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If you're at risk then stay the fuck home. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.

everybody is at risk, so then everybody should stay the fuck home

however, if you argue we need to manage risk, then it's all debates about matters of degree and assigning priorities. In other words, it's subjective, but assigning the highest priority to saving lives seems a quality choice

and again: the arc of surge sure seems to be tracking closely, with about a 2 week lag, when kids started to go back to school. Maybe it's just coincidence, but that dovetails with what we have learned about Covid infection rates
 
and in other news yesterday a Chinese doctor released a study that points to 20% of recovered covid patients showing signs of early dementia and sever depression or mental illness....and this is not a long term study...no idea what the long term effects are yet. Several patients have been reinfected with a mutated form of the virus as well....we're not even close to turning the real corner on this yet..they believe it may reoccur every fall like the flu and never be erradicated completely. The mutated forms are less fatal but still can be potentially life altering...for some they cause asthma like symptoms.....we need now to treat it like it's day one....not almost over
 
everybody is at risk, so then everybody should stay the fuck home

however, if you argue we need to manage risk, then it's all debates about matters of degree and assigning priorities. In other words, it's subjective, but assigning the highest priority to saving lives seems a quality choice

and again: the arc of surge sure seems to be tracking closely, with about a 2 week lag, when kids started to go back to school. Maybe it's just coincidence, but that dovetails with what we have learned about Covid infection rates

I meant to say high risk. So I agree it's about managing risk. I don't want the government managing my risk. I can do that on my own. I have several friends who's lives and family's lives are being destroyed by this. I am not a fan.
 
If you're at risk then stay the fuck home. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.

lol...people "staying the fuck home" are part of the reason why the "small businesses" you cited earlier in this thread had to shut down in the first place.

It's not a difficult a difficult concept to comprehend.
 
lol...people "staying the fuck home" are part of the reason why the "small businesses" you cited earlier in this thread had to shut down in the first place.

It's not a difficult a difficult concept to comprehend.

Bullshit.
 
If you're at risk then stay the fuck home. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.
It's very difficult to deal with if you and your family are living in a van and you need to go to work where employees are crowded together and mask wearing is not enforced.
Not everyone is as blessed as you and I.
 
:NOTMARIS:

Please, I've been wearing masks longer than anyone here.
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If you're at risk then stay the fuck home. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.
Every first responder is at risk and they're fucking dying....essential workers can't just stay the fuck home.....in many cases grandparents are providing child care so parents who have to work can do it....my wife does that for our grandson....times are tough...it's not a blanket issue
 
I meant to say high risk. So I agree it's about managing risk. I don't want the government managing my risk. I can do that on my own.

Well, it's just like with anti-vaxxers--the government doesn't force you to do smart things to protect you. It forces you to do smart things to protect other people from you.
 
I don’t know what was crazier. The fact that we did fights tonight in a ballroom of a hotel with 500 people jammed in there and I shit you not, maybe only 20 people wore masks........ or this dude knocked this DeAndre Jordan lookin motherfucker THE FUCK out in only THREE seconds!!!!!!
 
Here's why conservatives and liberals differ on COVID-19
New Lehigh University College of Business study looks at getting everyone to agree on the pandemic threat

Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, political ideology has been perhaps the strongest predictor of consumers' perceptions of the coronavirus' threat. According to a new study from Lehigh University's College of Business, the differences between conservative and liberal responses to COVID-19 are mitigated when people perceive the virus itself to have agency -- the ability to control its own actions and thus exert power over people.

Conservatives are generally more sensitive to threats that are relatively high in agency, propose Daniel Zane, assistant professor of marketing in Lehigh University's College of Business, and co-author Luke Nowlan, assistant professor of marketing at KU Leuven, Belgium, in their study.

"In the context of the pandemic, you have these players -- the policymakers, the American public, media organizations, your neighbors - that, at least relative to the unobservable virus, have more agency," says Zane, "whereas this virus has less agency."

According to the paper, "Getting Conservatives and Liberals to Agree on the COVID-19 Threat," published in the Journal of the Association for Consumer Research in September, conservatives tend to see free will as the primary driver of outcomes in life, whereas liberals are more accepting of the idea that randomness plays a role. Compared to liberals, conservatives tend to attribute outcomes to purposeful actions. So in the context of the pandemic, they're more likely to blame any negative outcomes in their lives on these more agentic policymakers or fellow Americans rather than the virus itself.

"According to our study, conservatives might at least in part be less likely to wear masks because they don't feel as threatened by the virus itself," says Zane. "Any hardships that they're facing in their lives around health, financial issues, even going to movie theaters or shopping malls, might not necessarily trace back to the virus for them. So, they feel like they don't have to protect themselves from it."

To get greater buy-in about safety measures like wearing masks and economic shutdowns, Zane says that at the beginning of the pandemic, and even still now, instead of throwing around statistics, policymakers and health officials should have started talking about the virus in terms that gave it more agency.

"If they talked about the virus as having a motive, as being a palpable enemy that is seeking to attack humans," says Zane, "maybe you get greater buy-in from the start on the part of conservatives. We also show in our research that liberals are not driven away by doing this, so it seems like a good move."

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-11/lu-hwc111320.php
 

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