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e_blazer said:
We’re visiting the Big Island to celebrate our 50th anniversary. I came down with Covid two days after getting off the plane. Fortunately, it’s a pretty light case. The urgent care doctor didn’t recommend Paxlovid because my symptoms were so mild. Still, it’s messing up our vacation as far as what we can do. Pisses me off, but what are you going to do?
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Only one thing you can do. Admit you were wrong and start taking ivermectin today. And take it everyday for the rest of your life.
 
e_blazer said:
We’re visiting the Big Island to celebrate our 50th anniversary. I came down with Covid two days after getting off the plane. Fortunately, it’s a pretty light case. The urgent care doctor didn’t recommend Paxlovid because my symptoms were so mild. Still, it’s messing up our vacation as far as what we can do. Pisses me off, but what are you going to do?
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Oh man, that sucks. Glad it's a mild case. The good news is it's your 50th anniversary so the chance your wife is going to run off and have fun with someone who isn't sick is pretty remote.

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!
 
Fauci talking about how he's had covid 3 times while having the shot 6 times. Oh, there's also a clip o fhim telling people if they get the shot they won't get infected, which is something many revisionists deny took place.

The benefits of vaccination in general are highly over-stated, and the risks severely understated. And that's with traditional vaccines, let alone this novel treatment wherin packets of MRNA get dispersed to every organ in your body and transfect your cells.

Why are so few americans getting covid boosters? The flu shot is now more popular (and guess what, it doesn't work either).

 
Injecting a vaccine into your bloodstream for illnesses that enter through the respiratory system, and primarily inhabit that is silly from the start. Whatever memory your body has of the pathogen won't reside in the area it infiltrates and propagates. The covid-19 shot provides no mucosal immunity.

People have fallen for the mythology that vaccines protect them from disease. But it's not the vaccines, it's your own immune system, which is a highly complex system which depends on many health factors in order to be strong.

That's why so many died from infectious disease in the late 19th and early 20th century, it wasn't because of lack of vaccines, but because if ill-health of the population in general. But you rarely hear public health officials talk about improving underlying health, because their #1 goal seems to be to push phramceutical products.
 
Fact #1. No vaccine on the childhood schedule has every been tested against a true placebo
Fact #2. Many diseases which once killed/infected many, for which we have no vaccination, have fallen at the same rates, along a similar timeline, as those for which we do. Scarlet Fever for example.
Fact #3. Every disease for which we've implemented mass vaccination had already long been in steep decline before vaccine rollout.
Fact #4. Rates of auto-immune and chronic disease have skyrocketed, in line with increased vaccination rates. And it starts right after the increased schedule in 1988. Correlation <> causation, but shouldn't something that mucks with your immune system and contains neurologically toxic ingredients be a suspect, especially given that we have so many accounts of children becoming autistic right after vaccination? We are told this is impossible and it's bad to even raise the concern.
Fact #5. CDC whistle blower Dr. William Thompson participated in a study where he said the CDC did in fact find strong links between vaccination and autism, and it was covered up. No one in the media covered it.
 
beast crnjo said:
Fact #1. No vaccine on the childhood schedule has every been tested against a true placebo
Fact #2. Many diseases which once killed/infected many, for which we have no vaccination, have fallen at the same rates, along a similar timeline, as those for which we do. Scarlet Fever for example.
Fact #3. Every disease for which we've implemented mass vaccination had already long been in steep decline before vaccine rollout.
Fact #4. Rates of auto-immune and chronic disease have skyrocketed, in line with increased vaccination rates. And it starts right after the increased schedule in 1988. Correlation <> causation, but shouldn't something that mucks with your immune system and contains neurologically toxic ingredients be a suspect, especially given that we have so many accounts of children becoming autistic right after vaccination? We are told this is impossible and it's bad to even raise the concern.
Fact #5. CDC whistle blower Dr. William Thompson participated in a study where he said the CDC did in fact find strong links between vaccination and autism, and it was covered up. No one in the media covered it.
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Once again, we laugh at you with no medical background telling biologists, virologists, epidemiologists, and the general medical community that they are wrong based on your extensive research conducted in your Facebook group, 4chan, and twix feed.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Once again, we laugh at you with no medical background telling biologists, virologists, epidemiologists, and the general medical community that they are wrong based on your extensive research conducted in your Facebook group, 4chan, and twix feed.
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Isn't it a relief to know that in just a couple more weeks he'll be back in middle school.......?
 
Phatguysrule said:
Once again, we laugh at you with no medical background telling biologists, virologists, epidemiologists, and the general medical community that they are wrong based on your extensive research conducted in your Facebook group, 4chan, and twix feed.
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Facts are facts. A lot of people get specialized degrees but don't see the forest for the trees. And certain positions are verbotten until their not, then everyone acts like it's common sense (smoking, leaded gasoline)
 
The problem with conspiracy theorists is they try and make up for their lack of education by clinging to stuff that they feel is ‘cutting edge’ and people just aren’t quite as enlightened as them.

It’s trying to over compensate.

My good friend is like this ^beast guy. Except not racist.

He clings onto these wild conspiracy theories (usually after he smokes a blunt to himself) and it makes him feel like empowered, or something.

He dropped out of high school after his junior year and has worked menial jobs ever since.
 
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beast crnjo said:
Facts are facts. A lot of people get specialized degrees but don't see the forest for the trees. And certain positions are verbotten until their not, then everyone acts like it's common sense (smoking, leaded gasoline)
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Except that the data and facts show that these people are right. The vaccines saved tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of lives.

This has been verified by hospital death rates death rates of people who have been vaccinated versus those who have not, and excess mortality rates in areas with high vaccination rates compared to lower vaccination rates.

Your "facts" are just bullshit that isn't even worth verifying.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Except that the data and facts show that these people are right. The vaccines saved tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of lives.

This has been verified by hospital death rates death rates of people who have been vaccinated versus those who have not, and excess mortality rates in areas with high vaccination rates compared to lower vaccination rates.

Your "facts" are just bullshit that isn't even worth verifying.
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Those are talking points, not based on actual data. The county level data the CDC published correlates exactly with wealth. Healthy User Bias....look it up. The same dataset shows the vaccine was 70% effective at preventing car crashes.

But if the vaccine worked, we wouldn't have had more covid after it was rolled out. Use some common sense.
 
beast crnjo said:
Those are talking points, not based on actual data. The county level data the CDC published correlates exactly with wealth. Healthy User Bias....look it up. The same dataset shows the vaccine was 70% effective at preventing car crashes.

But if the vaccine worked, we wouldn't have had more covid after it was rolled out. Use some common sense.
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Your statement in bold indicates that you don’t understand, or aren’t willing to accept, what the purpose of the vaccines were. Nobody with any knowledge or credibility said that the purpose was to prevent infection, rather it was to give the immune system what it needed to fight back against the virus to reduce the odds of serious illness or death. The vaccines were spectacularly successful, saved millions of lives, and are allowing society to continue to function.
 
beast crnjo said:
Those are talking points, not based on actual data. The county level data the CDC published correlates exactly with wealth. Healthy User Bias....look it up. The same dataset shows the vaccine was 70% effective at preventing car crashes.

But if the vaccine worked, we wouldn't have had more covid after it was rolled out. Use some common sense.
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BS
 
e_blazer said:
Your statement in bold indicates that you don’t understand, or aren’t willing to accept, what the purpose of the vaccines were. Nobody with any knowledge or credibility said that the purpose was to prevent infection, rather it was to give the immune system what it needed to fight back against the virus to reduce the odds of serious illness or death. The vaccines were spectacularly successful, saved millions of lives, and are allowing society to continue to function.
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Lordy, I've debunked that so many times. I just posted a video of Fauci saying that. Also, both morbidity and mortality increased in almost every nation post vaccine rollout.
 
beast crnjo said:
Lordy, I've debunked that so many times. I just posted a video of Fauci saying that. Also, both morbidity and mortality increased in almost every nation post vaccine rollout.
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That video is clearly clipped to try to make it look like he made a false promise about the vaccines making you bulletproof. I am sure that the full version would say say something to the effect that if you’re vaccinated you either won’t get infected (for a six month period or so after vaccination) or that you won’t get seriously ill. That has been the consistent messaging since the beginning.

I don’t understand how or why minds of conspiracy theorists work the way they do. Always the hubris that they know better than the experts and they know that someone is trying to pull a fast one on them, but they are too smart to be caught in the trap like the “sheeple”. Go peddle your crap somewhere else. Not interested.
 
Im as pro vaccines as anyone in here, however, I do believe it came from the lab versus a market.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Asshole
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