OT Christchurch shooting: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques – live updates

[riverman]

According to the 2010 FBI crime data, since 1980, single victim killings have dropped by more than 40 percent. While that's very good news, there's a new sobering trend: Mass murders are on the rise. This New York Times article researched the frequency of mass murders. It found during the 20th century there were about one to two mass murders per decade until 1980. Then for no apparent reason they spiked, with nine during the 1980s and 11 in the 1990s. Since the year 2000 there have been at least 26, including the massacre in Aurora, Colorado.

 

[CupWizier]

According to the 2010 FBI crime data, since 1980, single victim killings have dropped by more than 40 percent. While that's very good news, there's a new sobering trend: Mass murders are on the rise. This New York Times article researched the frequency of mass murders. It found during the 20th century there were about one to two mass murders per decade until 1980. Then for no apparent reason they spiked, with nine during the 1980s and 11 in the 1990s. Since the year 2000 there have been at least 26, including the massacre in Aurora, Colorado.

I think jade is using Kelly Ann Conways book of alternative facts.

 

[Natebishop3]

I have a knee jerk reaction when I put my hand over a hot flame. It's a good thing too else I'm gonna get badly hurt.

No. You pulling your hand away is addressing the immediate pain of the flame. The knee jerk reaction would be banning open flames so that you would never burn your hand again.

 

[riverman]

The knee jerk reaction would be banning open flames so that you would never burn your hand again.

those pesky gas station rules...

 

[Natebishop3]

those pesky gas station rules...

They don't let us have any fun.

 

[jonnyboy]

There are 3 types of murder...single, serial and mass....of the 3 single murders have declined since 1980 as has organized crime coincidentally...mass murders ARE on the rise substantially as are racially, culturally profiled murders. Serial murders are harder to pinpoint because they often cover multiple decades. Mass murder is defined by the FBI as 4 or more victims in one incident..

Chop it up how you want. Less people are dying at the hands of another person.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Chop it up how you want. Less people are dying at the hands of another person.

In the meantime, millions of people are on some sort of medication that gets into our water. Not surprised there are a few nutjobs running around.

 

[jonnyboy]

Deaths by firearm have been on the increase since 1999 (prior before 1999 not available). That's a bad trend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Murderers are using a different means to accomplish their task, but there are less murders happening period. A lot less.

Shit, if I wanted to twist statistics to my preference the way most news outlets do, I could even suggest that perhaps guns now being used as the primary weapon of choice coincides with the decreasing murder rate, and maybe it’s a contributing factor to less murder. I don’t necessarily believe that, but I wouldn’t be statistically wrong.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Murderers are using a different means to accomplish their task, but there are less murders happening period. A lot less.

Shit, if I wanted to twist statistics to my preference the way most news outlets do, I could even suggest that perhaps guns now being used as the primary weapon of choice coincides with the decreasing murder rate, and maybe it’s a contributing factor to less murder. I don’t necessarily believe that, but I wouldn’t be statistically wrong.

It is cameras everywhere that cause the shootings. Can't walk up and choke someone out, you'll get caught on camera.

Seriously, surveillance cameras probably help lower murder statistics.

 

[jonnyboy]

In the meantime, millions of people are on some sort of medication that gets into our water. Not surprised there are a few nutjobs running around.

Hey let’s get some more children on pharmaceutical drugs when they get too boisterous while we’re at it. Couldn’t possibly go wrong.

 

[riverman]

Chop it up how you want.

Read the OP....this is a thread about a mass killing by one guy...that's all the chopping up you need to know. The scale of these things is appalling.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Took guns away and banned the gunman's manifesto in New Zealand.

Sounds awful fascist of them.

 

[riverman]

Took guns away and banned the gunman's manifesto in New Zealand.

Sounds awful fascist of them.

best case scenario...all the assholes leave New Zealand and move to Los Angeles where they can build a gun out of Home Depot parts and hang with their homies..you're lucky in LA if people even report a dead body unless it's between them and the "view"

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[jonnyboy]

Such a stupid, childish overreaction. Nobody is reading the manifesto, “getting ideas” and beating off to the thought of shooting people. People are genuinely curious as to why someone would commit such a horrible crime, they are looking for answers. Governments need to back the fuck up with their book-burning.

 

[barfo]

Such a stupid, childish overreaction. Nobody is reading the manifesto, “getting ideas” and beating off to the thought of shooting people. People are genuinely curious as to why someone would commit such a horrible crime, they are looking for answers. Governments need to back the fuck up with their book-burning.

I agree with you that banning it is NOT the answer. However, it is unlikely that nobody is reading the manifesto and getting ideas. This guy himself reportedly got inspiration from Anders Breivik's manifesto.

barfo

 

[CupWizier]

Such a stupid, childish overreaction. Nobody is reading the manifesto, “getting ideas” and beating off to the thought of shooting people. People are genuinely curious as to why someone would commit such a horrible crime, they are looking for answers. Governments need to back the fuck up with their book-burning.

What is childish is how cowardly the republicans are when it comes to the NRA and their refusal to try and do anything. How many more have to happen before they get off their ass and do something?

 

[jonnyboy]

What is childish is how cowardly the republicans are when it comes to the NRA and their refusal to try and do anything. How many more have to happen before they get off their ass and do something?

What’s really childish is when you go to a restaurant and they get your order wrong, and on top of that, the food is cold! Don’t you hate that?

 

[MarAzul]

Took guns away and banned the gunman's manifesto in New Zealand.

Sounds awful fascist of them.

Think about it!
An ex commie Aussie that lost his gun rights in Austraila, comes to New Zealand and raises hell with a gun. This some how to trigger the gun hate in the US, which worked.

Now all of the people of New Zealand are about to loose their right to means of self protection that all people have a right to under natural law.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I agree with you that banning it is NOT the answer. However, it is unlikely that nobody is reading the manifesto and getting ideas. This guy himself reportedly got inspiration from Anders Breivik's manifesto.

barfo

Hmmm. Or maybe someone is being told they can't read the manifesto and now they're adding that to their own manifesto for when they do their own mass shooting

 

[barfo]

Hmmm. Or maybe someone is being told they can't read the manifesto and now they're adding that to their own manifesto for when they do their own mass shooting

There's no need to talk about yourself in the third person.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

There's no need to talk about yourself in the third person.

barfo

I sooo want to write a manifesto but my novel just never gets done.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I sooo want to write a bodymanifesto but my novel just never gets done.

FTFY

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

FTFY

Thanks for the title. Think I'll write it. First chapter is about @Orion Bailey no showing on the paint party.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think 5001 pages should cover the grievances with all you bitches.

The worst ones anyway.

 

[barfo]

I think 5001 pages should cover the grievances with all you bitches.

The worst ones anyway.

I suggest 2 pages on Sly, and 4999 pages on me.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

No. You pulling your hand away is addressing the immediate pain of the flame. The knee jerk reaction would be banning open flames so that you would never burn your hand again.

Here's Webster's definition - "an involuntary forward kick produced by a light blow on the tendon below the patella", "occurring quickly and without thought", "often reacting quickly and without thought".
One of their synonyms is 'instinctual'.
All of this seems to fit pulling your hand away from a hot flame to a tee.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knee-jerk

 

[Lanny]

Such a stupid, childish overreaction. Nobody is reading the manifesto, “getting ideas” and beating off to the thought of shooting people. People are genuinely curious as to why someone would commit such a horrible crime, they are looking for answers. Governments need to back the fuck up with their book-burning.

The wrong people love that stuff.

 

[Lanny]

Such a stupid, childish overreaction. Nobody is reading the manifesto, “getting ideas” and beating off to the thought of shooting people. People are genuinely curious as to why someone would commit such a horrible crime, they are looking for answers. Governments need to back the fuck up with their book-burning.

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An arson investigation is underway at the Islamic Center of Escondido in Escondido, Calif., early Sunday, March 24, 2019. A note referencing the recent terrorist attacks in New Zealand was found at the scene of the possible arson fire at the Southern California mosque, police said Sunday.(Ramon Galindo/KNSD TV/NBC via AP)
ESCONDIDO, Calif. (AP) — A note referencing the recent terrorist attacks in New Zealand was found at the scene of a possible arson fire at a Southern California mosque, police said Sunday.

Nobody was hurt, and members of the Islamic Center of Escondido were able to extinguish the small blaze before firefighters around 3:15 a.m., officials said.

The incident was being investigated as arson and a possible hate crime, said police in the city about 30 miles (48 kilometers) north of downtown San Diego.

A note was found in the parking lot referencing the shootings this month that killed 50 people at mosques in the city of Christchurch, New Zealand, police Lt. Chris Lick said. He did not elaborate about the contents of the note."

https://www.apnews.com/20d80737af7545cea264a16b86590c39

 

[Orion Bailey]

I think 5001 pages should cover the grievances with all you bitches.

The worst ones anyway.

Maybe the first chapter anyhow....