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Phatguysrule said:
Lol. You just listed a bunch of states with low populations. They were never going to impact overall numbers or get hit as hard early.

You can pull your cherry picked stats all you want, but it doesn't change anything.
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It's not cherry picked data at all, I showed you the data for the US overall. And am giving you examples to refute the positions you're taking. This data stands in the aggregate, when looking at data from several nations. Do you want to see states with denser populations? How about California, it's density is 2.5x the national average.

There were big spikes in death in 2020 in some states. But they reflect another pattern seen around the world. Spikes in death that follow policy changes. And after vaccine rollout, we can see spikes that correspond to vaccine rollout as well.

I'm not saying it was all caused by the V, but social isolation, closing down schools, the fear mongering, and medical protocols such as witholding antibiotics, giving people deadly Remdesivir and putting them on ventilators. Most of the death was caused by the response to covid. Over and over, we don't see any signal in the ACM data until government policy kicks in.

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beast crnjo said:
It's not cherry picked data at all, I showed you the data for the US overall. And am giving you examples to refute the positions you're taking. This data stands in the aggregate, when looking at data from several nations. Do you want to see states with denser populations? How about California, it's density is 2.5x the national average.

There were big spikes in death in 2020 in some states. But they reflect another pattern seen around the world. Spikes in death that follow policy changes. And after vaccine rollout, we can see spikes that correspond to vaccine rollout as well.

I'm not saying it was all caused by the V, but social isolation, closing down schools, the fear mongering, and medical protocols such as witholding antibiotics, giving people deadly Remdesivir and putting them on ventilators. Most of the death was caused by the response to covid. Over and over, we don't see any signal in the ACM data until government policy kicks in.

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The vast majority of the restrictions took place in places that saw early signs of spikes in infection. Without a vaccine there was nothing we were going to do to avoid those spikes, but the policies kept the spikes from being far worse.

The spikes post vaccine were very clearly because restrictions and attitudes about covid relaxed. At no point were excess mortality rates among the vaccinated greater than the unvaccinated population. In fact, excess mortality rates among the vaccinated were far lower than among the unvaccinated. There was never a point that this wasn't the case.
 
beast crnjo said:
They do not. Not for viral anyway. Try wearing one on a cold day, and observe how we'll the mask catches your breath. There have actually been quite a few studies evaluating how effective they find no benefit. This was actually in the official CDC guidance on the matter.

Then they started to be used as part of the covid psyop, and became politicized. With lefties almost treating them like a religious talisman, and shreeking at people who dared to not wear one.

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Thats a lot of numbers and pics and highlighting……. but one thing I CAN tell you, I wasn’t sick ONCE in the 2 years we had to wear masks…..AND for the first time since I was a kid, I had no allergies…….Nothing! I don’t need graphs to tell me that the masks worked or didn’t.
 
THE HCP said:
Thats a lot of numbers and pics and highlighting……. but one thing I CAN tell you, I wasn’t sick ONCE in the 2 years we had to wear masks…..AND for the first time since I was a kid, I had no allergies…….Nothing! I don’t need graphs to tell me that the masks worked or didn’t.
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Well why did you stop wearing it then? Go ahead and wear a mask the rest of your life, just don't try and insist others participate in your delusion.
 
Surgeons, Nurses, Firefighters, Crowd control officers, Dentists, House Painters, Furniture makers, and on and on wear masks throughout their workday to protect their lungs from toxic elements or infections....SARS was wiped out by a nation who required citizens have temperatures taken before entering work or any public building and masks were required everywhere....I was in Taipei for the entire SARS epidemic....nobody fucking died from wearing a mask....I worked on paint crews and nobody died from wearing a fucking mask....I was hospitalized with heart issues and had several surgeries over COVID and nobody died from a mask or vaccine...we rank really poorly in the global response to COVID and millions died because of stubborness about things like wearing a fucking mask....and wearing a mask in public during COVID...I never got COVID....even in the hospital. I honestly don't care if people ignore the science but I do care if they distort it for political spin points. Vaccinations are required if you work overseeas or move home from overseas and want your kids to go to public school....always have been ..people have such selective memories about basic facts when they don'tsupport their narrative. People said stupid shit about penicillin when it was discovered too until it cured their syphillis. I'm proof vaccinations and masks can keep you safe from covid . Must be the right mask...not a cloth bandana. Try talking to doctors and nurses who worked all through the pandemic and you get a clear picture of the science....and of the over one million dead from covid...it was a vast majority of anti vaccine folk that died. Those mask wearing New Zealanders andTaiwanese had only single digit deaths as they took the pandemic seriously from day one...we had the red and blue year and a half long debate before curbing the spread...dumb fucking move on our part..our leader wanted to inject bleach....contrary to what someone said here, toddlers were never required to wear masks or recommended to wear them...they're just filters...I filter my drinking water as well...no big fucking deal.
 
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I worked in biopharma and wore mask in production area. In fact we were covered hard to foot. To protect ourselves and the product.
 
Hoopguru said:
Tested positive this morning. Been struggling with bad cough and low energy.
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I tested positive last night. Sucks to be us.

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AmirIcon said:
I know there was a report that Paxlovid was ineffective, but I took it when I got Covid and recovered in a week. Get well, folks.
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I don’t know of any reputable reports that said it was ineffective. It shortens the duration of the disease, but there’s a risk of relapse.
 
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