn't have to adjust.
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They can't exploit that Simmons-Gordon match up because Simmons is a disaster when he tries to post up or put the ball on the floor. In years past the Nets could use Kidd, Carter, or Jefferson to post up and wear down Gordon. They can't now with Simmons on the floor.
 
NOMAM said:
They can't exploit that Simmons-Gordon match up because Simmons is a disaster when he tries to post up or put the ball on the floor. In years past the Nets could use Kidd, Carter, or Jefferson to post up and wear down Gordon. They can't now with Simmons on the floor.
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We miss Jefferson.

Sigh .. Kiki.
 
bullshooter said:
They only look good against the nets. They are everybit as mediocre as the nets are, and the bulls record bears that out. Hughes, Noah, Noc, TT, Thabo, even BG and all the rest look good every third or fourth game, but they are just as inconsistent as anybody on the nets. The one positive things is most of the guys are under 24, so there is still time. And TT is starting to show flashes so there is hope.
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So The Nets made bull looked really great tonight

And that's what the Nets are made for ... They even made Knicks looked a competive team.
 
DevinNets34 said:
Explain why the Nets sucked in the first quarter while Yi was in the game.

The diffrence was that Harris was making his shots in the third quarter.

We don't need Yi just stands beyong the arc, and missed most of the shots.

Lopez can post up, and create for our shooters.
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Go to watch all the nets video tapes this season, and study study study hard, you will agree with me, the truth isn't what you see on the surface.
 
ebc said:
Go to watch all the nets video tapes this season, and study study study hard, you will agree with me, the truth isn't what you see on the surface.
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Sorry but iwatch every game and don't need to study because i actually know how the game is played. Yi hasnt done a damn thing since the dallas game end of story. Him being on the floor didnt do a damn thing as to why we played well in the 3rd, it was Harris hitting shots.
 
ebc said:
Go to watch all the nets video tapes this season, and study study study hard, you will agree with me, the truth isn't what you see on the surface.
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wake up, I watch every nets ball game, you don't know what basketball is...

Good luck, little boy.
 
Man i knew Rose was going to be gr8, he play'd an excellent game.

with 16 mins of play, 1-6 from the field, 0-1 from 3.... this is why we lost the game, thanks Yi

with 41 mins of play, 8-20 from the field, 0-3 from 3 and 4 TOs... this has no influence on the loss, good stuff Devin (insert sarcasm)

gotta luv how YI (i agree needs to improve) remains the weak link and lets totally ignore the bad play from everyone else.... *sigh*

Why is it our players play so bad and a bit lost and yet the gr8 COACH we have who babbles the same old sh*t game afta game bears no pressure??? i know everyone is going to say we're rebuilding, but how about we make it completely rebuilding by bringing in a new coach. a coach that doesnt scream all game throwing out plays to everyone....

One was apparent to me, there was no hustle, perhaps spurts but hardly it was casual and lethargic(as is many games) there's no fight in them except for Vince who's the only guy i see get pumped up, everyone else seem worried about making a mistake... Brook what happen? he was horrible in D tonight and against Gray too! he was slow on the help D...

Noah and TT are garbage! no way they should've been outplayin us but then again we make everyone look like all stars due to our terrific and every constant Zone D!!! ooo scary lol

nah for real, Rose is the next big thing.
 
The posting up Gordon strategy is overrated. It just doesn't work that well, yet teams continue to try it. Most perimeter players simply don't have post up skills in the NBA. Your team, when you had the Big 3, were the only ones able to truly take advantage of this, because all three players could post up effectively.
 
ToddMacCulloch11 said:
He's going to be ridiculous
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The really scary thing is that he came into a situation where his wingman is a perfect complement. Rose is a penetrating point guard, and he came into a situation where he is going to play with one of the best shooters in NBA history. (Gordon will undoubtedly finish in the top three with Reggie Miller and Ray Allen in three pointers if he doesn't sustain a serious injury).

The Bulls backcourt is just sizzling. They still have a crappy front court though, but if Paxson ever finds a solution to the front court woes, his Gasol moment, the Bulls will be a hard team to beat.
 
The Nets lose, because they let every opponent shoot like Reggie Miller + Larry Bird, there is nothing to do with Lopez.

When Nocioni made that three in the 4th quarter, that's the sign of lose.
 
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