CJ taking it to another level

[Strenuus]

He’s a fucking shooting guard dude god damn he’s not going to ever lead the league in dimes sorry

Go tell Lillard to average Chris Paul assist numbers if u like that shit he’s the point guard

Lol. I love how you still havent acknowledged your hypocrisy on calling out people who hate on a player.

 

[BonesJones]

Your all over the place on this but i can see your point.
Problem is there were way to many variables in the way the game played out last night. So i just can't agree with your take.

Its funny how we just got done ripping Westbrook for having similar shooting nights. CJ missed 23 shots and often times, he forced a bad shot when he had a teammate wide open (like the shot he took before getting his own miss and kicking to Hood who was open the whole time).

I'm simply saying he didnt play "great" or at a "whole 'nother level". He had 41 points in 60 minutes (which equates to 24.3pts Per 36), and he did it on 41% shooting. He had great stretches of play, but overall, he was inconsistent all game and didnt play particularly well.

He also hasnt been particularly good this series. He's shooting 40.8% (31 for 76) for the series. He has 77 points on 76 shots. He was great in round 1 and hasnt been the same this series.

I've seen many games where hes been better than he was last night.

 

[BonesJones]

He’s a fucking shooting guard dude god damn he’s not going to ever lead the league in dimes sorry

Go tell Lillard to average Chris Paul assist numbers if u like that shit he’s the point guard

He's a SG who constantly has the ball in his hands, runs a lot of PnR, and brings the ball up and initiates offense at times. Its not a black amd white PG/SG debate. Theyre both ball dominant guards that have the ball a lot.

 

[BonesJones]

This series:
Dame - 81 points on 62 shots (+19)
CJ - 77 points in 76 shots (+1)

 

[magnifier661]

I just dont see the dude having a "great game" when he had 41 points on 39 shots in 60 minutes. And this reaction is closer to nuetral than negative.

If he had 24 points on 10-23 shooting in 36 minutes, people would say he had a solid or decent game. Thats the level of performance he had. He had very good stretces, and some poor stretches. I dont think its reflective of him taking it to "another level".

A great game is when you make the shots when it matters most. When all the pressure is on, yet you can hit the clutch shot after clutch shot.

There are a lot of players and even Stars that can put up high efficiency, but choke when the shot is on the line. Then there are streaky shooters that make the clutch shots when the game is on the line.

In the playoffs, stars are made by the heroics, not consistency imo.

 

[Strenuus]

A great game is when you make the shots when it matters most. When all the pressure is on, yet you can hit the clutch shot after clutch shot.

There are a lot of players and even Stars that can put up high efficiency, but choke when the shot is on the line. Then there are streaky shooters that make the clutch shots when the game is on the line.

In the playoffs, stars are made by the heroics, not consistency imo.

Damn this is a solid post.

 

[tester551]

He’s a fucking shooting guard dude god damn he’s not going to ever lead the league in dimes sorry

Go tell Lillard to average Chris Paul assist numbers if u like that shit he’s the point guard

Who was asking him to lead the league in assists?

Most of us just want him get to average level.

 

[BonesJones]

A great game is when you make the shots when it matters most. When all the pressure is on, yet you can hit the clutch shot after clutch shot.

There are a lot of players and even Stars that can put up high efficiency, but choke when the shot is on the line. Then there are streaky shooters that make the clutch shots when the game is on the line.

In the playoffs, stars are made by the heroics, not consistency imo.

He didn't shoot a great percentage in the OT periods either. Shot a lot, made some.

CJ has had his fair share of disappearing at the end of games. He's never been any better in crunch time than he usually is.

And are we talking about pure value and production or stardom in the eyes of the casual NBA fan? I'm talking about the former.

 

[borim69]

CJ played a good game his 3pt % was good and kept us in the game in regulation. It is just that in O/T when the team is shit on 3pt % like it was Friday night we should have stayed away and went for high percentage shots because chucking up 3's on a off night almost lost us the game. I know Hood came in and won it off of 3's in the 4 O/T but I believe we could have won it sooner taking better 2 pt shots.

 

[joeBlazers]

Is it that hard to ask a player to take better shots, trust his team mates more and act more like a team player rather than a stat hug?
Because we won the game doesn't make it a sustainable model. We all know, where this has led us in the past.
3 years ago, Dame and CJ dropped 40+ at Golden State in the first game. They thought they were the only players on the team and kept shooting ... and took very poor shots despite being double teamed... we got swept. The bench was blamed ...
There is tons of factual evidence this year that the bench is solid. There is no reason for hero ball

 

[Orion Bailey]

I wouldn’t say back. Just wanted to come by for a bit.

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[kjironman1]

Its funny how we just got done ripping Westbrook for having similar shooting nights. CJ missed 23 shots and often times, he forced a bad shot when he had a teammate wide open (like the shot he took before getting his own miss and kicking to Hood who was open the whole time).

I'm simply saying he didnt play "great" or at a "whole 'nother level". He had 41 points in 60 minutes (which equates to 24.3pts Per 36), and he did it on 41% shooting. He had great stretches of play, but overall, he was inconsistent all game and didnt play particularly well.

He also hasnt been particularly good this series. He's shooting 40.8% (31 for 76) for the series. He has 77 points on 76 shots. He was great in round 1 and hasnt been the same this series.

I've seen many games where hes been better than he was last night.

AnnnnnD Here come the STATS!
I just cannot agree with the statistical take on a 4 OT win in game 3 of the playoffs in the second round with as many scenarios that this team is dealing with.
Seriously i wish we all could sit and listen to Lillards take on this right about now?
This is Isaiah Thomas giving his opinion on CJ and what he did in that game. We are talking the Hall of Fame inductee not the one on the bench.
In a game like that you don't read the stat book.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blazzers-win-game-3-4-065036995.html

 

[kjironman1]

A great game is when you make the shots when it matters most. When all the pressure is on, yet you can hit the clutch shot after clutch shot.

There are a lot of players and even Stars that can put up high efficiency, but choke when the shot is on the line. Then there are streaky shooters that make the clutch shots when the game is on the line.

In the playoffs, stars are made by the heroics, not consistency imo.

Cannot agree with this more.

 

[kjironman1]

Robert Horry got 7 rings. Players and coaches wanted him on their team in the playoffs. Not because of his efficiency/STATS. Because he made huge plays in crucial games. Blazer fans everywhere absolutely hate this dude because of it.
Big Shot Rob!
Big Shot Bob!
The Key Man!
Go read a Nuggets board right about now.

 

[RSC60]

Its funny how we just got done ripping Westbrook for having similar shooting nights. CJ missed 23 shots and often times, he forced a bad shot when he had a teammate wide open (like the shot he took before getting his own miss and kicking to Hood who was open the whole time).

I'm simply saying he didnt play "great" or at a "whole 'nother level". He had 41 points in 60 minutes (which equates to 24.3pts Per 36), and he did it on 41% shooting. He had great stretches of play, but overall, he was inconsistent all game and didnt play particularly well.

He also hasnt been particularly good this series. He's shooting 40.8% (31 for 76) for the series. He has 77 points on 76 shots. He was great in round 1 and hasnt been the same this series.

I've seen many games where hes been better than he was last night.

Dude it’s about making the shots at the RIGHT time. Cj hasn’t cost us any games this series it’s been the total opposite. He literally saved our asses in game 2 and game 3 with his TIMELY baskets. The playoffs is for your big guns to take over at the right times and Cj has done that this series very well

 

[RSC60]

Is it that hard to ask a player to take better shots, trust his team mates more and act more like a team player rather than a stat hug?
Because we won the game doesn't make it a sustainable model. We all know, where this has led us in the past.
3 years ago, Dame and CJ dropped 40+ at Golden State in the first game. They thought they were the only players on the team and kept shooting ... and took very poor shots despite being double teamed... we got swept. The bench was blamed ...
There is tons of factual evidence this year that the bench is solid. There is no reason for hero ball

We were going to get swept regardless it’s the freaking golden state warriors. The only time we ever beat golden state in the playoffs even once is when Steph curry sat out

 

[kjironman1]

This series:
Dame - 81 points on 62 shots (+19)
CJ - 77 points in 76 shots (+1)

Kobe Bryant has missed more shots in the regular season than any other player in NBA history. The Los Angeles Lakers star passed Celtics legend Jon Havlicek's record (13,147).

CJ Playoff totals Career.

NBA 38 28 32.9 7.0 16.0 .437 2.1 5.2 .401 4.9 10.8 .454 .502 2.4 3.1 .795 0.6 3.1 3.6 2.3 0.8 0.4 1.8 2.2 18.5 efg% = .502

Kobe Playoff totals Career.

NBA 220 200 8641 2014 4499 .448 292 882 .331 1722 3617 .476 .480 1320 1617 .816 230 889 1119 1040 310 144 647 660 5640 efg% = .480

Now the reason i posted STATS is to show exactly how fallible they are. Don't try making an argument with Statistics alone because they will fail you every time. Anyone can post mindless mind numbing numbers and take that as fact.
The fact is the Blazers won that game because CJ was there and he took the shots that needed to be taken under the biggest and brightest lights this team has had in a long time.
No amount of stats can show what he did out there. Has he elevated his game? To this i say yes.

 

[e_blazer]

We were going to get swept regardless it’s the freaking golden state warriors. The only time we ever beat golden state in the playoffs even once is when Steph curry sat out

The Blazers could get swept by the Warriors, but the reference to what happened the last couple of times that they played the Warriors in the playoffs is tired and lacks logic. The Warriors have shown chinks in their armor all season: internal discord, aging bench, injury to Boogie. On the other side, these Blazers aren’t the same team from 2-3 years ago. The core is much more experienced. Dame and CJ are at their peaks now. The bench is deep and has role guys who can impact a game.

I know I’m not alone here in hoping that the Blazers get the chance to play in the WCF. That would be a huge win in and of itself given the low national expectations for this team. Personally, I think there’s a good shot that the Blazers could take the Warriors to six games and maybe even have an outside shot at stealing the series.