Trade CJ McCollum to New Orleans

[maxiep]

I think Bagley is dealt to Portland today

For Dame and a TPE?

 

[AngryFan]

Getting all the guards makes sense. We still have games vs Houston/Detroit/OKC/Orlando this year. They are trying to break the roster enough that Simons can't win regardless how much he scores.

 

[illmatic99]

Hey, I thought we were going with Bledsoe!!

i think bled is gone regardless, at the latest this summer. putting him as my avi wouldn't have forced a trade to happen by Thursday.

gotta respect the process.

But seriously tho...:

-Rolo
-Plumlee
-Stauskas
-Curry
-Stotts
-CJ

Every single one gone less than a year after they showed up as my avi.

 

[BonesJones]

Are those who thought he ws basically an all-star and his contract wasn't that bad, surprised how little we got in return?

Your first thought on this trade would be about what others think in contrast to what you think. Lmao.

 

[Predator]

They'll be in Portland through the end of their lease. After that, it's 50/50. It depends on who buys them. If a Clay Bennett buys them, they're gone.

And if my aunt had a dick she’d be my uncle

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Relocations take time, especially if an arena isn't built in the target city. I am not saying it's a certainty the Blazers are leaving, I'm saying it's on the table. You don't think so? A new owner who likely won't be from here? It's not like Ballmer, who bought the Clips and relocated to LA. No billionaire is relocating to Portland, OR.

The NBA has floated out a $2.5 billion franchise fee. The owners would rather make that off of Vegas and Seattle than allow the Blazers to move for nothing.

 

[wizenheimer]

Even if a 3rd team is involved there won't be major players shuffled around. More like sending Sato to a team where he may play, or Snell. Or offloading Zeller somewhere else. Minimal money moves.

could be a lot bigger if Bledsoe was involved

 

[illmatic99]

 

[Predator]

There’s 0% chance the Blazers leave Portland

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Okay, I'm out... off to the Adidas Employee Store, lol.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

Did I miss anything? Did we get Meyers back?

 

[maxiep]

And if my aunt had a dick she’d be my uncle

We have no idea who is in the market for an NBA franchise. It's not a stretch to say the owner won't be local.

Let me put it this way. If I had the money to buy the Tampa Rays, I wouldn't give a s*** about the Tampa area, I would move that team to Portland. What makes you think a purchaser in Vegas, Vancouver, Baltimore, Kansas City, Nashville, Tampa or any other city without a franchise would feel differently?

 

[maxiep]

Okay, I'm out... off to the Adidas Employee Store, lol.

The person who helps you may be on the Blazer roster tonight!

 

[Wizard Mentor]

more like 6'5 6'6 --- Lol

It looks like we're going to have to wait until Training Camp to find out the net result of these moves.

But, for now, we're getting:
Satoranky, SG (6'7")
Hart, SF (6'5")
SAW, SG (6'6")
Louzada, SG (6'5"), negative PER

Taking out Zeller (who shouldn't be on the team next year), and Greg Brown (who won't play next year)....
Other than Nurk, the only player taller than 6'7" is Watford.

So, congrats to Watford, you're getting a 3-year contract next year...

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Did we get 2 second round picks?

OK, it appears we did. I think my initial disappointment with this trade is because of the false teaser earlier that we were getting 2 first and Jaxson Hayes and Murphy. Also disappointed when Nance went out.
But thinking it over I feel a lot better. I'm Ok with Nance for 2 second round picks. He's out with an injury to the knees that seems to be lingering; that's really concerning.
For CJ, a FRP that could be a lottery pick, a SG who is 4 years younger and 2" taller, who has a rebounding % double that of CJ's, has a higher BPM because of his outstanding DBPM, OTRG of 117 compared to CJ's 108 and DTRG of 112 to CJ's 116, at a much lower salary. Already we win big, really big! Then we get a two way tall guard thrown in; maybe he won't ever be anything but maybe he has still been recovering from injuries in his first two years?

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

no they didn’t. They almost made the finals then their roster was derailed by injuries and covid

Now THAT is a quality handle.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

I guess it’s best he got traded but I kind of felt CJ was worth more than that.
Just my take?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think Bagley is dealt to Portland today

That would be interesting

 

[BonesJones]

Like, Woj is reporting this 21M number so it's coming from somewhere. But something tells me it's just impossible. I ran the numbers. Maybe Cronin made a fucking cap mistake and fed it to Woj.

Nance+Snell match Hart+NAW. Didi into Trent TPE. CJ - Sato = $20.8M TPE.

 

[J.D.]

We have no idea who is in the market for an NBA franchise. It's not a stretch to say the owner won't be local.

Let me put it this way. If I had the money to buy the Tampa Rays, I wouldn't give a s*** about the Tampa area, I would move that team to Portland. What makes you think a purchaser in Vegas, Vancouver, Baltimore, Kansas City, Nashville, Tampa or any other city without a franchise would feel differently?

I assure you, there's not a billionaire owner in Baltimore looking for a team right now. I could probably make that same guess for KC, Nashville, and Tampa.

 

[BonesJones]

New Orleans is not under the cap. They have to abide by the 125% rule. Sato makes 10M. CJ 30M. You can't toss the 20M TPE they have into the deal, it can't be combined with other players (ie. SATO)

Everything they trade matches CJ. NOP uses portion of their $17M TPE to absorb Nance. Snell is minimum so doesn't need to be accounted for. We get $20M due to deficit between CJ and Satoransky.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I assure you, there's not a billionaire owner in Baltimore looking for a team right now. I could probably make that same guess for KC, Nashville, and Tampa.

Probably an even safer bet there isn't a billionaire in Portland than any of the cities you list.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I guess it’s best he got traded but I kind of felt CJ was worth more than that.
Just my take?

See my post above; we got plenty for him.

 

[J.D.]

Probably an even safer bet there isn't a billionaire in Portland than any of the cities you list.

I've lived in both Baltimore and Portland, and I'd wager on there being a higher likelihood of one in Portland than in Baltimore.

Also, Baltimore's arena situation is a mess. As in, there practically is none. The current arena was built in the 60's and isn't even up to G-League standards. They would have to build one from scratch, which the city has tried to do for about 20 years and gotten nowhere.

 

[maxiep]

I assure you, there's not a billionaire owner in Baltimore looking for a team right now. I could probably make that same guess for KC, Nashville, and Tampa.

You would have made the same post about Oklahoma City or Memphis.

I assure you, Baltimore is only 35 miles from DC. Billionaires in Montgomery and Anne Arundel Counties think of Baltimore as a suburb. Wonder how a town as small as Baltimore supports two pro teams? And there's plenty of money in those areas. KC also comes with a new arena.

 

[BonesJones]

I'm pretty sure Cronin is furiously on the line with Detroit trying to figure out what we need to add to the 20M TPE to fetch Grant.

It'd probably just be this:

Blazers get $10.6M TPE. 2022 1st to DET is the NOP 1st in the CJ deal.

 

[THE HCP]

Okay, I'm out... off to the Adidas Employee Store, lol.

Size 12-13

 

[maxiep]

I've lived in both Baltimore and Portland, and I'd wager on there being a higher likelihood of one in Portland than in Baltimore.

Also, Baltimore's arena situation is a mess. As in, there practically is none. The current arena was built in the 60's and isn't even up to G-League standards. They would have to build one from scratch, which the city has tried to do for about 20 years and gotten nowhere.

There's room down where Camden Yards and M&T are located. It's not as much about Baltimore as it is about the surrounding areas. Baltimore, like Detroit, is a donut. Lots of money surrounding a poor urban core. I was just throwing out options.

 

[BonesJones]

It looks like we're going to have to wait until Training Camp to find out the net result of these moves.

But, for now, we're getting:
Satoranky, SG (6'7")
Hart, SF (6'5")
SAW, SG (6'6")
Louzada, SG (6'5"), negative PER

Taking out Zeller (who shouldn't be on the team next year), and Greg Brown (who won't play next year)....
Other than Nurk, the only player taller than 6'7" is Watford.

So, congrats to Watford, you're getting a 3-year contract next year...

I think the plan is to draft Chet, Banchero, or Jabari while trading the NOP 1st for another forward. Lots of good centers we could get with our 2nd round pick. Then free agency. This team will have a frontcourt next year.

 

[J.D.]

You would have made the same post about Oklahoma City or Memphis.

I assure you, Baltimore is only 35 miles from DC. Billionaires in Montgomery and Anne Arundel Counties think of Baltimore as a suburb. Wonder how a town as small as Baltimore supports two pro teams? And there's plenty of money in those areas. KC also comes with a new arena.

I know exactly how close Baltimore is to DC. And I know exactly how unwilling rich people are to go into Baltimore city for just about anything outside of a Ravens game.

Wizards games aren't highly attended. A new team in Baltimore wouldn't be either. The Orioles don't draw well. They didn't really do great during the last stretch of good baseball the Orioles had, either.

KC's "new" arena is now 15 years old. Granted, it's newer than the Moda Center, but it's not new.