Trade CJ McCollum to New Orleans

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Paul Allen just rolled over in his grave
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The Paul Allen trust owns the Blazers. It is a very different legal entity than an ownership group or a corporation. A trust can have certain conditions and/or restrictions placed on what happens to the assets in the trust.

You have to remember that PA's first big purchase, first love, as a billionaire was the Blazers. It's not unrealistic that he has placed conditions on what can and can't happen to the Blazers.

I'm personally involved in two family trusts and without going into personal details there are detailed conditions assigned to certain assets and when they can be sold and how those funds can be distributed.

While Jody Allen is head of the PA's trust it doesn't mean she is free to do what she wants with the assets in the trust. It's not like PA wasn't somewhat eccentric, he could have placed conditions that the Seahawks or the Blazers can't be sold until they win a championship. He could have placed a condition that the Blazers can't be sold until his buddy Bert Kolde is dead.

I'm just pointing out that there are a ton of assumptions being made that Jody wants to sell or move the team. She very well might want to but that doesn't mean she can.
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This is a very good, well explained point. Jody may have restrictions we don't know about.

But I'd still say she is the owner of the team, so your prior post was misleading. It's never said in regards to a pro team "xxx Trust" is the owner. We say the most powerful individual. People like Vivek or the Warriors owners or Bucks or 6ers owners all have a ton of minority owners with various powers and restrictions, so none of them are completely free to do 100% what they want either. But they have more power than anyone else, so we rightly so call them the owner. Same as Jody.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Its funny when you list the depth chart this way. Its like we cut all of Powell, Roco, CJ, and Nance with nothing in return and you still think theres some sort of hope at contending? You must have thought we were title favorites before the season.

We are rebuilding. The only question is if Dame is months away from traded, or going to ride with the long rebuild like Kobe.
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I don't think the rebuild will be *that* long, but finding out Dame's appetite for any kind of rebuild and dealing him if he's not interested in it should be a priority. I say that as someone that adores Damian Lillard. The franchise should be willing to accommodate him after all he's given to the Blazers.
 
Could someone please tell me what we might do with all this beloved "cap space"?

Are we going to sign any free agents? No. Do we re-sign anyone besides Nas and Ant? No. So we have Dame, Ant, Nas, a bunch of clowns, a couple of late first rounders, and that's it.

Whoop-de-freaking-do.

Am I missing something?
 
J.D. said:
I actually like the trade a lot, as I did the previous trade.

The point for both of these moves is to open up cap space. They'll have $60 million-ish to work with this summer along with a $21 million trade exception. Alexander-Walker and Keon Johnson are both good, young talents. Josh Hart can easily slide in as the team's sixth man and bench leader if they want to give Simons a run at SG. If they want to reload, they now have the cap space to go after a Bradley Beal in FA if they want to take a big swing. And there's no point in being a mediocre team in the NBA. This team isn't competing for a championship right now as constructed, so it makes more sense to tear it down, try to get a high lottery slot, and build back from there.

I could be wrong, they could do NOTHING in FA, wind up getting leaped in the lottery, and blowing it on the draft pick. In which case, I would be much more harsh on these moves.
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Yes but you don't just give other teams a bunch of wins without getting more than we did back in return. Clearing up cap space isn't a problem. The problem is we paid a first for Nance just a few months ago and we only got back one first in this deal. Anyway, we'll need good luck in free agency because we've never landed a big name free agent. All of that cap space could be used in lopsided trades but most likely we'll now operate somewhere close to the salary floor for a while. Let the young guys develop. But we need some fucking size.
 
blazedanugz said:
Well the Pelicans beat reporter tweeted the trade is not done and a third team is involved so
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That wouldn't surprise me. There was a lot of indication in that from some discussions that were had. We'll see what that involves if so.
 
blazerkor said:
Yes but you don't just give other teams a bunch of wins without getting more than we did back in return. Clearing up cap space isn't a problem. The problem is we paid a first for Nance just a few months ago and we only got back one first in this deal. Anyway, we'll need good luck in free agency because we've never landed a big name free agent. All of that cap space could be used in lopsided trades but most likely we'll now operate somewhere close to the salary floor for a while. Let the young guys develop. But we need some fucking size.
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Paying too much in previous trades don't necessarily mean that *these* trades were bad. It means the previous ones were. We clearly overpaid for both Nance and RoCo, and honestly probably Powell too. I don't blame the current GM for trying to clear the deck on trades that haven't really worked out.

You're not wrong about striking out in FA though, and if we do strike out in FA, then that definitely deserves scrutiny. The success of these trades depends largely on what, if anything, the Blazers do in FA. If they miss on their targets, or if they don't identify the right players to try to bring in, then these trades are largely detrimental and should be seen as such.
 
I don’t know how to add tweets here lol

“My understanding is this deal is not yet done. There is a possibility a third team could get looped in prior to Thursday's trade deadline. Either way, McCollum is New Orleans-bound”

Christian Clark
 

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blazerkor said:
Yes but you don't just give other teams a bunch of wins without getting more than we did back in return. Clearing up cap space isn't a problem. The problem is we paid a first for Nance just a few months ago and we only got back one first in this deal. Anyway, we'll need good luck in free agency because we've never landed a big name free agent. All of that cap space could be used in lopsided trades but most likely we'll now operate somewhere close to the salary floor for a while. Let the young guys develop. But we need some fucking size.
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This x 10e6.
Portland traded, essentially 4 starters and got a single FRP in return. If you put that into the context of 2 FRP for Roco and the Trent debacle etc., it boggles the mind. Best not to go there. But we are talking about sheep fur, people, as in fleeced.
 
oldmangrouch said:
While what you say is true, I'm not sure how it applies to the current situation....unless the terms of the trust require Jody to destroy the value of the franchise and ensure it never has another winning season.
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My statement was in response to the many posts that Jody Allen is making moves in order to sell or move the team.

It just doesn't make sense, so she's destroying the value of the team so she can sell it for less money? That's what you're implying.
 
Mr. Robot said:
@SlyPokerDog why cant i see this thread on the front page

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I FUCKING LOVE THIS! YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP!
 
No matter how it shapes up for us, New Orleans has a really good starting 5 if Zion could stay on the floor.

PG - Graham
SG - McCollum
SF - Ingram
PF - Williamson
C - Valanciunas
 
blazedanugz said:
I don’t know how to add tweets here lol

“My understanding is this deal is not yet done. There is a possibility a third team could get looped in prior to Thursday's trade deadline. Either way, McCollum is New Orleans-bound”

Christian Clark
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You imbed the tweet from Twitter by clicking the dots on the right upper corner of the tweet, then click the icon that looks like film here on S2 in the post options above your post and copy the tweet link, hit enter and you have it added to your post.
 
J.D. said:
No matter how it shapes up for us, New Orleans has a really good starting 5 if Zion could stay on the floor.

PG - Graham
SG - McCollum
SF - Ingram
PF - Williamson
C - Valanciunas
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Roy-Aldridge-Batum-Oden looked great too on paper.
 
Rest Dame the whole season, pray for Pels to lose and if everything falls in place. We could get 2 lottery picks.
 
Everyone is acting like these trades are so terrible…
They HAD to be done. You think Cronin really just took worse deals? i would bet the offers in the table were not what we all think they were. Neil wouldn’t tear it down because he knew this would be the return and he would get fired. Cronin is doing what is necessary to move forward
 
Chris Craig said:
You imbed the tweet from Twitter by clicking the dots on the right upper corner of the tweet, then click the icon that looks like film here on S2 in the post options above your post and copy the tweet link, hit enter and you have it added to your post.
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You can just copy and paste the url on here and the tweet pops up, you don't even have to embed it.
 
DDolla said:
Rest Dame the whole season, pray for Pels to lose and if everything falls in place. We could get 2 lottery picks.
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Pels will make the play in and maybe the playoffs
 
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