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And it doesn’t have to mean it’s nefarious either. Being proactive to study the mutations is in the boundaries of good science. Especially when they’ve (China) had epidemics of SARS before.

It can be entirely possible that a level 4 lab, Secretary of State officials warning the safety of those labs were in question, accidentally infected one of their workers.
 
magnifier661 said:
I’m not one to put stock in fox or any other high profile media outlet. I usually read both sides, check their supporting links and find my own interpretation of the data.
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I'm pointing out the gaps in logic when it comes to Trump "fixing the media", not whether or not you fact check.
 
BonesJones said:
I'm pointing out the gaps in logic when it comes to Trump "fixing the media", not whether or not you fact check.
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Well, that’s easy. Over sensualist headlines by all media exposing the reports of narrative, not actual news. And, as I explained, it’s on all fronts of the media spectrum.
 
wizenheimer said:
this is kind of depressing:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/16/number-coronavirus-pandemic
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Here is a big unknown and a possible giant problem, it's the people who are asymptomatic right now. Being asymptomatic does not mean they are immune. It means they are not being affected currently by the virus. Their immune system is doing well and keeping the virus at bay. Something like getting the flu could be enough to stress the immune system and suddenly it's trying to fight the flu and the coronavirus.

There might be some evidence to support this when looking at how healthcare workers are not fitting in the standard demographic of only the olds are getting sick from this. Stress has a proven impact on the immune system and healthcare workers on the frontlines are extremely stressed and tired from the long hours being worked right now.

That's why mass testing is so important right now. It doesn't just give us the basic who is and who isn't infected, it establishes a timeline of when someone was infected, if they show symptoms at a later date, and what might have triggered those symptoms.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Here is a big unknown and a possible giant problem, it's the people who are asymptomatic right now. Being asymptomatic does not mean they are immune. It means they are not being affected currently by the virus. Their immune system is doing well and keeping the virus at bay. Something like getting the flu could be enough to stress the immune system and suddenly it's trying to fight the flu and the coronavirus.

There might be some evidence to support this when looking at how healthcare workers are not fitting in the standard demographic of only the olds are getting sick from this. Stress has a proven impact on the immune system and healthcare workers on the frontlines are extremely stressed and tired from the long hours being worked right now.

That's why mass testing is so important right now. It doesn't just give us the basic who is and who isn't infected, it establishes a timeline of when someone was infected, if they show symptoms at a later date, and what might have triggered those symptoms.
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good points

we are so far behind in testing right now it's disgusting. I saw an epidemiologist on TV a few days ago say that if we were handling this the right way, all Covid patients would be getting a minimum of 3 tests for Covid, and then another 3 antibody tests afterward. The 1st covid test would be to confirm the virus; the 2nd would happen 7-10 days after the patient had no symptoms; and the 3rd test would be 30-45 days after the 2nd test to detect how long the virus resides in the body. Then the antibody tests would be given, the 1st at the same time the 3rd Covid test was taken. Then 3 months later the 2nd antibody test; 6-9 months later the 3rd antibody test. This would develop data on individual immunity

that's a lot of tests considering we've only done 3.8M so far and have over 750,000 positives.
 
magnifier661 said:
I would support it, even knowing I wouldn’t get any checks. Just don’t know if it could pass because of a 6 trillion price tag.
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It wouldnt pass if there's no bailouts for corporations. That's how fucked up this country is.
 
wizenheimer said:
that is just great

Mick Jagger - 76
Keith Richards - 76
Charlie Watts - 78
Ronnie Wood - 72

that Keith Richards is still alive is a medical miracle. I doubt a combo of Covid, Cancer, Cannibals, & Cyanide could kill him
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I'm sure they can come up with a cure all remedy for any illness using Keith Richards blood.
 
wizenheimer said:
good points

we are so far behind in testing right now it's disgusting. I saw an epidemiologist on TV a few days ago say that if we were handling this the right way, all Covid patients would be getting a minimum of 3 tests for Covid, and then another 3 antibody tests afterward. The 1st covid test would be to confirm the virus; the 2nd would happen 7-10 days after the patient had no symptoms; and the 3rd test would be 30-45 days after the 2nd test to detect how long the virus resides in the body. Then the antibody tests would be given, the 1st at the same time the 3rd Covid test was taken. Then 3 months later the 2nd antibody test; 6-9 months later the 3rd antibody test. This would develop data on individual immunity

that's a lot of tests considering we've only done 3.8M so far and have over 750,000 positives.
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Point us to the nearest COVID test producing tree orchard, if you would please.

Where were all these tests for a brand new disease supposed to come from? You think Donald Trump can personally shit out 6 tests for every person with flu like symptoms in a month period? Do you not understand the logistics of supply? Things don’t just appear if you scream about it.
 
jonnyboy said:
Point us to the nearest COVID test producing tree orchard, if you would please.

Where were all these tests for a brand new disease supposed to come from? You think Donald Trump can personally shit out 6 tests for every person with flu like symptoms in a month period? Do you not understand the logistics of supply? Things don’t just appear if you scream about it.
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what the fuck are you jabbering about? LOL...a little too sensitive about any possible dig at the orange buffoon I guess

where was it I blamed trump in that post for testing failures or a lack of tests? It's more than 2 months since we knew that testing was going to be critical and we still aren't anywhere close to where we need to be. We are failing as a nation...there's no doubt about that.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gove...g-delusional-false_n_5e9c83d8c5b635d25d6e769d
 
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