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If only that were effective protection...

Well, I was being a bit facetious, but this latest outbreak is affecting the entire nation. Interestingly, more people are moving to Florida then most other states. There's even talk that DeSantis is considering constructing a mini statue of liberty out in the Gulf of Mexico somewhere.
 
Well, I was being a bit facetious, but this latest outbreak is affecting the entire nation. Interestingly, more people are moving to Florida then most other states. There's even talk that DeSantis is considering constructing a mini statue of liberty out in the Gulf of Mexico somewhere.
We've looked at the numbers. Tricking people to go where they are more likely to die is not generally considered a good thing.

And those places spread it to the rest of the world.

But it's not like our leaders have done the work to end this thing. We could have paid people $1k per shot and we'd be getting a lot more people vaccinated.

We could have helped every country manufacture vaccine.

There is so much more that should have been done.
 
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Kelly Ernvy was a Republican deputy district attorney planning a run for state legislature. Antivax and anti mask, she declared nothing more important than freedom.
She was. She died of Covid at age 46. Free to get sick and die.
 
They've been spot on for me... And if not, there is absolutely no excuse not to have a reliable test by now.

*to clarify, we've taken the at home tests in my house 3-4 times each. That's 5 people. They've been negative every time, and none of us have had covid yet.*
This seems like the anecdotal information you continually say we shouldn't use to make assumptions. This isn't intended to be a gotcha post or anything, but there has to be some actual data coming in about the tests in regard to the omicron variant. I've heard of a few false negatives over the past couple weeks and was skeptical enough that I went and got a PCR test when I had been exposed.
 
What? Even the highest vaccinated populations are raging...
Yes, highly vaccinated are getting breakthrough infections. But for the millionth time, they usually have mild or no symptoms. The people crowding hospitals and dying are almost entirely unvaccinated. It's not a difficult concept, unless you prefer Dr. Facebook.
 
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Well, I wasn't starting from getting vaccinated = giving up freedom. I was talking about Orwell's society, but let's see. Is forcing someone to be vaccinated against his will an act of taking away his freedom?
Imagine dr fauci says that you need to get a heroin shot. It is a law. You don't want it. But it is a law. Most people around take it. You are not sure about it. But they force you. What you do?
There is Nuremberg Code to protect you from this kind of stuff.
WOW! PLEASE don't take this the wrong way, but I really hope you don't have offspring that you are passing this outlook on the current situation on to. Bro..... you REALLY believe what you just typed.
You guys, this is the type of mentality that will keep us from ever returning to "normal" life. HOLY SHIT!
 
What a mental case!
Really. He has every right to holler like that if an unmasked person is close to him obviously trying to fuck with him. Last week in our neighborhood Starbucks, I'm at a corner table when some angry guy walked in without a mask. Barista respectfully asked them if they had a mask and if nit they had one for him. He started screaming and yelling something about his rights and Fuck Kate Brown or something! Right there in front of customers and kids! I let him get about 5 words out and stood up and yelled with my deepest angriest tone I've used in years at him! "NOT HERE! WE DO'T DO THAT HERE! GET THE HELL OUT! IF YOU NEED HELP I'M HERE FOR YOU!

Freaked him out. he turned and basically ran out of the store! It was hilarious. The baristas thanked me and so did a few customers. I scared the shit out of some other customers more than the guy yelling did, so I don't think they were too happy. Got a free coffee out of it!

I will not tolerate any bullshit, if I see it.
 
What? Even the highest vaccinated populations are raging...
You know that it's unvaccinated people that are dying now from this right. They are the ones jamming up the emergency rooms right? Vaccinated bolstered people are getting it....BUT ARE NOT DYING OR EVEN HAVING SYMPTOMS. You know this right?

Please tell me you know this.
 
Really. He has every right to holler like that if an unmasked person is close to him obviously trying to fuck with him. Last week in our neighborhood Starbucks, I'm at a corner table when some angry guy walked in without a mask. Barista respectfully asked them if they had a mask and if nit they had one for him. He started screaming and yelling something about his rights and Fuck Kate Brown or something! Right there in front of customers and kids! I let him get about 5 words out and stood up and yelled with my deepest angriest tone I've used in years at him! "NOT HERE! WE DO'T DO THAT HERE! GET THE HELL OUT! IF YOU NEED HELP I'M HERE FOR YOU!

Freaked him out. he turned and basically ran out of the store! It was hilarious. The baristas thanked me and so did a few customers. I scared the shit out of some other customers more than the guy yelling did, so I don't think they were too happy. Got a free coffee out of it!

I will not tolerate any bullshit, if I see it.
you did the right think, I too dont like it when Im somewhere that requires mask and someone doesnt have one on. My comment was towards how he flipped out and trashed the person. He could have communicated more effectively, it seems.
The guy has a right to get pissed but not go all mental.
At the gym I go to I talked with a guy that took his mask off and asked if he wouldn't mind mind putting it back on as I was going to use the bike next to him. He did.
 
Really. He has every right to holler like that if an unmasked person is close to him obviously trying to fuck with him. Last week in our neighborhood Starbucks, I'm at a corner table when some angry guy walked in without a mask. Barista respectfully asked them if they had a mask and if nit they had one for him. He started screaming and yelling something about his rights and Fuck Kate Brown or something! Right there in front of customers and kids! I let him get about 5 words out and stood up and yelled with my deepest angriest tone I've used in years at him! "NOT HERE! WE DO'T DO THAT HERE! GET THE HELL OUT! IF YOU NEED HELP I'M HERE FOR YOU!

Freaked him out. he turned and basically ran out of the store! It was hilarious. The baristas thanked me and so did a few customers. I scared the shit out of some other customers more than the guy yelling did, so I don't think they were too happy. Got a free coffee out of it!

I will not tolerate any bullshit, if I see it.

Just like Antonio Brown Sunday went mental. Lot a crazy people out there just chomping at the bit to get into it with some one.
 
WOW! PLEASE don't take this the wrong way, but I really hope you don't have offspring that you are passing this outlook on the current situation on to. Bro..... you REALLY believe what you just typed.
You guys, this is the type of mentality that will keep us from ever returning to "normal" life. HOLY SHIT!

I don't think you understood what I was saying. Honest question. You read books?

And I wonder why you are so angry about it.
Give me one good reason to force me to take it. I am good. I am healthy. I'm not in risk group. Why you need me so much to take it?
 
Really. He has every right to holler like that if an unmasked person is close to him obviously trying to fuck with him. Last week in our neighborhood Starbucks, I'm at a corner table when some angry guy walked in without a mask. Barista respectfully asked them if they had a mask and if nit they had one for him. He started screaming and yelling something about his rights and Fuck Kate Brown or something! Right there in front of customers and kids! I let him get about 5 words out and stood up and yelled with my deepest angriest tone I've used in years at him! "NOT HERE! WE DO'T DO THAT HERE! GET THE HELL OUT! IF YOU NEED HELP I'M HERE FOR YOU!

Freaked him out. he turned and basically ran out of the store! It was hilarious. The baristas thanked me and so did a few customers. I scared the shit out of some other customers more than the guy yelling did, so I don't think they were too happy. Got a free coffee out of it!

I will not tolerate any bullshit, if I see it.

Well done. Just be careful, with more and more conservative whack jobs carrying weapons small tiffs like that can go bad fast.
 
CDC and White House Caves to Big Business, Shorten Quarantine Period.



Delta's CEO and big business pressured the CDC to revise the quarantine rules.

Democrats are not listening to science either...
 
I don't think you understood what I was saying. Honest question. You read books?

And I wonder why you are so angry about it.
Give me one good reason to force me to take it. I am good. I am healthy. I'm not in risk group. Why you need me so much to take it?
public safety is a good reason for you to volunteer to take it...nobody will or has forced you too but limitations come with that choice to protect others......Orwell's novel has nothing to do with a global air borne pandemic...it's a common sense thing to do like controlling the spread of any virus. It works....I'm living proof of that and it hasn't given me any ill effects nor any of my family members or doctors.....it would be gone already if more people had taken steps when the Delta wave hit....now you can choose to be a carrier of a deadly virus and gamble with your own life but don't get near my grandchildren please while you take this totally unnecessary risk .Good luck...I think you've made a very wrong choice but you sure are free to make it. I'd venture to guess that if you contracted Syphillis from unprotected sex....you'd be the first in line to get a shot ....not thinking you're healthy and can survive it. If you're unvaccinated and haven't survived a covid infection already, then there's a good chance it can kill you.
 
I don't think you understood what I was saying. Honest question. You read books?

And I wonder why you are so angry about it.
Give me one good reason to force me to take it. I am good. I am healthy. I'm not in risk group. Why you need me so much to take it?
Even if English is your second language, asking someone if they read books while writing like a five year old looks kind of silly.
 
public safety is a good reason for you to volunteer to take it...nobody will or has forced you too but limitations come with that choice to protect others......Orwell's novel has nothing to do with a global air borne pandemic...it's a common sense thing to do like controlling the spread of any virus. It works....I'm living proof of that and it hasn't given me any ill effects nor any of my family members or doctors.....it would be gone already if more people had taken steps when the Delta wave hit....now you can choose to be a carrier of a deadly virus and gamble with your own life but don't get near my grandchildren please while you take this totally unnecessary risk .Good luck...I think you've made a very wrong choice but you sure are free to make it. I'd venture to guess that if you contracted Syphillis from unprotected sex....you'd be the first in line to get a shot ....not thinking you're healthy and can survive it. If you're unvaccinated and haven't survived a covid infection already, then there's a good chance it can kill you.

I wasn't refering to 84, but generally to books, cos there are comparisons in them.
They are there, so you can compare things to bold them.

And about public safety.
Vaccinated people still carry the virus.
If you are asymptomatic, you might as well be more dangerous to those around you, cos you don't know you have it and spread it.
I, if I have any cold symptoms, avoid contact and am vary careful with people, especially with elders.

If your thesis about "it would be gone" is right, why it is spreading like devil in 80% vacc coutries.
Why it does not kill people in poorly vaccinated Africa?

I don't see logic here and it keeps me sceptical.
 
I wasn't refering to 84, but generally to books, cos there are comparisons in them.
They are there, so you can compare things to bold them.

And about public safety.
Vaccinated people still carry the virus.
If you are asymptomatic, you might as well be more dangerous to those around you, cos you don't know you have it and spread it.
I, if I have any cold symptoms, avoid contact and am vary careful with people, especially with elders.

If your thesis about "it would be gone" is right, why it is spreading like devil in 80% vacc coutries.
Why it does not kill people in poorly vaccinated Africa?

I don't see logic here and it keeps me sceptical.
we didn't achieve herd immunity globally when we needed to so new variants developed as they knew would happen....this virus should have been over in 18 months if vaccinations had been available all over the planet and people took them . millions have died unnecessarily because of stubborn resistance to a problem that they helped make worse....sure airborne virus can live and be carried by any host..that's always been the case...it could travel on your groceries.....we had a chance to kill it early but now, it's too late ..A good friend of mine has been doing research at a medical lab in Taiwan since the first outbreak in Wuhan and she's more knowledgeable than any other person I know....she'll tell you you need to get vaccinated and in her country they had to wait to develop their own because we weren't sending our overflow overseas. Now they have their own. As I said....good luck but in my opinion...you've chosen poorly so far.Good luck also finding any doctor or nurse who'll agree with you about how you're handling this.
 
Vaccinated people still carry the virus.

Yes, but they are less likely to than the unvaxxed. It's statistics that matter in a pandemic.

If you are asymptomatic, you might as well be more dangerous to those around you, cos you don't know you have it and spread it.

Yes. That's why masking and social distancing are also important measures.

I, if I have any cold symptoms, avoid contact and am vary careful with people, especially with elders.

That's good, but as you mention, you could be an asymptomatic spreader.

If your thesis about "it would be gone" is right, why it is spreading like devil in 80% vacc coutries.

Because it mutated before we stopped it. To be fair, I don't think we could have avoided that, because enough vaccines weren't distributed in time worldwide.

Why it does not kill people in poorly vaccinated Africa?

230,000 deaths is not nothing.

barfo
 
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