CJ McCollum favorite for ROY according to other rooks

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I think by December we will see CJ start and Wes come off the bench (where he belongs.) That equals PT.
Doubtful. You think he's going to supplant one of the best defenders on the team, and default leader? As an undersized SG? And a rookie? On a team that struggles to defend?
 
We've yet to see what CJ can do, but if the rest of the league is that high on him, I wouldn't mind considering him in trade offers if it could solidify the frontcourt for example. I think he'll be a fairly good player for us, but I'm not quite convinced he'll be much more than a journeyman, spark plug off the bench type guy.
 
We've yet to see what CJ can do, but if the rest of the league is that high on him, I wouldn't mind considering him in trade offers if it could solidify the frontcourt for example. I think he'll be a fairly good player for us, but I'm not quite convinced he'll be much more than a journeyman, spark plug off the bench type guy.

This is a really good point. I'd still like to know if Nic/CJ/MyLe would be good enough to land Horford.
 
I don't think he has a chance unless things go very wrong for the Blazers
 
I sure hope CJ is good enough to start eventually.

IS Jason Terry good enough to start, yes. But he's more effective off the bench with a second unit or mixed in with starters down the stretch. That's how I envision CJ.
 
This is a really good point. I'd still like to know if Nic/CJ/MyLe would be good enough to land Horford.

And then flip Lopez for backcourt depth to fill in for Nic/CJ. We'd be giving up depth and youth, but that would be a damn good starting lineup.
 
CJ will win not only ROY but sixth man as well.

Nice prediction! That's the kind of statement nobody will remember if you are wrong, but you look like an utter genius if you are right.

It's certainly possible. An injury happens and the space opens up, and if he goes all Roy/Lillard on the league....
 
Nice prediction! That's the kind of statement nobody will remember if you are wrong, but you look like an utter genius if you are right.

It's certainly possible. An injury happens and the space opens up, and if he goes all Roy/Lillard on the league....


I hope you're joking. It's an asinine prediction that won't happen.

Simmer down everyone, whoever wins ROY would be 5th best in a real class. It's just that simple.

Carry on, this discussion does not need to go on further.
 
I hope you're joking. It's an asinine prediction that won't happen.

Simmer down everyone, whoever wins ROY would be 5th best in a real class. It's just that simple.

Carry on, this discussion does not need to go on further.

I think you made my point for me. In a poor draft class, it's not a bad idea to pick McCollum as a surprise winner of ROY/6th man. ROY is pretty attainable in this kind of class. As for 6th man, well, imagine Roy or Lillard were in the same position as McCollum. Would those guys win 6th man of the year (assuming they didn't supplant the starters)? Definitely.

I don't think McCollum is as good as those two. He hasn't had as impressive of a summer league. But maybe. That's why we watch the games.
 
Few things:

1. Wes Mathewss isn't a starter on a good team.
2. CJ is our starting SG, sooner or later.
3. Trey Burke is my favorite for ROY.
4. Giannis Adektobu will be the best player from this draft.
5. CJ should be in the top 5.
6. Mathewss will not be traded until he's an expiring contract.
7. With Wes, Mo still on the team we're too deep at SG for CJ to get major minutes.
8. We aren't deep enough with inside players.
9. Let the cake bake.
 
Few things:

1. Wes Mathewss isn't a starter on a good team.
2. CJ is our starting SG, sooner or later.
3. Trey Burke is my favorite for ROY.
4. Giannis Adektobu will be the best player from this draft.
5. CJ should be in the top 5.
6. Mathewss will not be traded until he's an expiring contract.
7. With Wes, Mo still on the team we're too deep at SG for CJ to get major minutes.
8. We aren't deep enough with inside players.
9. Let the cake bake.

You make some good comments here. But I will be shocked if Trey Burke is even in the discussion. He is about as much of a PG as CJ. But I am pretty sure that is where they will be playing him full time. He has a long ways to go IMO.
 
I hope you're joking. It's an asinine prediction that won't happen.

Simmer down everyone, whoever wins ROY would be 5th best in a real class. It's just that simple.

Carry on, this discussion does not need to go on further.
What is your point exactly? That no one should be ROY because this year's ROY won't be as good as last year's ROY, or next year's ROY? WTF?

I don't know what's more irksome: Your stupid dismissal of ROY hypotheticals, or your arrogance in telling us all what we may and may not discuss.
 
I don't know what's more irksome: Your stupid dismissal of ROY hypotheticals, or your arrogance in telling us all what we may and may not discuss.

:werd:
 
When both myself and a positive Patty poster feel the same way about someone, they are a shitty poster. Congrats to you newb
 
Too early to talk about CJ making the hall of fame?
 
I'm in the group that thinks CJ just won't get enough minutes to be a real threat to win RoY. I think he will avg almost 20 a game but that won't be enough to displace a full time starter getting 30+ minutes with a green light.
I never have understood those that think Mathews is best suited for a six man role, to me it seems like he is best with starters. Savy defender, hustle and scrap guy who won't be outworked and is a great 3 shooter. Then you look at the fact he can't create his own shot and has suspect handles and that to me that shows a perfectly fine starter but not someone you want as your sixth man or instant offense off the bench.

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I never have understood those that think Mathews is best suited for a six man role, to me it seems like he is best with starters. Savy defender, hustle and scrap guy who won't be outworked and is a great 3 shooter. Then you look at the fact he can't create his own shot and has suspect handles and that to me that shows a perfectly fine starter but not someone you want as your sixth man or instant offense off the bench.
I'm with ya. I think it shows an extreme lack of thought to suggest otherwise. Until the SG talent pool dramatically increases, Wes is a bona fide starter.
 
I agree Wes is the starter on this Blazers team. If anything, I think C.J. is more of the 6th man type than Wes. I think Wes compliments our other starters and provides good defense, while C.J. can come in off the bench and do work handling the ball and providing instant offense without stepping on anyone's toes.
 
Wes started 48 games on a 53 win team. He beat out a guy I think was a pretty good starter, too.
 
In one of the worst draft classes ever, it's really not that impressive. Whoever wins it shouldn't be that thrilled.

The draft where Roy won Rookie of the Year it was considered really a poor draft. Not trying to dismiss what your saying but even in terrible drafts there is almost always guys who turn out to be studs. The fact that current NBA players (like Lillard and LA) wanted us to draft him and players who were drafted in his same class think he's special is a great sign. Hopefully he turns out to be a steal.
 
I agree Wes is the starter on this Blazers team. If anything, I think C.J. is more of the 6th man type than Wes. I think Wes compliments our other starters and provides good defense, while C.J. can come in off the bench and do work without stepping on anyone's toes.
Precisely.
 
I hate the idea of giving up on Meyers Leonard so soon. He's only 21 and was always supposed to be a project. I'm hoping to see him have a better growth curve as he practices against a real center in Robin Lopez. Robin may have some interesting insights into Leonard's game, since he plays like a very, very poor man's version of his brother Brook.
 

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