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America is the first country in the world with more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths in a day as fears grow that Detroit will be next epicenter after Michigan deaths double in three days
  • The US death toll from coronavirus surged past 5,000 on Wednesday and confirmed cases past 216,000
  • It marked an increase of 1,047 which is the single highest reported increase of anywhere in the world
  • Italy's worst day was on March 26 when deaths rose by 969; it has since leveled off
  • China's figures are less clear - there are claims the government has hidden the true total of deaths and cases
  • There are worrying signs that Detroit will become the next epicenter in the US as death rates there soar
  • Deaths in Michigan have doubled in three days which is what happened to New York in its early stages
  • New York state continues to bear the brunt of the US crisis, with its death toll rising to 2,219
  • Connecticut recorded the youngest victim worldwide after a six-week-old baby died from coronavirus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...untry-world-1-000-coronavirus-deaths-day.html
 
I'm wearing a mask everywhere that's not home as of today.

Step outside your door without a face mask in Hong Kong, Seoul or Tokyo these days, and you may well get a disapproving look.

Since the start of the coronavirus outbreak some places have fully embraced wearing face masks, and anyone caught without one risks becoming a social pariah.

In other places - the Czech Republic and Slovakia - it's now compulsory.

But in many other parts of the world, from the UK and the US to Sydney and Singapore, it's still perfectly acceptable to walk around bare-faced.

Why some countries embrace masks while others shun them is not just about government directives and medical advice - it's also about culture and history. But as this pandemic worsens, will this change?
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Hoopguru said:
More of a rescue plan than a stimulus plan. This plan will not stimulate the economy the only thing that will is once the virus fades, its gentleman start your engines!
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Its the biggest money grab in quite some time and its accessible to us commoners for once. Work the system, yo.
 
Why would cutting oil be good for the rest of us? Pardon my ignorance.
 
wizenheimer said:
lives of American doctors, nurses, and health-workers will have been sacrificed on the alter of free-market capitalism:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidd...yers-and-this-is-what-i-learned/#7894117a56d4
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They have been sacrificed by years and years of inefficient management, red tape, inadequate supplies and a lack of modernization.

My fiancee was again exposed to a patient who tested positive for COVID several weeks ago. She got an email from the surgeon last Friday who copied everyone else in the room saying they are under the assumption that the patient contracted COVID after the surgery. No further tests or quarantines were indicated at that time. Nothing from the Health System, nothing from admin, it was just the doctor giving a "heads up".

Hospital admins are throwing these workers under the bus. Its so disorganized on an institutional basis. Many departments are "winging" it.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
They have been sacrificed by years and years of inefficient management, red tape, inadequate supplies and a lack of modernization.
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pure deflection....which of course is another word for bullshit

they haven't lacked PPE with potentially fatal consequences before. This is a crisis without modern precedent. It is a national emergency and has even been declared as such. That declaration allows export restrictions & prohibitions on critical supplies. Those exports should be blocked; there are no moral or practical reasons not to

did you actually read the article? All we've heard about is the critical need around the country for N95 masks. The author of that article witnessed 280 million N95 masks being earmarked for export....on a single day. There is no fucking excuse for that...NONE

so then, while the federal government is irresponsibly allowing that to happen, it's busy outbidding New York and Michigan for PPE, then turning around and shipping that PPE to Florida and Oklahoma. MASAAA - Make America Stupid Again & Again & Again
 
wizenheimer said:
pure deflection....which of course is another word for bullshit

they haven't lacked PPE with potentially fatal consequences before. This is a crisis without modern precedent. It is a national emergency and has even been declared as such. That declaration allows export restrictions & prohibitions on critical supplies. Those exports should be blocked; there are no moral or practical reasons not to

did you actually read the article? All we've heard about is the critical need around the country for N95 masks. The author of that article witnessed 280 million N95 masks being earmarked for export....on a single day. There is no fucking excuse for that...NONE

so then, while the federal government is irresponsibly allowing that to happen, it's busy outbidding New York and Michigan for PPE, then turning around and shipping that PPE to Florida and Oklahoma. MASAAA - Make America Stupid Again & Again & Again
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You think the US Healthcare system is a model of efficiency? Have you been to urgent care or an ER in the past? They fucking suck.

Have you dealt with Hospital Administration? I have, many times. Layers and layers of bullshit. Shit is run by people who's job it is to run it as slow as possible.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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LOL...typical Trump bullshit trying to refocus attention from republican senators who definitely traded on inside information

maybe this D did something slimy...maybe she didn't, but there are some factors that make this a piss-poor example of both-sides-do-it

to start with, it may not have been $50,000 in stock like trump said; the article said between 15K and 50K, which is the range of 1/30th to 1/50th of what the GOP senators did, or less. Second, there's no confirmation yet that she attended the briefing. It's probably safe to assume she did, but it's not certain yet

finally, there's the nature of the sale itself. She sold shares in Disney and converted the proceeds to shares of Target. That doesn't exactly reek of an insider move. Since she bought the shares of Target, they have dropped 20% in value
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
You think the US Healthcare system is a model of efficiency? Have you been to urgent care or an ER in the past? They fucking suck.

Have you dealt with Hospital Administration? I have, many times. Layers and layers of bullshit. Shit is run by people who's job it is to run it as slow as possible.
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again...you're just deflecting and trying to change the subject.

I'm not interested in engaging in a debate about the normal efficiency of the US health care system. It's certainly inefficient. In this country we are paying cadillac prices while driving a moped. But the biggest reasons for that is how fragmented it it while being far too heavily influenced by market forces and profit motives. But that's another debate I don't give much of a shit about right now

I'm talking specifically about the fact that in the middle of an extreme crisis of PPE supplies for health care workers, massive amounts of needed inventory are being shipped overseas when we have easy mechanisms to stop that drain
 
wizenheimer said:
LOL...typical Trump bullshit trying to refocus attention from republican senators who definitely traded on inside information

maybe this D did something slimy...maybe she didn't, but there are some factors that make this a piss-poor example of both-sides-do-it

to start with, it may not have been $50,000 in stock like trump said; the article said between 15K and 50K, which is the range of 1/30th to 1/50th of what the GOP senators did, or less. Second, there's no confirmation yet that she attended the briefing. It's probably safe to assume she did, but it's not certain yet

finally, there's the nature of the sale itself. She sold shares in Disney and converted the proceeds to shares of Target. That doesn't exactly reek of an insider move. Since she bought the shares of Target, they have dropped 20% in value
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There were other other D politicians involved besides this crooked wench you’re defending here. You’re literally taking the legitimate argument of “both sides do it”, which is absolutely true, and trying to turn it on it’s head by splitting hairs and using semantics.

Wouldn’t it just be easier to admit that you don't care/disregard when Democrats do corrupt shit because those examples hurt your one-sided narrative?
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Its the biggest money grab in quite some time and its accessible to us commoners for once. Work the system, yo.
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Wherever there are politicians and regardless what's going on, there is an effort to money grab in one why shape or form.
We as a Nation (tax payers) has given more over the years to help nations and humanity efforts. Plus we waste so much of tax payers dollars on justifying government positions/existence, if the American people need to skim dome off the top for their rescue efforts, we've earned it.
 
jonnyboy said:
legitimate argument of “both sides do it”,
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both sides is an excuse, not an argument, and certainly not a 'legitimate argument'.

Whoever engages in insider trading needs to be strung up regardless of party, gender, race, creed, or national origin.

The two sides here are those that are criminal vs. those that aren't.

barfo
 
jonnyboy said:
There were other other D politicians involved besides this crooked wench you’re defending here. You’re literally taking the legitimate argument of “both sides do it”, which is absolutely true, and trying to turn it on it’s head by splitting hairs and using semantics.

Wouldn’t it just be easier to admit that you don't care/disregard when Democrats do corrupt shit because those examples hurt your one-sided narrative?
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piss off with your straw men and condescension. LOL at calling her a "crooked wench".

what is it I said that isn't true? How is one stock transfer of less than $50,000 dollars, maybe much less, the equivalent of the multiple transactions of of 1.5-4 million dollars. How is a small switch from Disney to Target the same as selling hundreds of thousand dollars of hotel stocks and going into stocks of companies that make medical supplies or act as conduits for online work environments?

again, look at the actual transaction and what you are trying to imply: she gets a briefing on Corona virus. Her reaction is to sell Disney and buy Target? That's the evidence of corruption? How often does she sell and buy stocks...do you know?

here is the report she filed:

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does that really look fishy?
 
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The Georgia governor just found out in the last 24 hours that people not exhibiting symptoms can spread the virus... How is it even possible not to have heard that until know? For anyone, let alone a Governor.
 
Hamptons rental homes soar from $5,000 a month to $30,000 as NYC's richest flee the city and flock to the wealthy enclave, almost doubling the town's numbers, and sending coronavirus cases spiraling to over 7,000
  • Small coastal towns across the Eastern seaboard are seeing a spike in COVID-19 cases following the exodus of NYC's wealthy and elite from the Big Apple in a bid to escape the coronavirus
  • Suffolk County, home to the Hamptons, is seeing the biggest outbreak with 7,605 cases reported as of Wednesday - a 892 jump from the day prior
  • Newport, Rhode Island cases jumped from eight to 31, Martha's Vineyard cases sit at nine COVID-19 patients
  • Southampton's population has risen from 60,000 to 100,000 people in a matter of a few weeks
  • In the Hamptons the prices of rentals jumped from $5K a month to $30K for 2 weeks
  • Bespoke Real Estate in the Hamptons says rentals are up 20 percent higher this year than last year
  • In Hudson Valley, homes that typically go for $4,000 a month are now going for up to $18,000 for April
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...bles-rental-prices-soar-cases-peak-7-000.html
 
noknobs said:
The Georgia governor just found out in the last 24 hours that people not exhibiting symptoms can spread the virus... How is it even possible not to have heard that until know? For anyone, let alone a Governor.
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When you're deep in the bubble...
 
wizenheimer said:
piss off with your straw men and condescension. LOL at calling her a "crooked wench".

what is it I said that isn't true? How is one stock transfer of less than $50,000 dollars, maybe much less, the equivalent of the multiple transactions of of 1.5-4 million dollars. How is a small switch from Disney to Target the same as selling hundreds of thousand dollars of hotel stocks and going into stocks of companies that make medical supplies or act as conduits for online work environments?

again, look at the actual transaction and what you are trying to imply: she gets a briefing on Corona virus. Her reaction is to sell Disney and buy Target? That's the evidence of corruption? How often does she sell and buy stocks...do you know?

here is the report she filed:

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does that really look fishy?
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Ok have it your way, we’ll assume the tens of thousands of dollars she traded directly after that coronavirus briefing had nothing to do with the knowledge she JUST received. Although it would be interesting to see her prior trades to see how often she trades in amounts that large, you know, for context.

But, I said in the first sentence of my post that there were other Democrats involved in questionable trading after the briefings besides her. Any comment on them?
 
MickZagger said:
im a rich liberal from San Francisco. I’d like to develop a subdivision in the Bend area. Do you have anyone in mind who can make this possible?
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:hello: Me! Me! Me!

Land use planning consultant and subdivision designer at your service. Happy to help you spend your money, er, help you get approval for your development.
 
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