OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (2 Viewers)

[lawai'a]

thank goodness for the centralized response to the crisis. frackin' sounds like a drug deal went down

Maryland governor says coronavirus tests acquired from South Korea under guard at undisclosed location


Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said Thursday that thousands of coronavirus tests obtained by the state from South Korea are currently protected in an undisclosed location by the Maryland National Guard.

Asked in a Washington Post Live interview whether he was concerned the federal government would seize the tests, Hogan acknowledged “it was a little bit of a concern.”

“We spent about 22 days and nights dealing with this whole transaction with Korea. We dealt with the Korean Embassy, folks at the State Department ... and our scientists on both sides trying to, you know, figure out these tests,” Hogan said, adding that he also coordinated with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

“And then at the last moment, I think 24 hours before, we got the sign-off from the FDA and Border and Customs, to try to make sure that we landed this plane safely," he continued.

Hogan said state officials ensured the plane landed at Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport rather than Dulles International Airport in Virginia, noting that it was the first time a Korean Air passenger plane had landed at the airport.

“We landed it there with a large contingent of Maryland National Guard and Maryland State Police, because this was an enormously valuable payload. It was like Fort Knox to us, because it’s going to save the lives of thousands of our citizens,” Hogan continued.

Asked whether the National Guard was continuing to protect the tests from seizure, Hogan responded, “They are.”

“The National Guard and the State Police are both guarding these tests at an undisclosed location. These things are being distributed; they’re helping us distribute the tests," he said.

He also said that the National Guard was assisting the state in various other humanitarian efforts, including supply and personal protective equipment distribution.

Hogan’s decision reflects growing distrust between states seeking to outsource their own medical supplies and federal agencies.

Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) had a purchase of 3 million N95 masks confiscated by an unspecified federal agency at the Port of New York in March just as the state was in the process of acquiring another 1.2 million from China.

Baker ultimately relied on a private jet owned by the New England Patriots to transport the other 1.2 million masks that he purchased from China to Boston.

Two weeks later, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D) arranged for two charter flights to transport millions of masks and gloves from China to Illinois, intentionally keeping the details of the flights secret from the Trump administration to avoid confiscation.

“It is true that the federal government seems to be interrupting supplies that are being sent elsewhere in the nation, and so I wanted to make sure that we received what we ordered,” Pritzker told reporters at an April 15 press conference.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...navirus-tests-acquired-from-south-korea-under

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...health/report-covid-two-more-years/index.html

Expert report predicts up to two more years of pandemic misery

 

[magnifier661]

Hmmm...I read earlier today that the virus was not made made...either Trump or the "experts" are wrong...any bets on which one?

It doesn’t have to be man made to be in that lab. FYI

 

[riverman]

my header when i click on this site reads "Not Secure", so maybe not so hard for them to show up at the right place.

the "deep state" undercover agent in S2 is really bad at maintaining his cover

 

[Chris Craig]

You're going to feel horrible when the Secret Service shows up to the real Calvin Natt's home and arrests him for making threats against the president.

He's not the real Calvin Natt?

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

He's not the real Calvin Natt?

You should ask him for his autograph.

 

[Chris Craig]

My, my, my, aye-aye, whoa!
M-m-m-my Corona

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[magnifier661]

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Course the alternative is you don't order from them at all and they get 0...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Course the alternative is you don't order from them at all and they get 0...

That's not the alternative at all.

You raise consumer awareness and look to order directly from your favorite local restaurant and either pickup from them or see if they offer delivery.

Also many restaurants are asking their state and local officials to enact laws that would limit the amount of fees charged by these companies to 15-20%.

 

[magnifier661]

https://www.abc12.com/content/news/...ote-to-sue-Gov-Whitmer-instead-570085581.html

Republicans don't extend State of Emergency, vote to sue Gov. Whitmer instead

Protesters gather at the State Capitol in Lansing to demonstrate against Michigan's "Stay Home, Stay Safe" order.
By ABC12 News Team |
Posted: Thu 2:54 PM, Apr 30, 2020 |
Updated: Thu 2:58 PM, Apr 30, 2020

Another protest of Michigan's 'Stay Home, Stay Safe' order happening in Lansing

He said lawmakers are hearing from constituents who are out of work and asking for help.

Chatfield said one bill replaces nearly all of Whitmer's orders currently in effect without any loss of critical protections, including protections against price gouging and extensions of tax deadlines.

The bills include provisions for distance learning while schools are closed and a continued ban on large gatherings.

“The idea we want to put an abrupt end to the state of emergency and go back to normal immediately is a lazy political talking point,” said Chatfield. “We all agree Michigan must continue taking strong steps to fight the spread of this disease. But we can both protect the public health and protect the individual people who make up our great state."

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

That's not the alternative at all.

You raise consumer awareness and look to order directly from your favorite local restaurant and either pickup from them or see if they offer delivery.

Also many restaurants are asking their state and local officials to enact laws that would limit the amount of fees charged by these companies to 15-20%.

Almost all of the restaurants Ive ordered from don't offer delivery grubhub / ubereats, doordash is the only way to get delivery. So yeah the alternative is I dont order their food and have something else delivered.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Almost all of the restaurants Ive ordered from don't offer delivery grubhub / ubereats, doordash is the only way to get delivery. So yeah the alternative is I dont order their food and have something else delivered.

McDonald's really isn't a restaurant.

And the 6 kid meals will be fresher if you pick them up yourself.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

That's not the alternative at all.

You raise consumer awareness and look to order directly from your favorite local restaurant and either pickup from them or see if they offer delivery.

Also many restaurants are asking their state and local officials to enact laws that would limit the amount of fees charged by these companies to 15-20%.

Also I see the point about pick up, but if Im going to make the drive over and pick up food, Im way more likely to just make my own food. The idea of delivery is I can get other stuff done and food will be here and I can stop and eat. Pickup is basically useless for me since its not a time saver.
My guess is that any business covered by grub-hub, and the like entered into a contract with those delivery services. If it was so bad for them why didnt they just say no and have their own delivery services?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

McDonald's really isn't a restaurant.

And the 6 kid meals will be fresher if you pick them up yourself.

Fast food just kills me. My dad once in a while will ask me to get him mcdonalds and everytime I try to eat there I pretty much die inside. Fast food gives me some issues where my insides are like what is this stuff. Lol

 

[RR7]

That's not the alternative at all.

You raise consumer awareness and look to order directly from your favorite local restaurant and either pickup from them or see if they offer delivery.

Also many restaurants are asking their state and local officials to enact laws that would limit the amount of fees charged by these companies to 15-20%.

I'm asking honestly, because I've never used a food order service, how does it work exactly? Does the restaurant not set their price, and the delivery tacks on extra? I dunno how to read the little spreadsheet posted, but the big chunk to "promotions" seems like that's also where they're losing money?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I'm asking honestly, because I've never used a food order service, how does it work exactly? Does the restaurant not set their price, and the delivery tacks on extra? I dunno how to read the little spreadsheet posted, but the big chunk to "promotions" seems like that's also where they're losing money?

Promotions are probably like coupon codes and things like that. Unless we use doordash or grub hub our only options for delivery is pizza.
Not sure how it all works but my “guess” is that restuarant without delivery services sign agreements with certain services and the services (because you pay through their websites), take a bunch of the money off the top of the sale before they give it to the restaurant.

 

[riverman]

My wife has learned to use online shopping for pickup of our groceries now...she'll pick up all our supplies without going in the building at a set time in the morning....she added some items this morning she'd forgotten and it was easy. Won't need to shop for at least another month and a half now. My son has been doing that in Eugene for awhile and walked her through it...life is getting even simpler..I've been using laundry lint sheets from my dryer to handle my debit card when out at the gas station, etc....hand the card to the attendant wrapped up and have him throw it away when I get it back...surface of the card never touches a public surface...also stopped wearing my wedding ring....if you wear one you need to wash it for 20 secs everytime you wash your hands or the virus can live between the ring and the finger...watch bands as well although I haven't worn a watch in over a decade

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I'm asking honestly, because I've never used a food order service, how does it work exactly? Does the restaurant not set their price, and the delivery tacks on extra? I dunno how to read the little spreadsheet posted, but the big chunk to "promotions" seems like that's also where they're losing money?

Delivery services offer specials.

Here is one I found quickly.



That $0 delivery fee that Postmates is offering to get you to use their service, Postmates doesn't pay that, they charge that to the restaurant in addition to the regular fees they charge.

There are multiple delivery services out there. Some consumers will order from their favorite place but use different delivery apps just to save the delivery fee.

Everyone thinks they're getting over on the delivery app companies but they're not. It's the restaurant they're ordering from that is paying that delivery fee / promotion

That's why I posted about raising consumer awareness. If you like your local small businesses then try and help them out. Don't app jump, if you can, pick up the food, or even ask which delivery app service they would prefer you to use.

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3062723001

Madonna plans to 'breathe in the COVID-19 air' after testing positive for antibodies

 

[SlyPokerDog]

My wife has learned to use online shopping for pickup of our groceries now...she'll pick up all our supplies without going in the building at a set time in the morning....she added some items this morning she'd forgotten and it was easy. Won't need to shop for at least another month and a half now. My son has been doing that in Eugene for awhile and walked her through it...life is getting even simpler..I've been using laundry lint sheets from my dryer to handle my debit card when out at the gas station, etc....hand the card to the attendant wrapped up and have him throw it away when I get it back...surface of the card never touches a public surface...also stopped wearing my wedding ring....if you wear one you need to wash it for 20 secs everytime you wash your hands or the virus can live between the ring and the finger...watch bands as well although I haven't worn a watch in over a decade

I've been using Costco's free delivery. For small stuff (I mean Costco's version of small things, lol) Just yesterday I had delivered a 12 pack of the Albacore Kirkland canned tuna. It came UPS.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Delivery services offer specials.

Here is one I found quickly.

View attachment 31193

That $0 delivery fee that Postmates is offering to get you to use their service, Postmates doesn't pay that, they charge that to the restaurant in addition to the regular fees they charge.

There are multiple delivery services out there. Some consumers will order from their favorite place but use different delivery apps just to save the delivery fee.

Everyone thinks they're getting over on the delivery app companies but they're not. It's the restaurant they're ordering from that is paying that delivery fee / promotion

That's why I posted about raising consumer awareness. If you like your local small businesses then try and help them out. Don't app jump, if you can, pick up the food, or even ask which delivery app service they would prefer you to use.

I agree with most of that, but I would also note I dont know how all of it works, if the restaurants are signing themselves into “bad deals”, there is only so much blame one can put on the consumer for trying to get a good deal for themselves.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I agree with most of that, but I would also note I dont know how all of it works, if the restaurants are signing themselves into “bad deals”, there is only so much blame one can put on the consumer for trying to get a good deal for themselves.

I'm sure the deal made sense when there wasn't a pandemic and all of their dining room business went up in smoke. "We can increase the delivery portion of your business by 10% if you sign with Delivery App XXX." The vast majority of the deals with the app companies were signed before the shut down.

 

[RR7]

Delivery services offer specials.

Here is one I found quickly.

View attachment 31193

That $0 delivery fee that Postmates is offering to get you to use their service, Postmates doesn't pay that, they charge that to the restaurant in addition to the regular fees they charge.

There are multiple delivery services out there. Some consumers will order from their favorite place but use different delivery apps just to save the delivery fee.

Everyone thinks they're getting over on the delivery app companies but they're not. It's the restaurant they're ordering from that is paying that delivery fee / promotion

That's why I posted about raising consumer awareness. If you like your local small businesses then try and help them out. Don't app jump, if you can, pick up the food, or even ask which delivery app service they would prefer you to use.

Thanks! Am happy I asked. Great information to know, and appreciate the answer. Havent actually ordered out at all yet during this time, but knowing this helps a lot

 

[wizenheimer]

Maryland governor says coronavirus tests acquired from South Korea under guard at undisclosed location


Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said Thursday that thousands of coronavirus tests obtained by the state from South Korea are currently protected in an undisclosed location by the Maryland National Guard.

Asked in a Washington Post Live interview whether he was concerned the federal government would seize the tests, Hogan acknowledged “it was a little bit of a concern.”

“We spent about 22 days and nights dealing with this whole transaction with Korea. We dealt with the Korean Embassy, folks at the State Department ... and our scientists on both sides trying to, you know, figure out these tests,” Hogan said, adding that he also coordinated with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

“And then at the last moment, I think 24 hours before, we got the sign-off from the FDA and Border and Customs, to try to make sure that we landed this plane safely," he continued.

Hogan said state officials ensured the plane landed at Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport rather than Dulles International Airport in Virginia, noting that it was the first time a Korean Air passenger plane had landed at the airport.

“We landed it there with a large contingent of Maryland National Guard and Maryland State Police, because this was an enormously valuable payload. It was like Fort Knox to us, because it’s going to save the lives of thousands of our citizens,” Hogan continued.

Asked whether the National Guard was continuing to protect the tests from seizure, Hogan responded, “They are.”

“The National Guard and the State Police are both guarding these tests at an undisclosed location. These things are being distributed; they’re helping us distribute the tests," he said.

He also said that the National Guard was assisting the state in various other humanitarian efforts, including supply and personal protective equipment distribution.

Hogan’s decision reflects growing distrust between states seeking to outsource their own medical supplies and federal agencies.

Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) had a purchase of 3 million N95 masks confiscated by an unspecified federal agency at the Port of New York in March just as the state was in the process of acquiring another 1.2 million from China.

Baker ultimately relied on a private jet owned by the New England Patriots to transport the other 1.2 million masks that he purchased from China to Boston.

Two weeks later, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D) arranged for two charter flights to transport millions of masks and gloves from China to Illinois, intentionally keeping the details of the flights secret from the Trump administration to avoid confiscation.

“It is true that the federal government seems to be interrupting supplies that are being sent elsewhere in the nation, and so I wanted to make sure that we received what we ordered,” Pritzker told reporters at an April 15 press conference.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...navirus-tests-acquired-from-south-korea-under

I think these kinds of stories are not getting nearly enough attention

trump tells states they are on their own...fend for themselves. But then when states do just that, there have been several instances of the Feds stealing supplies the states have found on the open market.

where are those supplies going?

 

[magnifier661]

Delivery services offer specials.

Here is one I found quickly.

View attachment 31193

That $0 delivery fee that Postmates is offering to get you to use their service, Postmates doesn't pay that, they charge that to the restaurant in addition to the regular fees they charge.

There are multiple delivery services out there. Some consumers will order from their favorite place but use different delivery apps just to save the delivery fee.

Everyone thinks they're getting over on the delivery app companies but they're not. It's the restaurant they're ordering from that is paying that delivery fee / promotion

That's why I posted about raising consumer awareness. If you like your local small businesses then try and help them out. Don't app jump, if you can, pick up the food, or even ask which delivery app service they would prefer you to use.

We have postmates, grub hub, door dash and Uber Eats for our Deli. They charge the restaurants a minimum of 30% off the ticket. I actually hate getting their orders because our margins are lower than what normal restaurants make.

 

[HailBlazers]

We have postmates, grub hub, door dash and Uber Eats for our Deli. They charge the restaurants a minimum of 30% off the ticket. I actually hate getting their orders because our margins are lower than what normal restaurants make.

Good to know. makes me feel better for not using that crap. Curbside take out is the best.

 

[riverman]

Good news for Oregon is that food carts will rule big time....the mall might close but the Oregon Country Fair might be open 7 days a week all year round...parking lots will become the new malls