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SlyPokerDog said:
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https://abc30.com/california-ca-restuarant-ban-restaurant-coronavirus/9950322/

But two days after California instituted a ban on outdoor dining, the state's health secretary admitted the decision was not based on data. Dr. Mark Ghaly said it was designed to discourage gathering.

Infectious disease specialist Monica Gandhi, M.D., compares the ban to abstinence-only campaigns.
She says human nature takes over and instead of directing people towards safer behavior and harm reduction, the ban will push them towards riskier activity.

"The concern about not doing harm reduction is that it can drive people inside," Dr. Gandhi said. "Maybe especially over the holidays, the people desperately wanted to be together - not because they don't believe in COVID, but because that's a natural human emotion."

There's no way to measure the exact effect of the ban on new cases, but Dr. Gandhi says there is data showing the ban isn't working.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html

Surge of Student Suicides Pushes Las Vegas Schools to Reopen

Firmly linking teen suicides to school closings is difficult, but rising mental health emergencies and suicide rates point to the toll the pandemic lockdown is taking.

The reminders of pandemic-driven suffering among students in Clark County, Nev., have come in droves.

Since schools shut their doors in March, an early-warning system that monitors students’ mental health episodes has sent more than 3,100 alerts to district officials, raising alarms about suicidal thoughts, possible self-harm or cries for care. By December, 18 students had taken their own lives.

The spate of student suicides in and around Las Vegas has pushed the Clark County district, the nation’s fifth largest, toward bringing students back as quickly as possible. This month, the school board gave the green light to phase in the return of some elementary school grades and groups of struggling students even as greater Las Vegas continues to post huge numbers of coronavirus cases and deaths.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
They said 15% ICU capacity. And they are still 0% in much of Southern California
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It was at less than 1% two weeks ago.

I agree, though, just because things are improving in California, this isn't the time to open things up.
 
Minstrel said:
It was at less than 1% two weeks ago.

I agree, though, just because things are improving in California, this isn't the time to open things up.
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Wow, they are opening outdoor dining in LA County as well. I'm really surprised they are allowing that, as well as small private gatherings up to 15 people, right before the superbowl.

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Wow, they are opening outdoor dining in LA County as well. I'm really surprised they are allowing that, as well as small private gatherings up to 15 people, right before the superbowl.

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Yeah, I don't agree with doing this. Apparently, open ICU beds are at 23% statewide and policy is that limited opening up can happen if it's above 15%.
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, I don't agree with doing this. Apparently, open ICU beds are at 23% statewide and policy is that limited opening up can happen if it's above 15%.
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And the 15% shouldn't be a snapshot, it should be a sustained trend. They are basing this on projections a month from now, but they won't let you see the projections or how they came up with it, because "normal people wouldn't understand the math".
 
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