OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (1 Viewer)

[Phatguysrule]

Im thinking someone has never tried going on a diet and has no clue how easy it is to put on 50 lbs but how hard it is to lose it……

And you would be wrong. I've lost 50lbs many times. I wrestled in High School and cut weight every year. If you consume fewer calories than you burn you lose weight.

So long term changes like ending the pandemic and reducing the financial incentive for parents to buy junk food would have the effect of lowering the average BMI of a population.

 

[Orion Bailey]

And you would be wrong. I've lost 50lbs many times. I wrestled in High School and cut weight every year. If you consume fewer calories than you burn you lose weight.

So long term changes like ending the pandemic and reducing the financial incentive for parents to buy junk food would have the effect of lowering the average BMI of a population.

oh boy thats not reality for most. Just do a search most people who struggle with weight loss of any kind regardless of efforts. If it were that easy there wouldnt be all these weight loss programs out there.

 

[Phatguysrule]

how would you make junk food more expensive? With taxation?

Government provides food based on the funding. To say they are fully funded is only relative to the grocery list of which they are purchasing. Healthier foods cost more.
So if they are already fully funded. To increase the health of the food, they would presumably require more funding. Which means more taxes.

which is what i brought up that many people made fun of and mocked.

Here you go.

 

[Phatguysrule]

oh boy thats not reality for most. Just do a search most people who struggle with weight loss of any kind regardless of efforts. If it were that easy there wouldnt be all these weight loss programs out there.

It's literally that "easy". But to maintain it, you have to change your lifestyle. That's the hard part.

 

[Phatguysrule]

how would you make junk food more expensive?

By removing the subsidies on anything that contributes to making junk food. Don't pay government money to companies who make junk food like we currently do. On average about $700,000 of tax money is paid to each junk food manufacturer. This allows them to sell their junk food at lower prices.

We are literally paying them to make our kids fat.

 

[Orion Bailey]

By removing the subsidies on anything that contributes to making junk food. Don't pay government money to companies who make junk food like we currently do. On average about $700,000 of tax money is paid to each junk food manufacturer. This allows them to sell their junk food at lower prices.

We are literally paying them to make our kids fat.

do you think those companies will eat that cost or pass it on to the consumer?

 

[Phatguysrule]

do you think those companies will eat that cost or pass it on to the consumer?

They will pass it on to the customer. That's the point.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Orion Bailey]

They will pass it on to the customer. That's the point.

hhhmm so when i was bringing up ways to try to improve healthy eating and mentioned taxation im curious why this wasnt the response then, instead of what i received?

no need to answer…..i have a fairly good idea why…

 

[Phatguysrule]

hhhmm so when i was bringing up ways to try to improve healthy eating and mentioned taxation im curious why this wasnt the response then, instead of what i received?

no need to answer…..i have a fairly good idea why…

It was the response then... That's what I suggested.

 

[crandc]

Im thinking someone has never tried going on a diet and has no clue how easy it is to put on 50 lbs but how hard it is to lose it……

I am painfully aware. I also know if you don't start healthy eating and exercise the weight will never come off.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If you switch your scale from pounds to kilograms you'll weigh less.

 

[andalusian]

If you switch your scale from pounds to kilograms you'll weigh less.

I am pretty much anorexic in tons.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I am pretty much anorexic in tons.

I'm still a kid in dog years!

 

[andalusian]

I'm still a kid in dog years!

This conversation reminds me of a great Terry Pratchett quote - when he described Commander Vime's wife running:

"Lady Ramkin's bosom rose and fell like an empire"

 

[Orion Bailey]

It was the response then... That's what I suggested.

Oh thats right. You just approved the insults.
Heartless, idiotic, etc…

 

[Orion Bailey]

I am painfully aware. I also know if you don't start healthy eating and exercise the weight will never come off.

absolutely. Unfortunately its the American way to make things as easy as possible instead just grind out the hard work.
Though this country was founded on hard work, among other things, it has all but disappeared.
When i did physical labor for a living, excavation and digging ditches, i used to love getting paid to work out and worked as hard as i could while most around me did as little as possible to get through the day.
It was frustrating and gratifying simultaneously.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Oh thats right. You just approved the insults.
Heartless, idiotic, etc…

Really? I was unaware that an adjective approval process existed in this forum.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

absolutely. Unfortunately its the American way to make things as easy as possible instead just grind out the hard work.
Though this country was founded on hard work, among other things, it has all but disappeared.
When i did physical labor for a living, excavation and digging ditches, i used to love getting paid to work out and worked as hard as i could while most around me did as little as possible to get through the day.
It was frustrating and gratifying simultaneously.

Actually compared to other industrialized nations Americans work longer hours, take fewer vacations, and get fewer benefits like maternity leave and sick time.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Actually compared to other industrialized nations Americans work longer hours, take fewer vacations, and get fewer benefits like maternity leave and sick time.

Working longer doesnt equate to working harder.
Would it be we work longer because we get less done per hour?

 

[ABM]

I've had Covid, 2 vaccine shots, and now a flu shot. Call me bona fide, baby!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Working longer doesnt equate to working harder.
Would it be we work longer because we get less done per hour?

 

[Orion Bailey]

View attachment 40898

first thats a dollar value. Costs of goods go up, so im pretty sure that graph is skewed. Plus it does not show other countries as a comparison.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

first thats a dollar value. Costs of goods go up, so im pretty sure that graph is skewed. Plus it does not show other countries as a comparison.

https://www.epi.org/publication/ib348-trends-us-work-hours-wages-1979-2007/
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/speedup-americans-working-harder-charts/

 

[Phatguysrule]

first thats a dollar value. Costs of goods go up, so im pretty sure that graph is skewed. Plus it does not show other countries as a comparison.

That is adjusted to account for inflation, so no. It's showing numbers based on the year 2000.

 

[barfo]

first thats a dollar value. Costs of goods go up, so im pretty sure that graph is skewed.

It says right on it that it is in 2000 dollars. That means they adjusted for inflation.

barfo

 

[calvin natt]

Many use the Church as a place to meet clients. I know a landscaper who was struggling. Started attending church that a lot of well off people attend.

He now has something like 30 employees and takes a lot of vacations.

Very Christ-like - meet with potential new clients and grow your business!

 

[calvin natt]

I really don't believe it's that high at all. My parents are religious and are extremely kind and caring people. They're also vaccinated.

Ok then they fall outside the 80%, great!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Whats our output compared to other countries?

i admit my memory is dated. I haven't dug ditches in 20 years, so maybe things have changed. But when i worked physical labor it was the theme to do as little as possible and collect the check. It was openly talked about amongst coworkers. In more than one state.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It says right on it that it is in 2000 dollars. That means they adjusted for inflation.

barfo

my fault. Missed that part. Had to zoom in on my phone and scroll around and rolled right over it i guess.