CJ MCCOLLUM APPRECIATION THREAD!

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Rozay said:
Meh the whole team sucks man it’s been the same shit since LMA left. Let this season end and we’ll go a new direction
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The whole team sucks because they are not getting consistent touches in the offense then they are blamed when they miss the few opportunities they get... this has been my whole point on why I’m so against the McLillard duo... not only the defensive liability of an all under 6’3” backcourt which is obvious, but also the stagnation that is unavoidable in the offense when you have 2 players taking half the shots... nothing will change until we trade CJ
 
It's kind of hard to watch CJ this year. He seems to have more difficulty in just about everything. Even the basic shots he was almost automatic on are harder.
 
ripcityboy said:
It's kind of hard to watch CJ this year. He seems to have more difficulty in just about everything. Even the basic shots he was almost automatic on are harder.
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His FG% and TS% are higher than his career averages and up from last year. So comments like this are interesting.
 
hoopsjock said:
His FG% and TS% are higher than his career averages and up from last year. So comments like this are interesting.
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Those two stats represent the entire measure of his season? You can look a FG% and TS% and that's it. Their isn't a deficient part of his game in ANY other way. I don't follow stats because so many in here do. But your ABSOLUTELY SURE I don't need to look anywhere else or use any other statistical analysis. Because if you say so, since I have no desire to spend the next thirty minutes analyzing his game.
 
ripcityboy said:
Those two stats represent the entire measure of his season? You can look a FG% and TS% and that's it. Their isn't a deficient part of his game in ANY other way. I don't follow stats because so many in here do. But your ABSOLUTELY SURE I don't need to look anywhere else or use any other statistical analysis. Because if you say so, since I have no desire to spend the next thirty minutes analyzing his game.
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You said "the basic shots he was almost automatic on are harder", yet he's shooting a better % from the field. You don't find that interesting?
 
hoopsjock said:
You said "the basic shots he was almost automatic on are harder", yet he's shooting a better % from the field. You don't find that interesting?
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It could be threes, tear drops, fade away jumpers.... I am just wondering if FG% is the total measure of his game. If you say it is fine.
 
I'd appreciate him more today if he made that fairly easy shot at the end of the game on Friday night.
 
Gronk Brady said:
The whole team sucks because they are not getting consistent touches in the offense then they are blamed when they miss the few opportunities they get... this has been my whole point on why I’m so against the McLillard duo... not only the defensive liability of an all under 6’3” backcourt which is obvious, but also the stagnation that is unavoidable in the offense when you have 2 players taking half the shots... nothing will change until we trade CJ
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Trade Cj for who? Your not going to get equal value for him
 
Rozay said:
Trade Cj for who? Your not going to get equal value for him
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At this point, I would take a lateral move just to make things interesting... for a team not going anywhere, it is tiring watching the same thing over and over again for almost 3 years now... it’s not going to work... try something different and new for the fans to watch
 
ripcityboy said:
It could be threes, tear drops, fade away jumpers.... I am just wondering if FG% is the total measure of his game. If you say it is fine.
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I never said it was a total measure of his game. I thought you were implying that CJ was struggling with his shot and getting worse looks. FG% incorporates both 2's and 3's.
 
hoopsjock said:
I never said it was a total measure of his game. I thought you were implying that CJ was struggling with his shot and getting worse looks. FG% incorporates both 2's and 3's.
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Well that's what I want to know then. If FG% is the major indicator of his shooting, then I guess he is doing fine. I thought he looked like he was having difficulty with some of his go to moves this season. But I guess the data suggests otherwise.
 
ripcityboy said:
Well that's what I want to know then. If FG% is the major indicator of his shooting, then I guess he is doing fine. I thought he looked like he was having difficulty with some of his go to moves this season. But I guess the data suggests otherwise.
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Well he struggled for a good portion of last year too. 2 years ago seems to be an outlier at this point.
 
There is no such thing as a lateral move in trading CJ is there? He would be traded for a SF or PF or a combination of players. Either way, we would be forced to play a different style because he was gone. Therefore it couldn't be lateral? Wouldn't that be a move in the right direction?
 
Gronk Brady said:
At this point, I would take a lateral move just to make things interesting... for a team not going anywhere, it is tiring watching the same thing over and over again for almost 3 years now... it’s not going to work... try something different and new for the fans to watch
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Yea I guess your right. But I would just trade him for draft picks at this point.

The post LMA era has been pretty much a failure anyways. I would mutually work with Dame as well to see where he would like to play as well and just build everything from the ground up
 
I DONT WANNA HEAR A DAMN WORD OF ALL YOU CJ HATERS. TRIPLE DOUBLE!!! CJ A BEAST
 
Bruno_Sabino said:
I DONT WANNA HEAR A DAMN WORD OF ALL YOU CJ HATERS. TRIPLE DOUBLE!!! CJ A BEAST
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I mean he played well... Lets not forget it was against ATL at home, when Dame was out so he had the ball in his hands a lot.

I dont consider myself a CJ hater, but I feel the same about him now, as I did 3 hours ago.
 
Do want to point out that over his past 10 games, CJ is shooting nearly 48% from the field, 44.6% from 3, and has better than a 2:1 asst/tov ratio. Perhaps he's out of the funk that seemed to plague him the first half of the season?
 
I don't know how to explain it. But CJ looked more "facilitating" today. Like he was working harder but with purpose. He stretched his abilities to their limits. With Dame that kind of production is normal but I don't think it's any wonder CJ got a triple double. Which Dame hasn't. If C.J. really does need his own team to become the player he's supposed to... I don't see why we can't facilitate that. Teams know we won't accept anything less than what his trade value is worth. I just don't understand why everything HAS to be Dame/CJ first. We need to win a championship and that the ability to make hard changes.
 
ripcityboy said:
I don't know how to explain it. But CJ looked more "facilitating" today. Like he was working harder but with purpose. He stretched his abilities to their limits. With Dame that kind of production is normal but I don't think it's any wonder CJ got a triple double. Which Dame hasn't. If C.J. really does need his own team to become the player he's supposed to... I don't see why we can't facilitate that. Teams know we won't accept anything less than what his trade value is worth. I just don't understand why everything HAS to be Dame/CJ first. We need to win a championship and that the ability to make hard changes.
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The sum of the parts does not equal up the the whole when they play together. Good....but not a s good as each of them individually added together. It's just their styles....they are both better when they are in control of the ball. This hasn't changed since the beginning. A game like last night only solidifies that opinion.
 
TBpup said:
The sum of the parts does not equal up the the whole when they play together. Good....but not a s good as each of them individually added together. It's just their styles....they are both better when they are in control of the ball. This hasn't changed since the beginning. A game like last night only solidifies that opinion.
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We should trade Lillard as it's obvious McCollum is capable of getting triple doubles where as Lillard has yet to get one with many more opportunities. Maximize his trade value now before it's too late.
 
TBpup said:
The sum of the parts does not equal up the the whole when they play together. Good....but not a s good as each of them individually added together. It's just their styles....they are both better when they are in control of the ball. This hasn't changed since the beginning. A game like last night only solidifies that opinion.
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While I think there's a chance this could be the case, I still think we'd be best served to see what a good coach could do with these two guys before we go making major changes. Personally, I think we need MORE ball-handlers. The fact that CJ and Dame are both "better" with the ball in their hands should NOT be a problem. As we saw in the POs last year, having two ball-handlers is not nearly enough.
I am somewhat concerned about their size/defense - but even that wasn't much of an issue last season. Get a better PF or SF and those defensive issues become even smaller. And hopefully that PF/SF can dribble the ball better than our currents.
To reiterate - CJ is not the problem. Stotts and Aminu are the main guys holding us back.
 
blue9 said:
While I think there's a chance this could be the case, I still think we'd be best served to see what a good coach could do with these two guys before we go making major changes. Personally, I think we need MORE ball-handlers. The fact that CJ and Dame are both "better" with the ball in their hands should NOT be a problem. As we saw in the POs last year, having two ball-handlers is not nearly enough.
I am somewhat concerned about their size/defense - but even that wasn't much of an issue last season. Get a better PF or SF and those defensive issues become even smaller. And hopefully that PF/SF can dribble the ball better than our currents.
To reiterate - CJ is not the problem. Stotts and Aminu are the main guys holding us back.
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Aminu is a solid role player. Where we need to improve is at the small forward position with someone that can dribble, shoot and help facilitate. Layman would be perfect with the second unit as a scorer off the bench. Get a guy like Jaylon Brown and we would be improved immensely. I don't see Prince as being the answer for that.
 
blue9 said:
While I think there's a chance this could be the case, I still think we'd be best served to see what a good coach could do with these two guys before we go making major changes. Personally, I think we need MORE ball-handlers. The fact that CJ and Dame are both "better" with the ball in their hands should NOT be a problem. As we saw in the POs last year, having two ball-handlers is not nearly enough.
I am somewhat concerned about their size/defense - but even that wasn't much of an issue last season. Get a better PF or SF and those defensive issues become even smaller. And hopefully that PF/SF can dribble the ball better than our currents.
To reiterate - CJ is not the problem. Stotts and Aminu are the main guys holding us back.
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Thank you. Well said. I was feeling a bit lonely with that belief.
 
CupWizier said:
We should trade Lillard as it's obvious McCollum is capable of getting triple doubles where as Lillard has yet to get one with many more opportunities. Maximize his trade value now before it's too late.
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Agreed. BUT it must be sweet - and it must be for multiple #1 picks and more -

Knicks:

Kantor (expiring)
Knox (young small forward to compliment CJ and Collins)
Hardeway Jr.
(2) number 1 picks

Dame with Porzingas May attract a big free-agent. AND!!! we keep Dame far away from the Lakers.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Agreed. BUT it must be sweet - and it must be for multiple #1 picks and more -

Knicks:

Kantor (expiring)
Knox (young small forward to compliment CJ and Collins)
Hardeway Jr.
(2) number 1 picks

Dame with Porzingas May attract a big free-agent. AND!!! we keep Dame far away from the Lakers.
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wow we would suck, and need to cut half our team to make that many roster spots...
 
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