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Phatguysrule said:
So again, your links don't support causation. Crime rates were climbing before the time frame your links addressed, and there were extenuating circumstances during the time frame your links addressed.

So it's very far from conclusive. It's too bad you have your mind made up in spite of the evidence...

I guess we can thank Trump for making that seem like an acceptable course of action.
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blah blah blah….

what you dont get is communication. No one wants to listen to a demeaning know it all. Regardless. But you keep thinking you know everything and belittle anyone who doesn't think the way you want them to.
You live here day and night and have to quote and comment on anything and everything as if your the gospel of the forum.

I told you i wasn't interested in debating and you cant just move on. You haven't refuted anything i have said that i have witnessed, aNd frankly i don't care. You just want to fight. You sift from thread to thread looking for anything you can disagree with so you can assert your “intellectual supremacy”.
Sometimes there doesn't have to be evidence to have common sense.
Did the bear shit in the woods? Wheres your proof?
Did the tree make a sound when it fell in the woods? Wheres your proof?

You haven't said shit about my comments of more and more people speeding and no cops on the roads.
direct causation.

homicides up 800%. You don't think some of that is because they know there isn’t a quick response time anymore?

You think everyone has to provide some study, report or numerical graph to prove a point when maybe the studies and numbers aren't yet accessible and quantifiable.

some of us live in the real world and not the internet world.

you can keep on arguing if you want. You can belittle all you want. I made my statements and i live by them and i really don't give a shit what you think about them or me.

Lastly, you should blame yourself. Not trump. Learn a better mode of communication and you might get ears to remain open longer. Until then, your deflection of your own behavior onto trump is just the typical icing on the cake and cracks me the fuck up!
Hahahaha

Now. Cue the im this im that im the problem… blah blah blahjjhhjjjjhhhhhhhhh. Lol
 
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Orion Bailey said:
blah blah blah….

what you dont get is communication. No one wants to listen to a demeaning know it all. Regardless. But you keep thinking you know everything and belittle anyone who doesn't think the way you want them to.
You live here day and night and have to quote and comment on anything and everything as if your the gospel of the forum.

I told you i wasn't interested in debating and you cant just move on. You haven't refuted anything i have said that i have witnessed, aNd frankly i don't care. You just want to fight. You sift from thread to thread looking for anything you can disagree with so you can assert your “intellectual supremacy”.
Sometimes there doesn't have to be evidence to have common sense.
Did the bear shit in the woods? Wheres your proof?
Did the tree make a sound when it fell in the woods? Wheres your proof?

You haven't said shit about my comments of more and more people speeding and no cops on the roads.
direct causation.

homicides up 800%. You don't think some of that is because they know there isn’t a quick response time anymore?

You think everyone has to provide some study, report or numerical graph to prove a point when maybe the studies and numbers aren't yet accessible and quantifiable.

some of us live in the real world and not the internet world.

you can keep on arguing if you want. You can belittle all you want. I made my statements and i live by them and i really don't give a shit what you think about them or me.

Lastly, you should blame yourself. Not trump. Learn a better mode of communication and you might get ears to remain open longer. Until then, your deflection of your own behavior onto trump is just the typical icing on the cake and cracks me the fuck up!
Hahahaha

Now. Cue the im this im that im the problem… blah blah blahjjhhjjjjhhhhhhhhh. Lol
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Orion Bailey said:
Why?

you will just add spin and deny it. I mean this is widespread common knowledge. Been in the news forever. Just open some of the links i posted regarding rising crime.

you are really gonna try to debate that many of portlands police force had many retire amid being treated like criminals over the last 18 months? Are you really gonna demy the increase in crime over the last 18 months?
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I didn't see a link in this little sub thread and I'm not about to go through over 1,000 posts to find what you said on the subject in all those posts.
 
Orion Bailey said:
ive posted yet two more links….. did you even see me say i posted links in the post you just quoted? Or you just quoting me to argue instead of get your answers?
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Your sources were not credible.
 
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As I said, the privileged live to wrap themselves in symbols of oppression.

We can snicker about the people who rage against vaccines and die of Covid. But although completely wrong they are at least consistent.

Fox has a very strict vaccine mandate. All their talking heads are vaccinated but spend their screen time screaming about the evil vaccine. Tucker Carlson, along with promoting white supremacy, now hosts people who left their jobs rather than be vaccinated, praising them because freedumb. His children attend upscale private school with mask and vaccine requirements.

Only the little people should die.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Katu and kgw not credible?

Your previous post said you couldnt kind the links.
Stop being a bandwagon jumper Lanny.

Whatevs…
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Why do you ask? Seems like you're jumping to a conclusion.
No, I wasn't referring to those.
Now, what is the basis for calling me a bandwagon jumper?
Two examples are:
1. https://www.police1.com/police-recr...e-officers-amid-crime-spike-2YiPaS5YEk0gVBM1/
2. Oregonlive
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Bullshit
 
Lanny said:
Why do you ask? Seems like you're jumping to a conclusion.
No, I wasn't referring to those.
Now, what is the basis for calling me a bandwagon jumper?
Two examples are:
1. https://www.police1.com/police-recr...e-officers-amid-crime-spike-2YiPaS5YEk0gVBM1/
2. Oregonlive

Bullshit
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i dont know what you are referring to.

Bandwagon jumping im refering to is a thing like some others who wont comment on anything they can't refute and only pick and choose the things they think they can.

Selective dismissal may be a better term.

Anyhow you didn't even refer to a specific post or link. Just dismissed it.

then there is the time you said you posted video showing a whipping. I asked you where because i couldn't find it. You dismissed it.

Im not looking to argue. Just hoping you are not treading down the same path as some others who have selective arguing tactics.

Anyhow, like others tell me. If its not credible or not accurate, disprove it.
 
Orion Bailey said:
i dont know what you are referring to.

Bandwagon jumping im refering to is a thing like some others who wont comment on anything they can't refute and only pick and choose the things they think they can.

Selective dismissal may be a better term.

Anyhow you didn't even refer to a specific post or link. Just dismissed it.

then there is the time you said you posted video showing a whipping. I asked you where because i couldn't find it. You dismissed it.

Im not looking to argue. Just hoping you are not treading down the same path as some others who have selective arguing tactics.

Anyhow, like others tell me. If its not credible or not accurate, disprove it.
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Have you seen the number of pages of posts in here? It's over a thousand. I went through about five or six pages of posts looking for your posts that I've seen previously on the subjects and couldn't find them. I have since made a more exhaustive search and found some which I mentioned in another thread on a similar topic.
I showed a video of the whipping and posted a link to the PBS News Hour where Judy Woodruff mentioned the whippings. Others have linked videos showing the whippings. You've got to read the links in a thread if you're going to comment on it.
I don't have to prove credibility you have to establish it in your assertion unless it's common knowledge.
Assertions should not be refuted, unless it's common knowledge that they are false, but they can be challenged.
 
bigbailes said:
Honestly curious, why don't you view OregonLive as a credible source? The linked post from above is from OregonLive yet this is the 2nd time you claim the main newspaper in the state isn't credible. Do you have a reason for not trusting them more than say KGW/KATU/KOIN?
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Oregon Live is also a collection of forums, that I am intimately aware of, that contain nut cases.
 
Lanny said:
Have you seen the number of pages of posts in here? It's over a thousand. I went through about five or six pages of posts looking for your posts that I've seen previously on the subjects and couldn't find them. I have since made a more exhaustive search and found some which I mentioned in another thread on a similar topic.
I showed a video of the whipping and posted a link to the PBS News Hour where Judy Woodruff mentioned the whippings. Others have linked videos showing the whippings. You've got to read the links in a thread if you're going to comment on it.
I don't have to prove credibility you have to establish it in your assertion unless it's common knowledge.
Assertions should not be refuted, unless it's common knowledge that they are false, but they can be challenged.
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Lanny are you serious??????

many many of us pointed out there was no video of any whipping. You did not post a video of a whipping. You posted a report of a report of whipping. No actual whipping video. This was pointed out to you several times by several people.
i dont know what else to tell you when you Re telling me to watch the links and posts you are clearly not watching or reading yourself….

i quoted you and so did some others so no searching required. Go to your alerts and they will take you right to those posts.

:dunno:
 
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