Connecticut School Shooting

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I mean this is another one this month

http://news.msn.com/us/neighbor-wyoming-killer-was-upset-with-father

Police said 25-year-old Christopher Krumm stabbed Heidi Arnold on Friday, and then shot his father, computer science instructor James Krumm, with the bow-and-arrow in front of a group of students before taking his own life.

VERNON, Conn. — A man who police say killed his father, a woman and himself in Wyoming on Friday told a neighbor in Connecticut weeks before the killings that he believed his father gave him Asperger's syndrome and said his dad should be "castrated" to prevent him from having more children.

Neighbor Matt DiPinto of Vernon, Conn., told local reporters that Christopher Krumm made the comments while giving him a ride home a few weeks ago.

"He's like, 'So my dad gave me Asperger's ... and my dad should have never had any kids. He should have never had me and passed it on to me, and the government shouldn't have let him have kids,'" DiPinto told Fox affiliate WTIC-TV. "It was just out of nowhere ... but he seemed pretty livid about it."

 

[HailBlazers]

15 mass killings this year

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The brain loves to find patterns... I'd hesitate to make assumptions... but yeah, all killers are basically the same after they kill a bunch of folks.

It's not after we have to be concerned about. I'll pull together a lineup of the usual suspects and make a thread over the next few days tying them to autism.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

http://www.jaapl.org/content/34/3/374.full

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

My boss' son is in a program for "independent living" for people with disabilities, etc.....he had a roommate a few years ago with Aspergers who threatened to shoot up his workplace (it was a petsmart) for some reason....police got involved but nothing happened really and he just went to live with his mom again.

 

[maxiep]

Actually, if he really was mad, it wasn't evil. Make up your mind.



Imagine if none of them had guns. Now imagine this guy going to the school without a gun. How many kids do you seriously think he could have killed?



You don't say! So obviously, allowing everybody to own their own anthrax would do nothing to increase that risk, so it should be legal. What's that you say? It shouldn't? Because it increases the risk needlessly (despite the fact that they could get it illegally if they really tried)? Well maaaaaaaaybe that applies to guns, too!

I have never owned a gun. I have never even touched a handgun. My life is surprisingly not empty and barren. The government hasn't exploited my vulnerability to come and take all my stuff. My house has never been broken into. And for twelve years I've lived in Flint, Michigan. If I can do it, I think you crazy gun nuts can too.

I choose freedom. You feel free to give up your rights.

 

[maxiep]

we can't protect everyone all the time, but if you knew there was a way to protect your own child from being harmed, wouldn't you want to use it?

No. Life isn't riskless. And there's an emotional cost to your kids by keeping them in a bubble. I have friends who tried to protect their children from everything. As a result, they are the most timid, fearful and incapable adolecents I've ever seen. I don't see anything wrong with my son riding a bike without a helmet, not being in a car seat or riding in the back of a pickup. However, I don't have that freedom. Some legislator thinks they know better than I do how to raise my child. Newsflash: You can't protect yourself or your children from everything. When you try, you simply paralyze the child. Why do so when the risk is so low?

 

[maxiep]

Banning cars prevents 35,000 deaths.

I'm trying to find some logic in your argument.

Banning peanuts prevents countless deaths.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think we should just outlaw death..... banning death should prevent countless deaths, right?

 

[oldmangrouch]

I choose freedom. You feel free to give up your rights.

The constitution protects the right of free speech - but that won't save you if you get caught with kiddie porn..

The 1st amendmant also protects freedom of religion - but society draws the line at human sacrifice.

The Bill of Rights protects against search and seizure - but only if they are unreasonable.

My point is that rights aren't unlimited. I am a gun owner and I respect the Bill of Rights......but "freedom" and "common sense" are not incompatible.

 

[julius]

earlier, we had comments about perspective.

Here is some real perspective.
All from Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper
Allison Wyatt was six.
Benjamin Wheeler was six.
Teacher Victoria Soto was 27.
Mary Sherlach, the school psychologist, was 56.
Lauren Rousseau, a teacher, was 30.
Avielle Richman was six.
Jessica Rekos was six.
Caroline Previdi was six.
Noah Pozner was six.
Jack Pinto was six.
Emilie Parker was six.
Anne Marie Murphy was 52.
Grace McDonnell was seven.
James Mattioli was five.
Jesse Lewis was six.
Chase Kowalski was seven.
Catherine Hubbard was six.
Madeleine Hsu was six.
Dawn Hochsprung, the principal, was 47.
Dylan Hockley was six.
Ana Marquez-Greene was six.
Josephine Gay was seven.
Olivia Engel was six.
Rachel Davino was 29.
Daniel Barden was seven.
Charlotte Bacon was six.

I didn't highlight the ages of the adults not because their deaths aren't important, but to emphasize the ages of the young.

 

[RoyToy]

I can hardly watch the news on this. I turn away after 3-4mins

Too hard

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I can hardly watch the news on this. I turn away after 3-4mins

Too hard

Fucking pants-shitting coward. A real man would watch and then buy 20 guns.

 

[PapaG]

Fucking pants-shitting coward. A real man would watch and then buy 20 guns.

You act as if you are the only person shaken by this. Do you even have kids?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

You act as if you are the only person shaken by this. Do you even have kids?

Is that what you got out of that post? If so, I apologize. I take it you were affected as well?

One neice, 9 years old. Two god-children, 5 and 7. Trying to put one in the oven myself.

 

[julius]

Is that what you got out of that post? If so, I apologize. I take it you were affected as well?

One neice, 9 years old. Two god-children, 5 and 7. Trying to put one in the oven myself.

don't put children in the oven. It never works out (see: Hansel and Gretel)

 

[BlazerCaravan]

don't put children in the oven. It never works out (see: Hansel and Gretel)

But they're so tasty!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Of course Westboro had to make some kind of statement.

"God sent the shooter"

The most vile trolls on the planet.

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

Oh, thank Christ for that! My life will be protected by some gun-packing nutball who thinks he's Dirty Harry. Hallelujah.

'Gun-packing nutball' and 'self-dellusion' do not follow from CC. The thought that it does, could indicate cognitive damage. Maybe you should be locked up (assuming you are not currently).

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

No, or else you'll be legislated. That was kind of my (poorly worded, incredibly angry) point. Most people see no point to guns at all. If this shit keeps coming up, the "statistical anomaly" argument will be less and less effective until eventually your right to own a gun will be removed. Secure your shit, lock your triggers, and educate your friends, for fuck's sake. That way when one of your nutjob friends tries to steal your AR-15, they won't succeed.

Again, what comes through in your post is poor reasoning -- ridiculous conclusions based on nothing but your own ignorance. I'd be more concerned with that (i.e., getting designated as cognitively impaired), than I would my imagined friends. By the way, an AR-15 does not fit anyone's understanding of CC.

Learn to deal with your emotions more appropriately -- everyone will be better off.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Again, what comes through in your post is poor reasoning -- ridiculous conclusions based on nothing but your own ignorance. I'd be more concerned with that (i.e., getting designated as cognitively impaired), than I would my imagined friends. By the way, an AR-15 does not fit anyone's understanding of CC.

Learn to deal with your emotions more appropriately -- everyone will be better off.

Very nice tell-off. Bravo, sir.

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

They didn't say YOU should look at them. Sometimes it isn't about you. Besides, haven't you got malls to patrol to protect the unarmed?

They ... did not specify.

Seems to hardly matter though, as most of the time you don't seem to really know who it is about.

Patrolling? I haven't the time for such projects. But there is something you're being very stupid about -- it is possible this troubled young man could have been stopped.

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

From the photo you can obviously see his right eye is red, thus, Satan is opperating from the boy's visual cortex. If he's right handed, there's a good chance his left cerebral hemisphere (the hemisphere of action and aggression). Kids need to photographed at a young age. These photos can then be entered into a national data base and all Satan-eyed children, monitored.

 

[julius]

From the photo you can obviously see his right eye is red, thus, Satan is opperating from the boy's visual cortex. If he's right handed, there's a good chance his left cerebral hemisphere (the hemisphere of action and aggression). Kids need to photographed at a young age. These photos can then be entered into a national data base and all Satan-eyed children, monitored.

not sure what you're trying to accomplish here, but I don't think it has a place here.

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

Domestic violence -- another example of the role of our emotional systems in aggressive action.

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

Can I have a volunteer from you gun rights defenders to go to a parent of one of those kids and say:
"You realize the odds of your kid dying like this were 1 in 20 million?"
Or:
"Sorry this had to happen, but you know banning guns wouldn't help, right? Yes, I know he got them legally, but surely he would have found some other way - your kid was a goner whatever happened."

You seem to have the requisite level of insensitivity; I nominate you.

 

[chevyrunssometimes]

Please stop trying to give arguments. You're just not good at it. Once again you use ludicrously inept analogies.

I would heed this man's advice, he has a vast amount of personal experience in such matters.

 

[julius]

I would heed this man's advice, he has a vast amount of personal experience in such matters.

you seem to be singling out Rastapopoulos, to the point where you're trolling him. Please stop.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

you seem to be singling out Rastapopoulos, to the point where you're trolling him. Please stop.

Actually it's good to see him post. He's from Oregonlive. A very nice guy. Once he learns we may disagree on somethings but for the most part we're all pretty mellow he'll take it down a notch.

 

[julius]

Actually it's good to see him post. He's from Oregonlive. A very nice guy. Once he learns we may disagree on somethings but for the most part we're all pretty mellow he'll take it down a notch.

singling out someone and making it personal is trolling. doesn't mean he's not a normally fine person, just that it was just escalating things.

This isn't oregonlive, we don't put up with shit like that