OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (2 Viewers)

[ABM]

Working safely from home, Rush Limbaugh said Americans have to just get used to Corona virus and find a way to survive, like the Donner Party did.

Donner party as role models.

Do you know anything about the Donner party?

 

[Lanny]

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This photo of Trump proves that he's getting his fill of McDonald's Big Macs and large orders of fries. Looks like he's been throwing down milkshakes with his happy meals.

 

[Lanny]

Do you know anything about the Donner party?

No, but I've heard that they liked each other a lot. What's wrong with that? Besides, aren't they named after dinner parties they had?

 

[Lanny]

Woman Urinates On Floor After Refusing To Leave Verizon Store For Not Wearing Mask

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/07/17/roseville-urination-verizon-arrest/

Aha, more insane people. I noticed a pattern, all of these insane people are not wearing masks. Could there be a connection?

 

[Lanny]

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That Ramses is from a very old movie that I remember watching when I must have been about 8.

 

[Lanny]

Do you realize how much worse this would be if we didn't have our glorius and mighty Trump as President? Why we might have upwards of 500 deaths.

 

[Lanny]

A little trivia for you.
Given 142,000 deaths out of3.65 Million infections that gives us a death rate of 3.9%.
Now, multiply 0.039 X 330 Million residents of the United States X 90% infections to acquire herd immunity and tell me how many dead that will equal. I get about 11 1/2 Million dead. Great job Trump. We're so lucky to have you on the job.

 

[ABM]

No, but I've heard that they liked each other a lot. What's wrong with that? Besides, aren't they named after dinner parties they had?

It was pretty sad what they had to resort to. crandc, apparently doesn't think so,

 

[Lanny]

It was pretty sad what they had to resort to. crandc, apparently doesn't think so,

I didn't glean that from 'CRANDC's' post. I have a thing about referring to people by their correct names.

 

[ABM]

I didn't glean that from 'CRANDC's' post. I have a thing about referring to people by their correct names.

I understand. But you'll bash @SlyPokerDog all day long.......just as I do!

 

[Lanny]

I understand. But you'll bash @SlyPokerDog all day long.......just as I do!

When I'm feeling down and low, I just think of how much fun it is to bash Sly and suddenly the sun comes out and the birds start chirping.

 

[Hoopguru]

When I'm feeling down and low, I just think of how much fun it is to bash Sly and suddenly the sun comes out and the birds start chirping.

What do you do for real fun?

 

[julius]

What do you do for real fun?

He swims in his money bin

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/health/coronavirus-children-schools.amp.html

Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds

The study of nearly 65,000 people in South Korea suggests that school reopenings will trigger more outbreaks.

 

[Hoopguru]

He swims in his money bin

There's different levels of poverty even if he drives a $80K Vulva

 

[Chris Craig]

Woman Urinates On Floor After Refusing To Leave Verizon Store For Not Wearing Mask

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/07/17/roseville-urination-verizon-arrest/

Can you hear me now?

 

[wizenheimer]

here's a 6 minutes video clip of trump being interviewed on Fox. I couldn't stomach watching the whole thing, probably only 2 minutes of it. But those two minutes are crammed full of blatant lies and bullshit



a big lie is him arguing that the US has the "lowest mortality rate" in the world. Fox news, surprisingly actually facts check the piece of shit, but both Fox and trump, unsurprisingly, have minimized the listing of countries, trying to make the US look better. The worldmeter, which IIRC is based upon Johns Hopkins data says the US ranks 206th out of 215 nations

now, there are a lot of tiny nations in there, or places like Greenland, so there may be too much apples/oranges in that list. But if you narrow it down to a somewhat broad inclusion of modernized/industrialized nations for deaths/million:

Taiwan 0.3
Thailand 0.8
Jordan 1
Hong Kong 2
China 3
Uzbekistan 3
Venezuela 4
Malaysia 4
New Zealand 4
Georgia 4
Singapore 5
Australia 5
S. Korea 6
Lebanon 6
Morocco 7
Japan 8
Cuba 8
Costa Rica 11
Palestine 12
Indonesia 15
Nicaragua 15
Latvia 16
Philippines 17
Greece 19
India 20
Kazakhstan 20
Pakistan 25
Algeria 25
Croatia 29
Lithuania 29
Iceland 29
Ukraine 34
UAE 34
Czechia 34
Azerbaijan 35
Albania 39
Egypt 42
Poland 43
Bulgaria 43
Israel 44
Norway 47
Argentina 50
Estonia 52
Belarus 53
Serbia 54
Slovenia 54
Qatar 56
Finland 59
Oman 62
Hungary 62
Turkey 65
Saudi Arabia 71
Bahrain 73
Bosnia and Herzegovina 76
Austria 79
South Africa 83
Russia 85
Iraq 94
Kuwait 95
Romania 105
Denmark 105
Germany 109
Colombia 128
Kyrgyzstan 138
Portugal 166
Iran 169
Luxembourg 177
Bolivia 180
Armenia 216
Switzerland 227
Canada 234
Panama 248
Ecuador 299
Mexico 301
Ireland 355
Netherlands 358
Brazil 371
Peru 394
USA 432
Chile 442
France 462
Sweden 556
Italy 580
Spain 608
UK 667
Belgium 845

I know you could "refine" the list further, but that refining would be bogus propaganda if you started eliminating nations like Mexico, Canada, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, etc., and you'd have to refine like crazy to get the US anywhere near #1, or even anywhere near the top-10. You could also be skeptical about data & reporting from of those nations. But that's also true of the US. Most experts believe we are under-counting deaths at a significant level. And now, with the fucking white house in charge of collecting and releasing stats, it's certain our stats are going to be massaged into a puddle of manure.

and the thing is, the US is catching up to the worst nations. For that bottom-10 or so, here's a snapshot of a 1 week rolling average of new cases, normalized by population:



Brazil is the only nation in out stratosphere, and they appear to be on the downward side of their curve. Not us

so yeah, trump is running around claiming we have the lowest mortality rate in the world and it's a giant blatant lie. But I can't tell how much of the lie is pathological and how much is ignorance

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I'll leave it at this point in the interview for those of you who want a giant laugh:



yep...he's a pathological liar

 

[wizenheimer]

 

[andalusian]

 

[wizenheimer]

* "As coronavirus infections continue to surge nationwide, President Donald Trump repeated his unsubstantiated claim that the pathogen will simply “disappear” one day.

During an interview with “Fox News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace suggested Trump had made a mistake when he stated in January and February that the virus had largely been contained.

On Feb. 10, Trump said the virus would “miraculously” go away by April.

“It’s going to disappear,” the president said later that month. “One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

Meanwhile, his administration’s top public health officials were sounding the alarm about the virus, which they warned would likely have devastating impacts on American lives for months to come.

As of Sunday, the U.S. is leading the world in known coronavirus infections and deaths, with over 3.7 million cases and 140,000 deaths recorded nationwide, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

But Trump stood by his comments during his interview with Wallace.

“I’ll be right eventually,” the president said. “You know, I said, it’s going to disappear. I’ll say it again, it’s going to disappear. And I’ll be right.”

Asked if such a statement, which has been debunked by many scientists, discredits him, Trump said he didn’t think so.

“You know why it doesn’t discredit me? Because I’ve been right probably more than anybody else,” Trump said." *

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-coronavirus-disappear-fauci_n_5f145992c5b6cec246c3c713
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yep....he's the Mad Magazine president

 

[wizenheimer]

holy shit....that is really harsh, and pretty much true

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Too bad the Lincoln Project is run by former Bush administration officials

 

[julius]

I like how he said "they said it would go away with the heat"....no, you dumbfuck, YOU said it.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Too bad the Lincoln Project is run by former Bush administration officials

And why does that matter? Good to see some Republicans come to their senses......

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

And why does that matter? Good to see some Republicans come to their senses......

Yeah with their help maybe we can go back to the sensible Republicans of 2000-2008

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yeah with their help maybe we can go back to the sensible Republicans of 2000-2008

If Trump is re-elected there won't be anything left to go back to.

 

[wizenheimer]

The NY Times has a really devastating analysis of what went wrong in the white house over the last 5 months

many in the white house, led by trump really didn't give a shit about Covid deaths or the personal devastation left behind. They cared about perceptions and trump's re-election, and how to "get the economy back"

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and Dr Birx really gets hammered here for her major responsibility in rosy scenarios and missing, by large margins, on her predictive models. The contract between Fauci and Birx is massive and of course, we know which one trump and his like-minded minions believed

* "Dr. Birx’s belief that the United States would mirror Italy turned out to be disastrously wrong. The Italians had been almost entirely compliant with stay-at-home orders and social distancing, squelching new infections to negligible levels before the country slowly reopened. Americans, by contrast, began backing away by late April from what social distancing efforts they had been making, egged on by Mr. Trump.

The difference was critical. As communities across the United States raced to reopen, the daily number of daily cases barely dropped below 20,000 in early May. The virus was still circulating across the country.

Italy’s recovery curve, it turned out, looked nothing like the American one." *

She was right there as trump pushed hard, day after day, to relax guideline and re-open the economy. Her models didn't account for that
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* "During a briefing on April 20, Mr. Trump mocked Gov. Larry Hogan of Maryland, a fellow Republican, for the state’s inability to find enough testing. Dr. Birx displayed maps with dozens of dots indicating labs that could help.

“He really didn’t know about the federal laboratories,” Mr. Trump told reporters with mock astonishment. “He didn’t know about it.”

But when Frances B. Phillips, the state’s deputy health secretary, reached out to one of those dots — a National Institutes of Health facility in Maryland — she was told that they were suffering from the same shortages as state labs and were not in a position to help.

“It was clear that we were on our own and we need to develop our own strategy, which is very unlike the kind of federal response in the past public health emergencies,” Ms. Phillips recalled." *

she was participating in the lie that states had adequate support and supplies
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* "Other nations had moved aggressively to employ an array of techniques that Mr. Trump never mobilized on a federal level, including national testing strategies and contact tracing to track down and isolate people who had interacted with newly diagnosed patients.

“These things were done in Germany, in Italy, in Greece, Vietnam, in Singapore, in New Zealand and in China,” said Andy Slavitt, a former federal health care official who had been advising the White House.

“They were not secret,” he said. “Not mysterious. And these were not all wealthy countries. They just took accountability for getting it done. But we did not do that here. There was zero chance here that we would ever have been in a situation where we would be dealing with ‘embers.’ ” *
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* " Mr. Trump’s disdain for testing continues to affect the country. By the middle of June, lines stretched for blocks in Phoenix and in Austin, Texas. And getting results could take a week to 10 days, officials in Texas said — effectively inviting the virus to spread uncontrollably.

Dr. Mandy K. Cohen, the top health official in North Carolina, contacted the Trump administration after a surge in June, asking the government to quickly open 100 new testing sites in her state, in addition to the 13 it was then operating.

“We will keep those 13 open for another month — you are welcome,” Dr. Cohen said, mocking the response she received." *
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-failure-leadership.html

and:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/...tion=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

If Trump is re-elected there won't be anything left to go back to.

If Trump is re-elected, all those old guard republicans will go back to cheering from the sidelines until the next election cycle.

 

[wizenheimer]

Too bad the Lincoln Project is run by former Bush administration officials

"the enemy of my enemy......."

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

"the enemy of my enemy......."

they aren't enemies and none of them are your friends