Chicken Soup for the Blazer Fanatic

[magnifier661]

I'm not for it, but I would absolutely trade the 10 fewer games in the regular season for adding 4 more teams from each conference to the play-offs. It would be like adding 4 wild card games.

And the best two teams get a round bye

 

[Draco]

If the NBA is dead set on an 82 game season another idea is to begin games earlier. Say we only had 2 preseason games and a one week training camp with games beginning Sep 20th. That would add 40 rest days to space between games throughout the year.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

And the best two teams get a round bye

I miss typed, and edited before you responded.

 

[TBpup]

Every year, the Blazers and the Heat travel the most miles for their schedules. That isn't likely to change any time soon unless there is some dramatic tectonic plate shifting.

Yes, the Spurs have their "Rodeo Road Trip" where they player 12-13 games in a row on the road some years because a huge rodeo takes over their venue.

When did it become necessary to F... anything because of differing opinions? Does an opinion outside of what someone else thinks make them not a Blazer fan? Still fairly new to this board so learning what the board culture is like. Having played basketball at a high level and a having a best friend play at a D1 level with the #1 pick in the entire NBA, and doing some work with the Blazers for my career I find it interesting that some opinions are 'valid' and others are not just depending on whom you happen to agree with.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

If the NBA is dead set on an 82 game season another idea is to begin games earlier. Say we only had 2 preseason games and a one week training camp with games beginning Sep 20th. That would add 40 rest days to space between games throughout the year.

I think pre-season is an important part of improving the product though. The only solution that makes sense to me is reducing the number of reg season games, by either 6 or 10 games, and perhaps adding 4 teams to the play-offs to help counter some of that lost revenue.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

When did it become necessary to F... anything because of differing opinions? Does an opinion outside of what someone else thinks make them not a Blazer fan? Still fairly new to this board so learning what the board culture is like. Having played basketball at a high level and a having a best friend play at a D1 level with the #1 pick in the entire NBA, and doing some work with the Blazers for my career I find it interesting that some opinions are 'valid' and others are not just depending on whom you happen to agree with.

The spurs still do that, as does Chi when the Circus is in town. Regardless of the solutions, it is a well accepted reality that 4 games in 5 nights makes for some less-than-ideal quality basketball.

If you're the guy that tells the comedian after the show, "You know, a little less cussing would really make your humor more enjoyable," then I accept your point as "valid" and will refrain from responding as the comedian would. Sorry if you were offended, but I'm not forcing anyone to read or laugh at my jokes, and it's not like I'm charging anyone either. Although I should!!!

I was a big deal in college too, and it's not relevant in this discussion, and most discussions on this forum. I also drank an entire pitcher of beer without pause to get my class ring out of it. Quite the accomplishment for a person of my stature - but again, not really relevant. Of course, people that don't agree with me are extremely stupid. And, if you didn't laugh at that, all hope is lost.

 

[TBpup]

I was a big deal in college too, and it's not relevant in this discussion, and most discussions on this forum. I also drank an entire pitcher of beer without pause to get my class ring out of it. Quite the accomplishment for a person of my stature - but again, not really relevant. Of course, people that don't agree with me are extremely stupid. And, if you didn't laugh at that, all hope is lost.

So if you played in college, I would submit you have a better understanding of the game, the schemes, the travel schedule, the mental fatigue, the coaching tendencies, the treatment, the training....all the things that go into the realities of the game and I would submit that makes your understanding potentially more relevant than someone who never played the game but just grew up as a fan. That doesn't invalidate their opinion but without experiencing some of those things, it's difficult to understand them. Saying someone's opinion is or is not relevant seems quite arbitrary but like I said, still learning the culture of this forum. I'm just surprised at how many opinions are dismissed as 'troll', 'hater', 'you-are-not-a-Blazer-fan' etc because they differ with someone else.

 

[Draco]

So if you played in college, I would submit you have a better understanding of the game, the schemes, the travel schedule, the mental fatigue, the coaching tendencies, the treatment, the training....all the things that go into the realities of the game and I would submit that makes your understanding potentially more relevant than someone who never played the game but just grew up as a fan. That doesn't invalidate their opinion but without experiencing some of those things, it's difficult to understand them. Saying someone's opinion is or is not relevant seems quite arbitrary but like I said, still learning the culture of this forum. I'm just surprised at how many opinions are dismissed as 'troll', 'hater', 'you-are-not-a-Blazer-fan' etc because they differ with someone else.

Did your sense of humor get stuck on a flight in Minnesota?

I think its a long ways apart from Blazer Fanatics.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm just surprised at how many opinions are dismissed as 'troll', 'hater', 'you-are-not-a-Blazer-fan' etc because they differ with someone else.

You also need to interpret these kinds of statements based on the poster. BF (and others) do it as a joke. Others do it out of emotion. Still others are completely serious. Context is key.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Did your sense of humor get stuck on a flight in Minnesota?

I think its a long ways apart from Blazer Fanatics.

Dude--check his avatar. Humor is illogical.

 

[TBpup]

You also need to interpret these kinds of statements based on the poster. BF (and others) do it as a joke. Others do it out of emotion. Still others are completely serious. Context is key.

Thanks...Like I said, new here and still learning who is whom and what they post like. Some people joke and some get so personal you'd think someone stole their sippy cup. All in good fun. Believe me, I laughed every time I saw BF take Ben G to task.

 

[Draco]

Dude--check his avatar. Humor is illogical.

Ahh good point! I have all images turned off.

 

[Further]

just a small aside to the original post. Sterile inflammation, such as we are discussing, does not fully go away in a week as the OP stated. At least the systemic affects of sterile inflammation may last much longer in some people, in certain cases even years of low level increases of mapk kinase production for example, although in most people the levels do drop off precipitously, and increased macrophage production also tends to revert to pre-insult conditions withing the week.

OK, back to topic

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

So if you played in college, I would submit you have a better understanding of the game, the schemes, the travel schedule, the mental fatigue, the coaching tendencies, the treatment, the training....all the things that go into the realities of the game and I would submit that makes your understanding potentially more relevant than someone who never played the game but just grew up as a fan. That doesn't invalidate their opinion but without experiencing some of those things, it's difficult to understand them. Saying someone's opinion is or is not relevant seems quite arbitrary but like I said, still learning the culture of this forum. I'm just surprised at how many opinions are dismissed as 'troll', 'hater', 'you-are-not-a-Blazer-fan' etc because they differ with someone else.

Maybe I have a greater understanding. Maybe I don't, and it's just common sense. And, maybe it's not common sense, or more people would agree with my OP on the matter of fatigue in 4 game in 5 night situations. I don't know that it makes my opinion more relevant, but certainly I am more confident that I can support my opinion having had experience.

Context is everything. If I am critical of Portland, you aren't going to think I'm trolling to get a rise out of Blazer fans. But, you would of some other individual who do nothing but suggest trade after trade, and offer negative take after negative take about it, especially and often exclusively after a Blazer loss. You are correct that the perception of a negative take does not, in itself, constitute trolling. But when it's dead quiet until the Blazers lose a game (the 4th game in 5 nights) and there is a giant influx of complaining from habitual offenders, that's context we can't ignore when considering the merits of these individuals' opinions.

If the Blazers had issues during a loss, I can assure you that, other than fatigue, those problems existed during wins. Where was the complaining then? Context matters. I'm am cognizant and make a consorted effort to separate individual opinion between those who seek to get a rise out of Blazer fans, those who's opinion lack "common sense", and those who simply have a different perspective. And, sometimes, I make mistakes. You can tell a lot by one's reactions. You would agree that a troll would have responded to me very differently than you did ya?

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Dude--check his avatar. Humor is illogical.

IKR? lol It's ok. He's nice, so I don't mind explaining myself to nice people, even when it is so much easier to poke fun.

 

[TBpup]

Context is everything. If I am critical of Portland, you aren't going to think I'm trolling to get a rise out of Blazer fans. But, you would of some other individual who do nothing but suggest trade after trade, and offer negative take after negative take about it, especially and often exclusively after a Blazer loss. You are correct that the perception of a negative take does not, in itself, constitute trolling. But when it's dead quiet until the Blazers lose a game (the 4th game in 5 nights) and there is a giant influx of complaining from habitual offenders, that's context we can't ignore when considering the merits of these individuals' opinions.

If the Blazers had issues during a loss, I can assure you that, other than fatigue, those problems existed during wins. Where was the complaining then? Context matters. I'm am cognizant and make a consorted effort to separate individual opinion between those who seek to get a rise out of Blazer fans, those who's opinion lack "common sense", and those who simply have a different perspective. And, sometimes, I make mistakes. You can tell a lot by one's reactions. You would agree that a troll would have responded to me very differently than you did ya?

Very well stated. I imagine we would have a great discussion at one of the various Blazers gatherings.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

just a small aside to the original post. Sterile inflammation, such as we are discussing, does not fully go away in a week as the OP stated. At least the systemic affects of sterile inflammation may last much longer in some people, in certain cases even years of low level increases of mapk kinase production for example, although in most people the levels do drop off precipitously, and increased macrophage production also tends to revert to pre-insult conditions withing the week.

OK, back to topic

DOMS - and the soreness and pain associated with DOMS (which could very well explain the sluggish 1st half, and why the 2nd half was much improved) does subside after a week. Inflammation is caused by many factors, is unique to the individual, and is not a guaranteed symptom of DOMS. I was speaking in general terms, and specifically about DOMS and it's effects, not specifically about inflammation that could be the result of many other factors. But, it's good food for the brain.

 

[TBpup]

Dude--check his avatar. Humor is illogical.

Logically, I find your statement quite....humorous. In a logical way of course.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Very well stated. I imagine we would have a great discussion at one of the various Blazers gatherings.

Just call me Captain Kirk from now on. LOL

 

[TBpup]

Just call me Captain Kirk from now on. LOL

Now that is funny!

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm not even upset about our starters having a ho-hum evening. Dame was on fire, Aldridge would have had a great game if it wasn't for Love's near trip dub, and Batum had a decent outing. Wes was off, and Lopez definitely struggled last night. It was the bench.

The starters had kept us pretty close until Mo came in and then it was just..... wow..... it was like a torpedo had just blown a hole in the side of the SS Trail Blazer and we were taking on massive amounts of water. We got the hole patched, but by that time we had taken on so much water that the ship could not be saved. That didn't stop First Mate Lillard from trying desperately to pump water out of the compartments below deck, but with Seaman Williams letting water into other parts of the ship, there simply wasn't enough time to save her. The water washed over the rails and the SS Trail Blazer was swallowed up by the sea.

 

[magnifier661]

I'm not even upset about our starters having a ho-hum evening. Dame was on fire, Aldridge would have had a great game if it wasn't for Love's near trip dub, and Batum had a decent outing. Wes was off, and Lopez definitely struggled last night. It was the bench.

The starters had kept us pretty close until Mo came in and then it was just..... wow..... it was like a torpedo had just blown a hole in the side of the SS Trail Blazer and we were taking on massive amounts of water. We got the hole patched, but by that time we had taken on so much water that the ship could not be saved. That didn't stop First Mate Lillard from trying desperately to pump water out of the compartments below deck, but with Seaman Williams letting water into other parts of the ship, there simply wasn't enough time to save her. The water washed over the rails and the SS Trail Blazer was swallowed up by the sea.

Hahahahaha! Repped

 

[TBpup]

Seaman Williams in his current form is a threat to the nautical worthiness of the S.S Blazer.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Now that is funny!

It's hard work sometimes.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

I'm not even upset about our starters having a ho-hum evening. Dame was on fire, Aldridge would have had a great game if it wasn't for Love's near trip dub, and Batum had a decent outing. Wes was off, and Lopez definitely struggled last night. It was the bench.

The starters had kept us pretty close until Mo came in and then it was just..... wow..... it was like a torpedo had just blown a hole in the side of the SS Trail Blazer and we were taking on massive amounts of water. We got the hole patched, but by that time we had taken on so much water that the ship could not be saved. That didn't stop First Mate Lillard from trying desperately to pump water out of the compartments below deck, but with Seaman Williams letting water into other parts of the ship, there simply wasn't enough time to save her. The water washed over the rails and the SS Trail Blazer was swallowed up by the sea.

Was waiting for the Seaman reference. You did not disappoint. /sigh

 

[Further]

DOMS - and the soreness and pain associated with DOMS (which could very well explain the sluggish 1st half, and why the 2nd half was much improved) does subside after a week. Inflammation is caused by many factors, is unique to the individual, and is not a guaranteed symptom of DOMS. I was speaking in general terms, and specifically about DOMS and it's effects, not specifically about inflammation that could be the result of many other factors. But, it's good food for the brain.

I understand this, but I have worked on inflammation for a few years so I figured I would correct a tiny flaw in your statement. Although for all practical purposes you are correct. If you wait tables for a living a someone refers to a glass of wine as being 6oz, you might correct them and say it's 5oz(red), but that doesn't really matter either.

 

[Natebishop3]

Was waiting for the Seaman reference. You did not disappoint. /sigh

Brian is a Seaman

(actually he's probably an E7 or an E8 by now)

 

[TBpup]

I understand this, but I have worked on inflammation for a few years so I figured I would correct a tiny flaw in your statement. Although for all practical purposes you are correct. If you wait tables for a living a someone refers to a glass of wine as being 6oz, you might correct them and say it's 5oz(red), but that doesn't really matter either.

Bring the whole bottle please.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

I understand this, but I have worked on inflammation for a few years so I figured I would correct a tiny flaw in your statement. Although for all practical purposes you are correct. If you wait tables for a living a someone refers to a glass of wine as being 6oz, you might correct them and say it's 5oz(red), but that doesn't really matter either.

If you have medical experience, then you should know that "disappears up to 7 days" is not a definitive statement for ALL cases. It is always dependent on the individual circumstances.

 

[Further]

If you have medical experience, then you should know that "disappears up to 7 days" is not a definitive statement for ALL cases. It is always dependent on the individual circumstances.

No medical experience. I work in a microbiology lab at OHSU as a lab tech.


Anyway, forget my whole line of posts, there was really no reason for me to even bring it up. I just happened to be finishing up an experiment about exactly this right before I read you post and so responded in an overly tangential way.

Love that clip in your sig!