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The beach towns are apparently overcrowded this evening with all the selfish people who still decided to go forward with spring break plans.

Again, people aren't taking this seriously. Until it's an order to stay home there will be a certain percentage that won't comply.
Even with the order they won't comply. It's not until deaths start climbing high that they'll get the message and by then it's too late.
This is going to get unbelievably worse with astounding death rates.
Too bad, many more people would be listening if it werent'f for all the assholes saying it's contained airtight or that it's only like the flu or a bad cold. Rush Limbaugh, who knows nothing about anything and would appear to have trouble tying his own shoes, says this virus is a type of cold. Wait 'till he gets this cold and needs a respirator.
 
How many times have you seen, read, or heard that Trump 'dissolved the Pandemic Response team'? Well, as expected, there is quite a different side to that story. Instead of someone just raving that it happened, someone who was actually there for what really happened. Again, this is not a Trump is all wrong or Trump is all right commentary. Just a search for more objective, informed truth than much of what is going around.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...zwiXnsJM0xiHnWxPYmFNz_Y-QynpBnqTYO7oQ_KmjCtNM
 
How many times have you seen, read, or heard that Trump 'dissolved the Pandemic Response team'? Well, as expected, there is quite a different side to that story. Instead of someone just raving that it happened, someone who was actually there for what really happened. Again, this is not a Trump is all wrong or Trump is all right commentary. Just a search for more objective, informed truth than much of what is going around.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...zwiXnsJM0xiHnWxPYmFNz_Y-QynpBnqTYO7oQ_KmjCtNM

How about giving us a brief synopsis? I don’t feel like paying for a subscription.
 
I am here to chew bubble gum and wipe some ass...and I'm all out of toilet paper.
 


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How about giving us a brief synopsis? I don’t feel like paying for a subscription.

I don't have a subscription and was able to read the whole article. Here are a couple of key paragraphs. It should be noted some of those 'bloated' individuals were in charge during the H1N1 outbreak. This is not to assign blame or get into a who's right, who's wrong. It's just a different perspective from someone who was there versus Facebook meme's and some newscaster blaming everything possible on the the current President.

"When I joined the National Security Council staff in 2018, I inherited a strong and skilled staff in the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate. This team of national experts together drafted the National Biodefense Strategy of 2018 and an accompanying national security presidential memorandum to implement it; an executive order to modernize influenza vaccines; and coordinated the United States’ response to the Ebola epidemic in Congo, which was ultimately defeated in 2020.

It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017."
 


Aspirin and ibuprofen have side effects and vitamin C can give you the shits!!!!

Seriously these fucking idiots need to quit nitpicking about every possible idea. They are looking dumber than the president.
 
Nobody's ever done what the Trump administration has done folks. It's just been tremendous. Extordenary!
 
Some people are upset at the fact businesses are open like Home Depot. It's kinda hard to believe that they will slow the Coronavirus with keeping businesses open like they are. All it takes is a few morons and a few people. And Trump keeps on with his 15 day shit. Even Grocery stores and Pharmacy's but I get it. Not everyone does the online thing and people need there prescriptions and food.
Hardware stores do a lot to help people though. For instance, were trying to get our house put together this weekend Ive been to a hardware store twice... I may have to go again, so we can finish it and move our kids back in. If someone has an home emergency being able to a hardware store to get supplies is necessary especially when were trying to stay inside.
 
I don't have a subscription and was able to read the whole article. Here are a couple of key paragraphs. It should be noted some of those 'bloated' individuals were in charge during the H1N1 outbreak. This is not to assign blame or get into a who's right, who's wrong. It's just a different perspective from someone who was there versus Facebook meme's and some newscaster blaming everything possible on the the current President.

"When I joined the National Security Council staff in 2018, I inherited a strong and skilled staff in the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate. This team of national experts together drafted the National Biodefense Strategy of 2018 and an accompanying national security presidential memorandum to implement it; an executive order to modernize influenza vaccines; and coordinated the United States’ response to the Ebola epidemic in Congo, which was ultimately defeated in 2020.

It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017."

Thanks! I think they limit the number of free articles you can see in a given month and I've exceeded my limit.
 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Still going by this site trying to check it daily at about the same time (Im an hour behind today)
The death rate in the US is down to 1.27%. The total recovered has Started to go up at a quicker pace in the US too. The trends look good. I know people will question those numbers and all the politics involved. I am simply just taking the numbers we have. Hope they continue to trend that way.
 
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Ok taking azithromycin an antibiotic is dangerous. It won't kill viruses. Wtf
 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Still going by this site trying to check it daily at about the same time (Im an hour behind today)
The death rate in the US is down to 1.27%. The total recovered has Started to go up at a quicker pace in the US too. The trends look good. I know people will question those numbers and all the politics involved. I am simply just taking the numbers we have. Hope they continue to trend that way.

In terms of total number infected... we really need to wait until we have readily available testing before we can say anything is going down. It's unfortunate...
 
In terms of total number infected... we really need to wait until we have readily available testing before we can say anything is going down. It's unfortunate...

They aren’t even testing in SoCal anymore as long as the person isn’t sick enough to require hospitalization. We’re never going to know the actual numbers for sure.
 
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Still going by this site trying to check it daily at about the same time (Im an hour behind today)
The death rate in the US is down to 1.27%. The total recovered has Started to go up at a quicker pace in the US too. The trends look good. I know people will question those numbers and all the politics involved. I am simply just taking the numbers we have. Hope they continue to trend that way.
Maybe you're right and people are getting the message. At the skate park today it was down to about 100 people there, granted this was around 10 this morning so the skater crowd might still have been in bed.

What was particularly awesome was the group of about 30 adults that were all sitting/standing together with no social distancing.
 
Here is an interesting approach Great Britain is taking from one writer's theory. Since they figure they can't stop it, basically let the large majority of the country get it, become immune, and move on while sheltering the olds and the immune compromised. 'Herd Immunity' is what they are calling it.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...XyZvgHCUwW5y28OTKGY8UhnFPhFTBHllrE1TmCoSDDd1k

This is old news - the UK has since figured out that that was a really stupid approach that would kill a lot of people and has reversed direction.

barfo
 
In terms of total number infected... we really need to wait until we have readily available testing before we can say anything is going down. It's unfortunate...
Yes, and no... Ive been going over the numbers everyday at least per that site and the trend does look good. Of course more data is better, but we have to use the number we have.
 
This is old news - the UK has since figured out that that was a really stupid approach that would kill a lot of people and has reversed direction.

barfo

My theory is a little different. I figure most people over the age of 30 will follow social distancing policies, while most of those under that age won’t. Send only those under 30 to Florida for the biggest beach party in history. Don’t allow them to come home until they have tested positive for COVID-19 and subsequently have had two clear tests. We’re also going to need a whole lot of antibiotics for the STDs, but that’s a lesser problem.
 
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1527-3223/azithromycin-oral/azithromycin-250-500-mg-oral/details
Azithromycin is used to treat a wide variety of bacterial infections. It is a macrolide-type antibiotic. It works by stopping the growth of bacteria.

This medication will not work for viral infections (such as common cold, flu). Unnecessary use or misuse of any antibiotic can lead to its decreased effectiveness.

It could very well work in conjunction with Chloroquine, but that french study had only 22 people (and only 10 who received the combo) and none of them were people with pre-existing cardiac conditions. Taking an antibiotic without prior validation of the is dangerous, especially for already vulnerable populations. I am in this industry, if it were that simple the FDA would have already approved this.
 
This is old news - the UK has since figured out that that was a really stupid approach that would kill a lot of people and has reversed direction.

barfo
It's not even novel. It's what happened before modern medicine and before people knew what spread diseases (bubonic plague was blamed on Jews, guess no Chinese in Europe). Of course a lot of people died in the process. Successive waves of plague killed off about a third of Europe's population; no one knows how many died of smallpox. And to date untreated HIV is very close to 100% lethal. Yeah, very stupid idea.
 
The plan proposed by Moscow Mitch gives $1200 to people with certain incomes (from 2018, not now) one time. But people could be out of work for months. No provision for those who lose health insurance when they lose their job. People with incomes under $40K per year will get from nothing to $600. Small businesses get loans; big corporations get bailouts. So my local bicycle store and ice cream parlor get a loan they have to pay back while United Airlines and MacDonald's are handed billions in taxpayer money with no conditions. Lobbyists are lining up for a piece of the pie. May add hotel bailout, including Trump hotels. Not yet certain. So very typically middle class gets pittance, poor get shit, and big companies get giant handouts.
 

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