Event Congratulations to the World Cup Winners

[Lanny]

The take is that everyone cares about the MEN'S World Cup. If the US Mens team made it into the World Cup at all, their first match would probably have more people watching than the Women's Final.


The US doesn't give a shit about soccer versus the rest of the world. Women's soccer is even worse in terms on interest.

Add to that the team has a bunch of politicizing players on it and stepped on the flag after celebrating the win.

I think you're wrong about the U.S. not caring a whit about soccer. I've seen the interest grow from the days when you would have been right to a much greater interest today.

 

[H.C.]

The entire purse for the 2019 women's world cup was 30 million.
The entire purse for the 2019 men's world cup was 400 million.
Men's and Womens world cups are held at different times.

Theres an argument to be made that if the women were given the same platform/promotions as the men. That they'd generate more revenue. Would it equal the difference? Who knows.
But there is also an argument to be made that women need to show their sport is promotable . That they can generate fans, tv deals, and money.
Right now they can't.

One solution is to hold both world cups at the same time.
The solution is not to just hand the soccer athletes tax dollars.
Oh and iirc these women are salary employees. The men only make money if they do anything.

Also iirc women get a larger potion of the pie in NWSL than the Men do.

IIRC Thorns are an exception to the rule that NWSL can't sell tickets.
Oregon is weird like that.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I think you're wrong about the U.S. not caring a whit about soccer. I've seen the interest grow from the days when you would have been right to a much greater interest today.

Well, it's kind of like the Olympics. People only give a shit every 4 years. And most of those people are posers.

 

[Lanny]

Well, it's kind of like the Olympics. People only give a shit every 4 years. And most of those people are posers.

Maybe it's just living in Soccer City U.S.A. but it seems like the sport is exploding. I see the kids in the high school across the street from me practicing every day on the football field. I see where every high school has a soccer team.
When I was a kid, before electricity, I remember playing soccer on our athletic field back in the 50s for crying out loud. Okay, I went to a school where the kids came from wealthy homes, but still it was a harbinger.
I'm not trying to say that MLS is big like MLB or the NFL or the NBA but it definitely is on the rise and pretty popular.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Looks just like the Men's Celebration!

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

You think the Portland Thorns is anywhere near the level of excitement of the Timbers? That's just the stadium capacity. Talking about public watch parties and total reach. When the Thorns were in their final, were there huge watch parties at the Crystal Ballroom, etc?

You wear a Timbers jersey at Alaska Airlines, you get to board first.

I mean rah rah women, but to think they are anywhere near the same level as men is ridiculous.

Never heard of the Portland Thorns. Seriously. Nothing American about the US women’s team, and they should maybe play under a different name as most Americans find them rude, arrogant, self-absorbed, unsportsmanlike, anti-American and actively hateful towards any Americans who exercise Freedom of speech. Their disgusting dragging and walking on the flag will be the image that defines them forever.

Slow boring day for you guys, eh? I mean, this is some bottom of the barrel, low hanging fruit, lazy trolling. You two need to up your games. You’re men after all. Doesn't that make you better at everything????? The dog days of summer really suck around here......

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Just being realistic here.

The men's world cup is the main event. The big money maker. Where iconic stars who will be remembered for generations make their mark.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[noknobs]

Never heard of the Portland Thorns. Seriously. Nothing American about the US women’s team, and they should maybe play under a different name as most Americans find them rude, arrogant, self-absorbed, unsportsmanlike, anti-American and actively hateful towards any Americans who exercise Freedom of speech. Their disgusting dragging and walking on the flag will be the image that defines them forever.

Totally inaccurate in ever way. Well done. Very proud of the team, represented the country very well.

 

[crandc]

Totally American. And world.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[noknobs]

The take is that everyone cares about the MEN'S World Cup. If the US Mens team made it into the World Cup at all, their first match would probably have more people watching than the Women's Final.

U.S. Vs. Ghana World Cup Match: A TV Ratings Hit For ESPN With 11,093,000 Viewers

In a thrilling debut in the 2014 FIFA World Cup, team USA pulled off a victory against Ghana on Monday, and with it, ESPN hit television ratings gold. The 2-1 victory for the U.S. Monday drew averaged a 6.3 US HH rating and 11,093,000 viewers, making it the highest-rated and most-viewed men’s soccer match – including 265 from the FIFA World Cup – on ESPN or ESPN2 on record, according to the Nielsen Company. ESPN said that it was the highest overnight rating ever for a men’s World Cup match on ESPN or ESPN2.

US viewers tuned into women's World Cup final in record numbers

In the United States, Sunday's US women's national soccer team victory in the 2019 World Cup ranked as one of the highest-rated soccer telecasts in the history of the sport.

About 14 million people watched on TV in the U.S. on Sunday, according to Nielsen ratings.

With Fox's streaming viewership added to the total, about 14.3 million people tuned to the network for the US-Netherlands match.

An additional 1.6 million viewers watched it in Spanish on Telemundo.

I'm sure more people watch the U.S. men's team on average, duh. But it's hard to dispute that there's a large audience for the women's team as well. I root for both.

The US doesn't give a shit about soccer versus the rest of the world. Women's soccer is even worse in terms on interest.

Add to that the team has a bunch of politicizing players on it and stepped on the flag after celebrating the win.

What are you talking about? Nobody disrespected the flag. Allie Long was caught up in celebrating and it was on the ground two seconds before players picked it up and wrapped themselves in it. Nobody was walking on it or trying to disrespect it. Only media morons with a political agenda themselves could even try to spew that narrative with a straight face.

And nothing wrong with them not going to meet Trump. They're probably, and rightfully so, scared he's going to "grab them by the pussy."

Not the first people or team to turn that invitation down the last couple of years.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

That was 5 years ago versus today. Numbers would be different. If the Men played in the World Cup, it would likely match these numbers. but the men's team are fucking losers anyway and these women at least won something. So on that part of the equation, they are better than the men.

Should they be paid the same? Fuck no. No one can name 5 current female soccer players without using Google. Most sports fans can name any 5 mens soccer players with no problem. Democrats are trying to pass a bill to defund the World Cup when it comes to America in a few years if there's no equal pay. And to be honest, I hope they pass it, then FIFA yanks the World Cup from the US and doesn't extend an invite to either the mens or women's team.

They threw the flag on the ground. That's not disrespect? Look, I could give two fucks about the flag to be honest, but I think it was funny and I don't think the women's team gave a fuck either. It clearly got in the way of the photo, so lets just toss it on the ground. Any time you throw the flag on the ground, its clearly disrespectful.

in any case, I never cheer for America unless Lillard is playing.

 

[noknobs]

That was 5 years ago versus today. Numbers would be different. If the Men played in the World Cup, it would likely match these numbers.

They threw the flag on the ground. That's not disrespect? Look, I could give two fucks about the flag to be honest, but I think it was funny and I don't think the women's team gave a fuck either. It clearly got in the way of the photo, so lets just toss it on the ground.

They did not "throw" the flag down... smh... and no, if you watch the clip it's clearly not meant to be disrespectful to the flag. Just caught up in the moment because a lifelong goal had just been achieved.

in any case, I never cheer for America unless Lillard is playing.

Shocker

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The flag was in their hands. They had to pose for a picture. Flag ended up on the ground. That's throwing it on the ground.

Caught up in the moment = had better shit to do than to hold the red, white and blue from being in the dirt.


What would you call it? Would the flag go on the ground on its own volition?

 

[noknobs]

The flag was in their hands. They had to pose for a picture. Flag ended up on the ground. That's throwing it on the ground.

What would you call it? Would the flag go on the ground on its own volition?

I would call it setting the flag down... where it remained for 1-2 seconds before being picked up.

Call it whatever you want, free country.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I would call it setting the flag down... where it remained for 1-2 seconds before being picked up.

Call it whatever you want, free country.

They set the flag down on the ground? What a crock of shit.

 

[noknobs]

They set the flag down on the ground? What a crock of shit.

Have you even seen the video? It was about a foot off the ground when she let go. And again, intent. It wasn't mean to be disrespectful.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Have you even seen the video?

Yes.
This is clearly throwing the flag on the ground (then they step on it)

 

[noknobs]

Yes.

And if that's your take away, you clearly have an agenda yourself, because no one who's objective about it could watch that video and then write that tweet. They were never even on top of it.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

And if that's your take away, you clearly have an agenda yourself, because no one who's objective about it could watch that video and then write that tweet. They were never even on top of it.

Shoe touched flag, which was on the ground, where it was thrown while the women posed for a picture.

Perfect summary of this team.

 

[ABM]

Why do people even make an issue about sports teams visiting the White House, or not? As if they're somehow elevated above the general population.

Meh.

 

[noknobs]

Some people just need to be outraged about things, even when they themselves "could give two fucks about the flag to be honest" and "never cheer for America unless Lillard is playing."

The hypocrisy is funny.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Some people just need to be outraged about things, even when they themselves "could give two fucks about the flag to be honest" and "never cheer for America unless Lillard is playing."

The hypocrisy is funny.

Keepin' them honest. If they "represent" America, when its clear they are not as they are more interested in representing themselves (not that there's anything wrong with that)

 

[noknobs]

Keepin' them honest. If they "represent" America, when its clear they are not as they are more interested in representing themselves (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Nothing about your interpretation of the events is honest.
At any rate I think I'm done.
Keep up the good fight.

 

[crandc]

FFS. A flag was briefly dropped, bumped into, and picked up. The so called incident lasted all of 3 seconds. Clearly unintentional. But for insecure males who hate women's sports, lesbians, outspoken women, equal pay, they have to hate this team. Since no one can dispute their skills, make shit up about their behavior. Doesn't have to be true, just an excuse for the Fox news crowd to clutch their pearls in horror.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Nothing about your interpretation of the events is honest.
At any rate I think I'm done.
Keep up the good fight.

FFS. A flag was briefly dropped, bumped into, and picked up. The so called incident lasted all of 3 seconds. Clearly unintentional. But for insecure males who hate women's sports, lesbians, outspoken women, equal pay, they have to hate this team. Since no one can dispute their skills, make shit up about their behavior. Doesn't have to be true, just an excuse for the Fox news crowd to clutch their pearls in horror.

I don't know why I bother with checking the forum. I just felt the need to respond to these fabricated posts.

The three women doing whatever hybrid chimpanzee/airplane dance that was clearly didn't give a fuck about the flag. A woman behind them did.

The tweet el pres quoted was maybe not 100 percent accurate but it's a fucking mile closer to accurate than what you two are seeing through your Trump Anxiety Disorder afflicted eyes.

 

[noknobs]

The three women doing whatever hybrid chimpanzee/airplane dance that was clearly didn't give a fuck about the flag. A woman behind them did.

The tweet el pres quoted was maybe not 100 percent accurate but it's a fucking mile closer to accurate than what you two are seeing through your Trump Anxiety Disorder afflicted eyes.

Do you even know why she had the flag to begin with? Because she had had it wrapped around herself as they went around the stadium, which took some time. And I'm to believe that she suddenly had a change of heart and decided out of the fucking blue to thrown down, disrespect and step on the flag because they didn't give a fuck about it? You think that's a fucking mile closer to accurate?

What the fuck is wrong with you? Have you lost all objectivity or are you just completely ignorant to the fact I gave since you weren't spoon-fed it by your conservative media who found a two second clip that they can get outraged over? And then you follow them like a fucking child. Why am I asking, of course you didn't see it in context. That would require an open mind and actually caring to know the truth.

And before you say anything, no, I'm not a democrat. Fuck no. Just someone who hates all you twats needing to be outraged over every fucking thing. The Americans won, showed a lot of national pride afterwards, and this is what you latch onto. It shows just how up your own ass you really are.