Computer-assisted Refereeing

[blue9]

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/baseball-game-no-umpire/?mbid=social_fb

I didn't read the article because fuck baseball. But I do like the idea of getting more consistent (and correct) calls from our circuit-based friends.

 

[dviss1]

Ralph....

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/baseball-game-no-umpire/?mbid=social_fb

I didn't read the article because fuck baseball. But I do like the idea of getting more consistent (and correct) calls from our circuit-based friends.

Dude, don't be rude. Baseball is all that gets me through the summer and and back into basketball season. Go Giants! And fuck the NFL.....

 

[HailBlazers]

Don't know about computer assisted but I think they need an extra official on the sideline in front of a monitor to speed ish up and ensure correct calls.

 

[blue9]

Don't know about computer assisted but I think they need an extra official on the sideline in front of a monitor to speed ish up and ensure correct calls.

I'd actually like calls to be made by officials who are OFF the court, who have access to a ton of different camera angles. Put 5 guys in a box with a bunch of monitors. Outfit arenas with a whole new network of cameras that can capture all the action on the court. Each of the 5 guys is assigned to watch one pair of players (one from each team). And they all have buttons to sound a horn and stop the clock when there's a game-changing infraction. They radio down to the floor refs, who then enforce the call and handle ball duties.
This would also remove whining and arbitrary techs from the game, as the refs on the floor aren't the ones making the calls.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

Dream on. This would make it way harder to rig games.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I'd actually like calls to be made by officials who are OFF the court, who have access to a ton of different camera angles. Put 5 guys in a box with a bunch of monitors. Outfit arenas with a whole new network of cameras that can capture all the action on the court. Each of the 5 guys is assigned to watch one pair of players (one from each team). And they all have buttons to sound a horn and stop the clock when there's a game-changing infraction. They radio down to the floor refs, who then enforce the call and handle ball duties.
This would also remove whining and arbitrary techs from the game, as the refs on the floor aren't the ones making the calls.

I wonder how long games would be...

 

[handiman]

I'd actually like calls to be made by officials who are OFF the court, who have access to a ton of different camera angles.

Who would the Clippers complain to, the camera?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

3 in the key,
out of bounds,
3 point line,
10 second rule (or is it 8 now to get past midcourt?)

These rules require zero interpretation, and would be great for a computer/camera to do.

edit: and while we're at it, have the computer send a jolt of electricity through each of the refs on a 3rd 3 in the key by a single individual player in a half.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

3 in the key,
out of bounds,
3 point line,
10 second rule (or is it 8 now to get past midcourt?)

These rules require zero interpretation, and would be great for a computer/camera to do.

edit: and while we're at it, have the computer send a jolt of electricity through each of the refs on a 3rd 3 in the key by a single individual player in a half.

Memphis would never get points if they called 3 in the key accurately lol

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I say go the other way entirely. Give each team one rule they can bend at home, officially. In Memphis, there's no three in the key. In Portland, there are no moving picks. In Houston, rip-thru is allowed. In Utah, only white people are allowed to score.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/baseball-game-no-umpire/?mbid=social_fb

I didn't read the article because fuck baseball. But I do like the idea of getting more consistent (and correct) calls from our circuit-based friends.

I would rather replace the players with robots.

 

[ripcityboy]

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/baseball-game-no-umpire/?mbid=social_fb

I didn't read the article because fuck baseball. But I do like the idea of getting more consistent (and correct) calls from our circuit-based friends.

Good thing it wasn't a football based article. FUCK THE NFL.

 

[stampedehero]

To end debate, refs can flip a coin.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

To end debate, refs can flip a coin.

so, you're for keeping the rules like they currently are....

 

[stampedehero]

so, you're for keeping the rules like they currently are....

Yes. Baseball was meant to be pure rather than a tech conduit.

 

[dviss1]

Dream on. This would make it way harder to rig games.

Um... No... This would make it way easier.... It's the same reason no one should vote on machines...

 

[dviss1]

Memphis would never get points if they called 3 in the key accurately lol

Do you know how It's supposed to be called? If you think It's a black and white call. It is not.

 

[dviss1]

3 in the key,
out of bounds,
3 point line,
10 second rule (or is it 8 now to get past midcourt?)

These rules require zero interpretation, and would be great for a computer/camera to do.

edit: and while we're at it, have the computer send a jolt of electricity through each of the refs on a 3rd 3 in the key by a single individual player in a half.

False...

 

[dviss1]

If 3 seconds was called by the letter of the law and not advantage/disadvantage you'd never get to see the game. There would be no game. It would be referees blowing their whistles every single play.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

If 3 seconds was called by the letter of the law and not advantage/disadvantage you'd never get to see the game. There would be no game. It would be referees blowing their whistles every single play.

Players would adjust, like they do to like they do to rules changing game to game.

edit: otherwise change the rule to how it's actually called.

 

[dviss1]

Players would adjust, like they do to like they do to rules changing game to game.

edit: otherwise change the rule to how it's actually called.

You need a human calling That call. 3 seconds happens on every play.

I think It's hilarious how this is one of the only jobs where people have no clue of what you do yet want to tell you how to do it.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Do you know how It's supposed to be called? If you think It's a black and white call. It is not.

I always assumed it was defensive 3 seconds if someone puppy guarded the rim with no designated opposing player (like a zone defense in a way), offensively I just thought it was similar to the 5 second post back down rule just without the ball and in the paint.

 

[dviss1]

I always assumed it was defensive 3 seconds if someone puppy guarded the rim with no designated opposing player (like a zone defense in a way), offensively I just thought it was similar to the 5 second post back down rule just without the ball and in the paint.

The defensive rule its called very much like the offensive rule. If a player is in the lane for 3 seconds and is retreating at second 3, there is no reason to call three seconds because he is losing the any advantage he gained from being in the key. There's no reason to call three seconds on a player leaving the key. The second a player gains an advantage from being in the key to long is when it is called. Otherwise it's the worst call in basketball.

 

[noknobs]

You need a human calling That call. 3 seconds happens on every play.

Well a computer wouldn't let that happen now would it.

 

[dviss1]

Well a computer wouldn't let that happen now would it.

Then we would never see a basketball game we would just see a computer bleep fest. Stop. Go. Stop. Go. There would be no flow. Games will take a thousand years. If NBA referees did their jobs correctly they would be calling 3 secs the moment the player gained an advantage from being in the key too long.

 

[dviss1]

Go referee some games guys... Get on the other side of the whistle before you criticize.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Basketball like any team sport is so hard to call 100% or even 50% correctly. It's sad but a necessary evil to miss on half the travels, carries, goaltends and 3 second calls. Like dviss1 said... Games would take an eternity.

 

[dviss1]

Basketball like any team sport is so hard to call 100% or even 50% correctly. It's sad but a necessary evil to miss on half the travels, carries, goaltends and 3 second calls. Like dviss1 said... Games would take an eternity.

Well.. They need to step up on calling traveling...

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Go referee some games guys... Get on the other side of the whistle before you criticize.

OK, I've play all of 2 years of organized ball, you've reffed for many years. You understand the nuance of officiating, I don't. Check. I am not questioning your authority on the matter of reffing, or understanding defense.

Buttttttt, you don't need to know one whole hell of a lot to see that players are regularly in the fucking key for 4, 5, 6 seconds or more. I don't care whether they're leaving the key or not, they should under no circumstances be in the key for 6 seconds before a shot goes up, and it isn't called.

If you don't like 3.00 seconds, then fine, have the computer call 4.0 seconds, or even 4.5 seconds. But at some point, the nuances don't matter - the refs are just plain screwing up. That is what I, many on this board, and even casual bball fans want to end. A computer could do it.