Rumor CJ McCollum for Jahlil Okafor

[PtldPlatypus]

Are you saying it's wrong to think Connaughton is worth Durant + Westbrook?

Perhaps. One or the other, but not both.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Olshey isn't going to trade CJ. But if he did, we could do a LOT worse than Okafor.

 

[BBert]

Olshey isn't going to trade CJ. But if he did, we could do a LOT worse than Okafor.

Woohoo! A Wookee "at least he's not scum" endorsement!

 

[handiman]

What it comes down to for me is who is harder to find? Can we find another CJ if we trade for Okafor, or is it easier to find another Okafor if we keep CJ. They both are pretty skilled offensively for their position.

We already have another CJ.

 

[Strenuus]

Olshey isn't going to trade CJ. But if he did, we could do a LOT worse than Okafor.

Has Lebron James ever been in a fist fight? You seem to hate him, too. lol!

 

[Chris Craig]

No I wouldn't do that we can get better back for CJ than Okafor...sell high not low

 

[Rastapopoulos]

This isn't so much of a rumor as it is something that has been proposed back East

Of course it has, because if favors Philly.

Okafor has been exposed as a solid low post scorer who hurts his team more than he helps it. Ideally, if we trade CJ, it will be a for a player who makes us better rather than worse.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Olshey isn't going to trade CJ. But if he did, we could do a LOT worse than Okafor.

We'd have to be trying pretty hard, though.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

No one is saying he is the second coming of Bill Russell.

I dunno - their defense is probably pretty comparable.

Of course, Russell is 81...

 

[riverman]

The perfect guy to bring to Portland is Anthony Davis...that's a championship piece. Boogie would be right there as far as impact. Okafor, I couldn't put in the same conversation. Davis can't be happy in New Orleans and Olshey managed to pry CP3 from them once before...could happen..if it's Anthony Davis...bye CJ

 

[Strenuus]

The perfect guy to bring to Portland is Anthony Davis...that's a championship piece. Boogie would be right there as far as impact. Okafor, I couldn't put in the same conversation. Davis can't be happy in New Orleans and Olshey managed to pry CP3 from them once before...could happen..if it's Anthony Davis...bye CJ

Bringing an injury prone person to Portland is just silly.

 

[RR7]

• Do you like Okafor more at C or PF and which would be his best opposite C/PF on the current roster?

This is my biggest issue with him and players like him. I'm unsure who an ideal pairing is. I'd think he's much to slow to pay against most PFs away from the basket, so will be a liability against guys like green or griffin, etc. You want to pair him with a good defender, but as we see in philly, someone like noel, you'd also need that player to be able to play high post. Like Marc. I'd worry about a clogged lane as well, hurting chances for penetrating guards. I'm not 100%opposed or anything. Just unsure how much is like the construction of the team after

 

[Pinwheel1]

We already have another CJ.

You still have to have two players (Preferably 3) who can handle the ball and create his own shot. Dame can't do it by himself, and even though I like Crabbe (and Wes before him) neither are creators on the same level as CJ. So IMO if you trade CJ for a "big", then you still have to find a second dynamic player to take the pressure off of Lillard.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Let's see how Okafor fares in Real +/-. First, let's go with defense, his acknowledged weakness:
In DRPM, out of 77 centers, Okafor ranks 75th.

Yikes, that's bad. But we knew defense was not his strong point. Surely he makes up for it with offense?

Well, no. He actually ranks 76th in ORPM.

Er, okay, how about Wins? And let's stop comparing him to centers - let's compare him to all players.

Bad news: he ranks 429th out of 434.

Never mind, though - he's still above Derek Rose.

 

[Natebishop3]

Let's see how Okafor fares in Real +/-. First, let's go with defense, his acknowledged weakness:
In DRPM, out of 77 centers, Okafor ranks 75th.

Yikes, that's bad. But we knew defense was not his strong point. Surely he makes up for it with offense?

Well, no. He actually ranks 76th in ORPM.

If you scroll it back to 2013, Cousins is ranked 23rd. Now he's #1. I still think it's a good comparison.

 

[riverman]

Bringing an injury prone person to Portland is just silly.

Being the only guy on your team to do everything is silly...AD would not have that load in Portland..not wanting to see a Lillard/Unibrow pairing is puzzling to me..

 

[Strenuus]

Being the only guy on your team to do everything is silly...AD would not have that load in Portland..not wanting to see a Lillard/Unibrow pairing is puzzling to me..

Greg Oden wasn't going to have to do everything when he was here with Roy either...

#Imgraspingatstrawshere

 

[Strenuus]

Being the only guy on your team to do everything is silly...AD would not have that load in Portland..not wanting to see a Lillard/Unibrow pairing is puzzling to me..

Also, we wouldn't see lillard/AD together much because Davis would get hurt too much.

We didn't see a lot of Roy/Oden...

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If you scroll it back to 2013, Cousins is ranked 23rd. Now he's #1. I still think it's a good comparison.

So you are saying there is a chance that Okafor could get up to 53? Woohoo! (Just playing by the way).

 

[Natebishop3]

So you are saying there is a chance that Okafor could get up to 53? Woohoo! (Just playing by the way).

I mean... I wish I could scroll back further but it will only go back as far as 2013.
I'd be interested in seeing where Cousins was during his first season.

 

[riverman]

Greg Oden wasn't going to have to do everything when he was here with Roy either...

#Imgraspingatstrawshere

you're honestly comparing Anthony Davis to Greg Oden? ok...not an Anthony Davis fan, gotcha

 

[Natebishop3]

you're honestly comparing Anthony Davis to Greg Oden? ok...not an Anthony Davis fan, gotcha

Davis is an incredible player..... but his injuries do scare me. The guy can't stay healthy.

 

[Strenuus]

you're honestly comparing Anthony Davis to Greg Oden? ok...not an Anthony Davis fan, gotcha

lol. Riverman, you realize HOW I'm comparing them, yes? Injury Prone vs. Injury prone... not their skill levels.

They are brittle.

 

[Strenuus]

Davis is an incredible player..... but his injuries do scare me. The guy can't stay healthy.

This. I didn't know I had to write it so clearly.

 

[riverman]

lol. Riverman, you realize HOW I'm comparing them, yes? Injury Prone vs. Injury prone... not their skill levels.

They are brittle.

Some might say the same about CJ ...he's had a few setbacks..probably missed more games than Davis without playing starter minutes

 

[Natebishop3]

Some might say the same about CJ ...he's had a few setbacks..probably missed more games than Davis without playing starter minutes

Well, that might be true, but:

1) CJ wasn't the #1 overall pick.

2) Acquiring Davis, with or without his injury concerns, would be EXPENSIVE.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Another way to look at it though is that Davis is last guy for them to think of trading. So if they did trade him he would ONLY be available because of the injury scare.

 

[riverman]

Well, that might be true, but:

1) CJ wasn't the #1 overall pick.

2) Acquiring Davis, with or without his injury concerns, would be EXPENSIVE.

and now we have more to spend than any team in the league...timing is everything

 

[Natebishop3]

and now we have more to spend than any team in the league...timing is everything

Not talking about dollars. Talking about assets.

 

[riverman]

I just think of all the big guys who would impact the roster, Davis is the best fit and lacks character baggage..talent wise, I think Boogie is the best