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[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I see what you did there. ,wink.


No. He doesn't. Nor do you.

Calling Wheeler an abject failure as Portland Mayor, based on all the reports I'm getting back from my family who lives there...has NOTHING to to with Trump. Oh, other than the fact that Wheeler wants to dump all the blame on him. Trump doesn't run Portland, OR!

But he IS helping to incite the violence. Did your “sources” inform you that the protests had pretty much petered out months ago?? And as soon as that happened, that Trump sent in his goon squads to pour gas on the coals, purely for political purposes??? Of course not. It doesn’t fit your (or apparently your sources) narrative. But it is on Trump and no one else. Wheeler may be a pussy, but at least he’s standing up to your bullyboy and calling him out on the national stage. The Republicans must own stock in Chapstick for all knob jobbing they’re doing on Trump. Perhaps you should buy shares....

 

[Orion Bailey]

But your personal house, versus the way police performing a civic duty show up to a gathering. One group shows up with signs, met with riot gear. One shows up with guns, met with nothing. On duty, I'm sorry, there's no room for personal feelings of oh they don't like me.

One side showed up with signs and started destroying property including local businesses. Started being violent on any who disagreed with them. This happened first. On the day of....

Lets not revision history here.

 

[julius]

I see what you did there. ,wink.


No. He doesn't. Nor do you.

Calling Wheeler an abject failure as Portland Mayor, based on all the reports I'm getting back from my family who lives there...has NOTHING to to with Trump. Oh, other than the fact that Wheeler wants to dump all the blame on him. Trump doesn't run Portland, OR!

https://katu.com/news/local/portlan...-mayors-resignation-following-deadly-shooting

You're all over the place with this discussion. You seem to be implying (as it fits your narrative) that people who are against Trump have to be in favor of Wheeler.

 

[ABM]

But he IS helping to incite the violence. Did your “sources” inform you that the protests had pretty much petered out months ago?? And as soon as that happened, that Trump sent in his goon squads to pour gas on the coals, purely for political purposes??? Of course not. It doesn’t fit your (or apparently your sources) narrative. But it is on Trump and no one else. Wheeler may be a pussy, but at least he’s standing up to your bullyboy and calling him out on the national stage. The Republicans must own stock in Chapstick for all knob jobbing they’re doing on Trump. Perhaps you should buy shares....

So, what you're really saying is, Wheeler is absolved of any and all responsibility in all of this.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/...-gassed-amid-a-skeptical-crowd-of-protesters/

 

[ABM]

You're all over the place with this discussion. You seem to be implying (as it fits your narrative) that people who are against Trump have to be in favor of Wheeler.

Wrong. See above.

 

[barfo]

Family, yours or anyone else's, is not an unbiased source of information.

barfo

 

[ABM]

So glad Wheeler is all over this...

https://www.kptv.com/news/after-mon...cle_3cf5bdce-dc5a-11ea-98e0-af318ea28d34.html

 

[ABM]

Family, yours or anyone else's, is not an unbiased source of information.

barfo

We all make statements, though, all the time. Generally, it's from information we have at hand. My family (not all on the right) see what Wheeler has been doing on an every day basis....since 2017. They've had enough of the guy. In their "opinion" he's bad at what he does. Really bad.

 

[julius]

Wrong. See above.

Remind who responded to UCD with this?

Spoken like a red state red neck who relies on Fox “News” and Trump tweets for his daily delusion. Rather hard to make any kind of relevant statement from 2600 miles away. But thanks for playing.

---->Well, so happy you agree with all Wheeler is doing out there, then.<----

Then UCD responded with this

The typical smarmy response from you. Where in my post did I say ANYTHING about Wheeler?? Just another patented ABM projection. My point was that maybe you shouldn’t believe everything you read.....especially from outlets that have clear biases and agendas. Or are you too shallow and entrenched in your own personal ideology?

Now here’s where you get to snark and deflect. Ready, set........

Which basically shows how you implied something that wasn't the case (UCD did not make his declarations about Wheeler in this post, or the other one you responded to).

To which you said

My whole family lives in the Portland area and I have to listen to them every. single. day. This, along with all that I read.

Ted Wheeler has been an abject failure as the Mayor of Portland, OR.

Which is 100% what confirmation bias is.
And then you followed up with this gem.

So, what you're really saying is, Wheeler is absolved of any and all responsibility in all of this.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/...-gassed-amid-a-skeptical-crowd-of-protesters/

which included a link that kind of was related to something that happened, but in no way indicates UCD (or anyone here) has said "Wheeler is absolved of any and all responsibility in all of this" (which is ironic since Trump himself has basically said he doesn't hold himself responsible for anything).

It's like trying to follow an argument after it's been run through a language translator half a dozen times.

As I said the other day, I have to commend you for sticking to the script. As much as that script is easily predictable, uninformed and full of holes, you'r still sticking to it.

 

[julius]

We all make statements, though, all the time. Generally, it's from information we have at hand. My family (not all on the right) see what Wheeler has been doing on an every day basis....since 2017. They've had enough of the guy. In their "opinion" he's bad at what he does. Really bad.

con·fir·ma·tion bi·as

noun
noun: confirmation bias

1. the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.
   
   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.[1] It is an important type of cognitive bias that has a significant effect on the proper functioning of society by distorting evidence-based decision-making. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. For example, a person may cherry-pick empirical data that supports one's belief, ignoring the remainder of the data that is not supportive. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs.

 

[ABM]

.....

Ted Wheeler is an abject failure as Mayor of Portland, OR

 

[Orion Bailey]

Ted Wheeler is an abject failure as Mayor of Portland, OR

Fact.

 

[THE HCP]

This tweet is fucking with my sense of reality. Trump's war on irony is never ending!

But @THE HCP said it best earlier, and I'm paraphrasing: all these tweet are going to be in the archives.

And there someday will be a book, collated and balancing the tweets and words with the real world news--like a People's History of the United States. And we will all someday read it, conservatives (after the poison leaves their systems, and they raise a flattened hand to the sun like what-the-fuck-just-happened-where-am-I) and liberals alike, and reflect on the dismally dark days of Trump's presidency.

But first, we must get him situated in the rearview mirror...

I would love to see these trump supporters on here sit down with their kids/grandchildren and simply read a book of his tweets as a bedtime story. You know that’s going to be an SNL skit someday.

 

[THE HCP]

And Donald Trump has been an abject failure as president of the United States. But you’re obviously good with that. See how that works??

#BAM
POST OF THE YEAR NOMINEE

 

[e_blazer]

#BAM
POST OF THE YEAR NOMINEE

Wait, I thought I had that sewn up? You fickle SOB!

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

So, what you're really saying is, Wheeler is absolved of any and all responsibility in all of this.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/07/...-gassed-amid-a-skeptical-crowd-of-protesters/

Nice try. No, what I’m “really saying” that the continuing unrest is on Trump. He has made absolutely NO effort to be a leader and uniter. That ain’t gonna get him elected. If you want to place “responsibility” on anyone, place it where it really belongs; on the police for refusing to police themselves and on the politicians who have refused to hold the police accountable. Trump cut Wheeler off at the knees when he sent in his secret police. By doing that he tacitly condoned police brutality. Wheeler was doing well enough that the protests were pretty much just that, protests. Trump elevated it to a whole different level. I’m sorry if you can’t deal with facts. But that’s YOUR problem, not mine. You just want to argue for the sake of argument. Pro tip, bring facts, not feelings to your arguments......

 

[ABM]

I made a post about Ted Wheeler. But, like happens so many times in here, it all gets twisted to somehow being Trump's fault. OK, yeah, true enough, I posted a link whereas Wheeler wants to blame Trump for EVERYTHING. So I guess all bets are off there.

At any rate, the government pulled troops and assists out of Portland over a MONTH ago! Please tell me things have gotten better since then and that Wheeler has everything under control.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Wait, I thought I had that sewn up? You fickle SOB!

Yeah, but I’m the only one here who has never made a Mrs. HCP joke.......

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yeah, but I’m the only one here who has never made a Mrs. HCP joke.......

Yes but you should hear the ones she makes about you.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Ted Wheeler is an abject failure as Mayor of Portland, OR

Now we can agree on something!! But current events have nothing to do with Wheeler being an abject failure. And you know the very best part of this argument??? Neither you nor I live in Portland!!!! But I DO live in very close proximity and visit several times weekly. Your vision/version of Portland is a Republican’s fever dream.....and just as accurate.....

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Yes but you should hear the ones she makes about you.

That’s because HCP and I have the same body type......

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I made a post about Ted Wheeler. But, like happens so many times in here, it all gets twisted to somehow being Trump's fault. OK, yeah, true enough, I posted a link whereas Wheeler wants to blame Trump for EVERYTHING. So I guess all bets are off there.

At any rate, the government pulled troops and assists out of Portland over a MONTH ago! Please tell me things have gotten better since then and that Wheeler has everything under control.

Do you want me to post a link where Trump blames Wheeler for everything?? Two can play that game you know.

 

[ABM]

Now we can agree on something!! But current events have nothing to do with Wheeler being an abject failure. And you know the very best part of this argument??? Neither you nor I live in Portland!!!! But I DO live in very close proximity and visit several times weekly. Your vision/version of Portland is a Republican’s fever dream.....and just as accurate.....

As I related in previous posts, all of my family lives there and not all Republican.

 

[ABM]

Do you want me to post a link where Trump blames Wheeler for everything?? Two can play that game you know.

No, you don't have to. What might you like to see Trump do specifically for the city of Portland, other than bring in a show of force?

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

No, you don't have to. What might you like to see Trump do specifically for the city of Portland, other than bring in a show of force?

I’d like him to leave the City of Portland alone and forget it even exists. We are the enemy because we are a state he cannot win, no matter what. He is stoking the violence here in order to scare voters in other states because he has noting to lose but the election. Criminy, Trump plans to bulldoze his way into Wisconsin where he will only make a bonfire into a conflagration. The governor has told him to stay home! It isn’t just the people of Portland and Oregon who see the guy as dangerous. What makes you sooooooo obtuse?? He is stoking the flames of hatred to get reelected. The man is a virulent cancer on the soul of this country, and he needs to be excised.

 

[ABM]

I’d like him to leave the City of Portland alone and forget it even exists. We are the enemy because we are a state he cannot win, no matter what. He is stoking the violence here in order to scare voters in other states because he has noting to lose but the election. Criminy, Trump plans to bulldoze his way into Wisconsin where he will only make a bonfire into a conflagration. The governor has told him to stay home! It isn’t just the people of Portland and Oregon who see the guy as dangerous. What makes you sooooooo obtuse?? He is stoking the flames of hatred to get reelected. The man is a virulent cancer on the soul of this country, and he needs to be excised.

Tell me how you really feel.

I asked you for your feedback....and you gave it to me. Thanks for that.

I do know that there's plenty of (local and national) Democratic leadership out there that hates Trump just as much, or more, than yourself. So, there's always that to contend with. Not certain how all that gets ironed out.....if ever.

 

[barfo]

What might you like to see Trump do specifically for the city of Portland, other than bring in a show of force?

Resign.

barfo

 

[ABM]

Re-sign.

barfo

Perfect.

 

[barfo]

Perfect.

barfo

 

[ABM]

barfo

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