Rumor claim on offer for Chandler

[Boise Blazer]

Im just not willing to hold onto players that have brief and rare flashes of greatness. This team has enough of those now (CJ, Meyers, etc) to let some go and trade them for players that fit better now. At this point I would much rather have a player that is consistently good/solid vs one (or two) that have great moments and look horrible at other times.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Wow, Blazer4ever has really gotten under some of your skins! While I disagree with several of his comments, some of the retorts are equally invalid.

Scotty Brooks sucks, no matter how far he's gone into the playoffs as a coach.
Ditto for a certain Rockets HOF coach.
Having your team go to the playoffs or playing well doesn't make you a great coach.

Stotts isn't great because he's won in the playoffs or has had 30 years experience. Stotts took a team many die hard blazer fans on these very boards wouldn't be .500 and took them to the 2nd round. Stotts took a mediocre offensive team and made them elite. This year he's done similar things with the defense. Stotts outcoached the rockets in the playoffs - that's huge.

I agree with blazer4ever that I would've liked to see Robinson get a lot of PT. However, none of us has seen the blazers practice everyday - Stotts has. It was totally unexpected to actually have Biebs play well. I was wrong, and I suspect blazer4ever was wrong. too.

Just to be clear, Stotts experience was only brought up as a contrast to Blazer4ever's listing his having watched the team for 15 years as a notch on his coaching résumé.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I want to hire blazer4ever to be my agent. He would make me sound like an all star and the Blazers would have to sign me!

 

[BBert]

Can someone please explain to me what the fuck is wrong with you even considering this trade? Do you not understand basketball? Not trying to be provocative here, I'm actually asking this pretty seriously.
How do you wish to replace 2 young studs with endless potential who sit patiently at the end of the bench without even pouting, just because they have a loser coach who doesn't understand basketball for a fact, then replace them with an aging, over the hill, ok at best, meh swingman?! Then you want to also add a 1st rounder and you say that's a good trade?

Are you responding to something in this thread? Could you be more specific?

 

[B-Roy]

I want to hire blazer4ever to be my agent. He would make me sound like an all star and the Blazers would have to sign me!

Actually, he would make himself sound like an all star and make the Blazers feel like they're lucky to be signing his client.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Are you responding to something in this thread? Could you be more specific?

Maybe cuz they're young but not studs...a lil flash doesn't make the player and more than likely their time is limited.

You get something for these kind of guys if the trading partner sees value in them. And hopefully they see these two the way you do

For blazer4ever

 

[BigGameDamian]

Im just not willing to hold onto players that have brief and rare flashes of greatness. This team has enough of those now (CJ, Meyers, etc) to let some go and trade them for players that fit better now. At this point I would much rather have a player that is consistently good/solid vs one (or two) that have great moments and look horrible at other times.

Totally Agree!! There comes a time when you just need to stop relying on building out of the draft. Quit baking the cake all the time. Sometimes I really don't like the word potential.

 

[BBert]

I want to hire blazer4ever to be my agent. He would make me sound like an all star and the Blazers would have to sign me!

Not if you are going to take minutes away from TRob, SlyPokerBiebs.

 

[BBert]

I was genuinely confused by the post. Guess I should have read the next four pages before responding, LOL.

 

[BBert]

"...endless potential...." LOL

I love this place.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

"...endless potential...." LOL

I love this place.

You have endless potential, he has endless potential, WE ALL HAVE ENDLESS POTENTIAL!!!!!!

 

[Strenuus]

You have endless potential, he has endless potential, WE ALL HAVE ENDLESS POTENTIAL!!!!!!

AND YOU GET ENDLESS POTENTIAL!!! AND YOU GET ENDLESS POTENTIAL!!! WE ALLL GET ENDLESS POTENTIAL!!!

 

[Pinwheel1]

Totally Agree!! There comes a time when you just need to stop relying on building out of the draft. Quit baking the cake all the time. Sometimes I really don't like the word potential.

Well that scenario has to be determined on a case to case basis. But the bottom line in this particular situation is the pieces Neil is willing to move are low risk pieces. He is offering players who are free agents after this year. Players whose contracts he decided last summer not to guarantee. Players who he now thinks will not resign, but still could even if he traded them. (Unless they changed the rule)

The only thing he is giving up of risk is the draft pick. Not that Will and TRob don't have value, but he has already determined that Leonard is a better ingredient than TRob for our particular cake, and CJ and Crabbe is better suited than Will. It's a numbers game and Neil has determined who his top 10 keepers are.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If trading TRob and Barton is mortgaging our future, Paul Allen must have gotten himself one of those sub-prime mortgages, because those are two sub-par players.

These guys are both in their 3rd seasons and STILL constantly make rookie mistakes. Meyers Leonard, who most people here claimed was a bust with ZERO chance of ever being anything but a wasted draft pack has passed these bozos and lapped them about 1000 times. Both players are what they are. They have shown no improvement and likely never will. They are great athletes who aren't very good basketball players.

If you trade them for someone who is a solid bench player, you do it without hesitation and are better for it. Wherever these two end up, they will make an occasional highlight reel play that will make their supporters say, "see, told you!". What you won't see on SportsCenter are the countless stupid, unforced turnovers, ill advised shots and blown defensive assignments.

BNM

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Actually, he would make himself sound like an all star and make the Blazers feel like they're lucky to be signing his client.

As long as I get signed I have no problem with that.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

If trading TRob and Barton is mortgaging our future, Paul Allen must have gotten himself one of those sub-prime mortgages, because those are two sub-par players.

These guys are both in their 3rd seasons and STILL constantly make rookie mistakes. Meyers Leonard, who most people here claimed was a bust with ZERO chance of ever being anything but a wasted draft pack has passed these bozos and lapped them about 1000 times. Both players are what they are. They have shown no improvement and likely never will. They are great athletes who aren't very good basketball players.

If you trade them for someone who is a solid bench player, you do it without hesitation and are better for it. Wherever these two end up, they will make an occasional highlight reel play that will make their supporters say, "see, told you!". What you won't see on SportsCenter are the countless stupid, unforced turnovers, ill advised shots and blown defensive assignments.

BNM

How many consecutive 20 minute games has TRob had? How did he do in those? Last time he started, he tore it up. He hasn't really gotten a good chance, I'm not sure he ever will. He passes the eye test, but that's on the offensive end of the floor - my guess is that he doesn't see play because of his defensive lapses.

Meyers Leonard is playing great, but seriously it's because he's not trying to do anything out there. Defend, rebound, try to be in the right place at the right time, pass the ball, shoot it if you're open.

 

[Scalma]

Meyers Leonard is playing great, but seriously it's because he's not trying to do anything out there. Defend, rebound, try to be in the right place at the right time, pass the ball, shoot it if you're open.

Yeah, it's called team basketball. Trob could learn a thing or two about it. Barton too. No wonder they're such good friends.

 

[illmatic99]

 

[PtldPlatypus]

How many consecutive 20 minute games has TRob had? How did he do in those? Last time he started, he tore it up. He hasn't really gotten a good chance, I'm not sure he ever will. He passes the eye test, but that's on the offensive end of the floor - my guess is that he doesn't see play because of his defensive lapses.

Meyers Leonard is playing great, but seriously it's because he's not trying to do anything out there. Defend, rebound, try to be in the right place at the right time, pass the ball, shoot it if you're open.

How many times have we heard players be accused of "trying to do too much"? I'd much rather a player does a little of the right things than a lot of the wrong things.

 

[riverman]

As long as I get signed I have no problem with that.

I thought the Westminster Dog Show wrapped up a couple days ago? There's always next season Sly!

 

[H.C.]

Chandler is a solid rotational player for a playoff team.
Barton doesn't deserve minutes this year because he's too out of control whenever he's on the court.
T-Rob still doesn't understand it defensively. He goes hard offensively, but he's limited in that area also.
Pretty disappointed with both Barton/T-Rob this year. No excuse to show what they've been showing when they get minutes off the bench.

And this is coming from someone who told people irl that Barton/T-Rob would be amazing this year.
supreme disappointment.

 

[Strenuus]

I want Afflalo... sorry, CJ.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I thought the Westminster Dog Show wrapped up a couple days ago? There's always next season Sly!

The beagle won too, I don't think sly is a beagle.

 

[Blazinaway]

that could be taken a few ways;

does Denver want CJ?
or does it make Neil not want to trade CJ or more reluctant to trade at all?

 

[PDXFonz]

Blazers interested in Lebron James but sources say recent play of Cavs could be a factor in decision.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

If Neil is givimg up a first-rounder for a potential rental in Afflalo I hope he demands the rights to 19 y/o Nikola Jokic to be in the deal.

Jokic would be a first-rounder this year IMO.

First year with playing time: (Adriatic) 14 PPG | 9 RPG | 4 APG | 49 FG%
19 years old | 6'11" | 253 lbs | 9'3" standing reach

 

[TBpup]

If Neil is givimg up a first-rounder for a potential rental in Afflalo I hope he demands the rights to 19 y/o Nikola Jokic to be in the deal.

Jokic would be a first-rounder this year IMO.

First year with playing time: (Adriatic) 14 PPG | 9 RPG | 4 APG | 49 FG%
19 years old | 6'11" | 253 lbs | 9'3" standing reach

All for that. Since Portland doesn't have a 2nd rounder until the Apocalypse, that seems reasonable especially since either Afflalo or Chandler is a short-timer.

 

[riverman]

If Neil is givimg up a first-rounder for a potential rental in Afflalo I hope he demands the rights to 19 y/o Nikola Jokic to be in the deal.

Jokic would be a first-rounder this year IMO.

First year with playing time: (Adriatic) 14 PPG | 9 RPG | 4 APG | 49 FG%
19 years old | 6'11" | 253 lbs | 9'3" standing reach

That's downright Rudy Gobert(ish)

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If Neil is givimg up a first-rounder for a potential rental in Afflalo I hope he demands the rights to 19 y/o Nikola Jokic to be in the deal.

Jokic would be a first-rounder this year IMO.

First year with playing time: (Adriatic) 14 PPG | 9 RPG | 4 APG | 49 FG%
19 years old | 6'11" | 253 lbs | 9'3" standing reach

Yeah, I'm sure that a rebuilding team who's looking to dump all their decent players for picks and spend the next couple years tanking would love to throw in their high potential overseas prospect.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I read that Denver has been a massive ten points per 100 possessions worse defensively when Chandler is on the floor. Maybe there is an explanation, e.g. he always plays with Hickson, but that doesn't sound good. I second the idea by many to trade for Affalo and sign Prince.