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LegendTesla85 said:
It doesn’t exist. But the left wing tyrannical marxist will believe that every PCR test is taken to the lab lol. None of these people have the logic or critical thinking to understand or asked how the FLU has disappeared. Its too much logic to ask
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It's called a DNA test. They don't check every test, but a sample from each location and extrapolate the data.

This is not conspiracy stuff.
 
jonnyboy said:
Red states took way less of these overbearing precautions and saw no difference in flu cases. The theory you’re suggesting just doesn’t hold up to very basic logic. There really just isn’t a legitimate explanation coming from the “officials” about why influenza cases were down across the board.
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Nearly half of every state is "liberal". Smart people took precautions which reduced the flu rates significantly in every state.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
It's called a DNA test. They don't check every test, but a sample from each location and extrapolate the data.

This is not conspiracy stuff.
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Nor is it accurate, or even remotely a legitimate way to tabulate real time numbers, which the officials are projecting these numbers as.
 
Phatguysrule said:
It's accurate enough to accurately find trends.
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Then turn those trends into a tabulated, exact number? I don’t think so. That’s extremely dishonest, at best.
Phatguysrule said:
Again, it's accurate enough to find trends and make informed healthcare and policy decisions.
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That’s really just an over generalized blanket statement man, it doesn’t have any tangible or substantive meaning.
 
jonnyboy said:
Then turn those trends into a tabulated, exact number? I don’t think so. That’s extremely dishonest, at best.


That’s really just an over generalized blanket statement man, it doesn’t have any tangible or substantive meaning.
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Bullshit
 
calvin natt said:
But don’t worry - ignore button is on. They can scream away the nonsense and get others into their dumbass games.
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calvin natt said:
Sorry not gonna sit around and watch QAnon worshippers come in here and spew a bunch of bullshit. Fuck them.
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Boo fucking hoo. Good god. He’s the one who can’t make an argument beyond “Trump and Qanon supporters” so he flips over the card table on the way out.
 
@Chris Craig there are 19000 posts in this thread and thousands of them point out facts, data, stats, scientifically proven reasons behind the vaccine and how to address Covid. We’ve gone through it for a long time. Yet none of that matters. And people still want to scream “yeah! So! Prove it! Debate me!” It’s nauseating and pathetic. I have three little kids and I already have to deal with kids all day. Going round and round on the same topic just so a select few dinks can come in and spew utter bullshit…that’s why America is in this mess. Different opinion, cool. Lotta people don’t agree with me on a bunch of topics. Fine. This shit is different. It is killing people. It’s absolutely pathetic.
 
calvin natt said:
@Chris Craig there are 19000 posts in this thread and thousands of them point out facts, data, stats, scientifically proven reasons behind the vaccine and how to address Covid. We’ve gone through it for a long time. Yet none of that matters. And people still want to scream “yeah! So! Prove it! Debate me!” It’s nauseating and pathetic. I have three little kids and I already have to deal with kids all day. Going round and round on the same topic just so a select few dinks can come in and spew utter bullshit…that’s why America is in this mess. Different opinion, cool. Lotta people don’t agree with me on a bunch of topics. Fine. This shit is different. It is killing people. It’s absolutely pathetic.
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I get it. But, people will always want to argue and debate here. That is fine. Sure, there is alot of bullshit. But, we all still have to follow the rules here. No personal insults. You can be passionate and angry about what someone is saying without throwing personal insults.
 
LegendTesla85 said:
But what they fail to understand is that Gene based Vax is NOT traditional vaccines. It was not designed to stop transmissions or reinfection. It was only designed to reduce symptoms. The whole logic of imaginary herd immunity is the most Anti Science statement ever. Because The covid Vax can not reach herd immunity its not designed for that.
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Exactly true.
Because of this, the crusade to get everyone vacced is faulty logic.

People who choose not to to vaccinate are not causing any harm for society.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That's not accurate at all.
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The vaccines do not prevent transmission... That has been a fallacy that has been promulgated.

Directly from the Moderna FDA submission: which can be found here (https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download)

Vaccine effectiveness against transmission of SARS-CoV-2

Data are limited to assess the effect of the vaccine against transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from
individuals who are infected despite vaccination. Demonstrated high efficacy against
symptomatic COVID-19 may translate to overall prevention of transmission in populations with
high enough vaccine uptake, though it is possible that if efficacy against asymptomatic infection
were lower than efficacy against symptomatic infection, asymptomatic cases in combination with
reduced mask-wearing and social distancing could result in significant continued transmission.
Additional evaluations including data from clinical trials and from vaccine use post-authorization
will be needed to assess the effect of the vaccine in preventing virus shedding and
transmission, in particular in individuals with asymptomatic infection.
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It is true that the vaccines help reduce the symptoms of the virus, but the current data coming out indicates that the vaccine may have very little benefit in reducing the transmission.


If the vaccinated people can still transmit the virus around, it can (and will) mutate - which makes it irrelevant if my neighbor or the guy down the street is vaccinated or not.
 
tester551 said:
The vaccines do not prevent transmission... That has been a fallacy that has been promulgated.

Directly from the Moderna FDA submission: which can be found here (https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download)



It is true that the vaccines help reduce the symptoms of the virus, but the current data coming out indicates that the vaccine may have very little benefit in reducing the transmission.


If the vaccinated people can still transmit the virus around, it can (and will) mutate - which makes it irrelevant if my neighbor or the guy down the street is vaccinated or not.
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Serious question, how do you think vaccines work?
 
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